"porn addiction isn't real" finally has scientific proof in a meta study because it finds the root cause - religious upbringing. And this was conducted by people who *went in thinking the addiction was real*! https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too
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This bit here, has value FAR BEYOND the topic of the article.
He was partially-correct; turns out all that practice actually meant fuck all in the end. 😂
Worth a follow.
he seems to be preoccupied w/ topics of a sexual nature, or just ask his family to comment!
Get well soon, my brothers in christ.
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Maybe all of religion is self-fulfilling prophecy?
Our dictionary and language is very odd imo. very hard issue
I think the oxford people should do something about it
alcoholics anon, and narcotics anon are essentially the same thing, with cultural difference
odd
What am I in a company or business or trade or jobsite?
a "1st mate" "right hand man"
I'm a direct support of the lead person usually.
that is my natural spot when I work in professional world,, but in private I am a follower.
now what?
partnership makes both individuals better
yet, there is push and pull, and male and female instincts that cover the entire living experience.
oxford bitches where you at?
any help on this bitch?
I think cognitive neuroscience will produce more data on the experiential side, and until then we just have pencil necks fighting over what gets funded, and jailers talking about wars on drugs. 🤠
my b that my head went to the dictionary first. but the way these stupid idiots decide on funding is just so dystopically capitalistic, focussing on "publishing" things as much as possible, fuck oxford and similar organisations.
but yeah from the street side of walking over dead bodies wondering about addiction, funding is a bit wild rn imo
Church tells girls, don't have sex. Church tells boys, don't masturbate and you're not a man until you penetrate a vagina.
A lack of sex and marriage has been blamed on internet addiction. Is it a illness, or young people choosing loneliness?
I used to constantly feel "loser shame" over porn and jerking it as a single dude and then got married and despite still jerking it the shame vanished
Ironically some fetishes/kinks have a certain personality types.
Because it feels good, why do people drink? Because it feels good, it's not complicated.
Humans aren't that complex.
I should have had a better comparison.
Dependency maybe...bad habit maybe......but "addiction" is chemical...you're not getting that without some kind of actual legitimate chemical dependency.
Based
And b, iirc society is less violent than we've ever been as internet porn ramped up, so I would like to see proof
I don't think religion could be the primary cause, I think just a repressive upbringing in general?
I'm not sure. The article was an interesting read tho!
Different religions at different times valued sex differently so I wonder how that'd change.
Basically it was a right to get each other to bond. Some was pedastry.. different times
1800s cowboys in the wild Wild West. Christianity was null and it was all men. Where law and order was at the discretion of men and their lovers. Batman for sure
Also native cultures and ofc Ancient Rome. All these examples were before Christianity and the 1946 rewrite. Go figure
not to mention the fact that I was worsening my health overtime by masterbating so often,
the definition is that you are addicted to the feeling of watching and masterbating to porn.
Addiction is shit like "I need my nicotine and once it leaves my body I wanna die" that's addiction.
Like the whole, "Dang that's depressing" versus, "I am depressed" thing.
Like running out of lube?
I was surprised that I had to explain *to the therapist* how the religious guilt makes people feel bad and they go right back to the porn to make themselves feel better.
The guilt is the problem!
therapy gives me such "were soo back" energy and makes me legit hapy :3
signs of a dying cult if you tell me
Hald, G. M., Malamuth, N. M., & Yuen, C. (2010)
To name a couple. Overwhelming evidence of Study’s show no real correlation to addiction. It lowers crime of sexual violence in fact. It’s rooted in shame and guilt from religious people.
The study is probably legit, but I'd seek it out separately and deny PT the click. 🖕😡
The few studies done on the link between porn availability and sexual violence show it goes down when porn is more available in society
Stop making porn? No I don’t really care nor do I see it as a moral failing
As for sources this was over a decade ago during an anti porn debate I had and I could be using outdated data I’m just spitballing from what I recall
Dopamine addiction also isn't real.
No matter how overstimulating porn might be it’s still just your own supply of dopamine. Maybe similar to gambling addiction?
Even if AI were reliable (which is not), this specific subject would not be.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/794743
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/794743
But I know what you mean.
I really wish this study could help me, but I feel like a hopeless goober sometimes...
In the other hand, i was exposed to it from a very young age, and i could argue about this from my own personal experience dealing with this problem
But I know that if I so much as mention it I'll get bombarded with berating, saying this is my bias, that -
I wish I could make them shut up about porn addiction
There are plenty of atheists with porn addiction, I know one IRL and read some recounts online
It can affect anyone
Also, I don't know how this would disprove it either way?
It is not the same as addiction.
A religious upbringing that teaches you shame will make you hate your body and it's an easy common cause for this
I agree.
But does that disprove the addiction aspect?
You can be an alcoholic because of religious shame. You can be a drug addict because of religious shame. Or any kinda shame.
Religious part won't invalidate the addictive part; Doesn't need to.
Just gives a clue as to where it started
but we've seen people who cannot get aroused without it, and we've seen people who don't even use it for arousal, but some kind of mental stimulation
Hiding it from your loved ones? ✅
Gaslighting yourself into thinking you can quit anytime? ✅
Spending exuberant amounts of money on it? ✅
Mental/emotional dependency on it? ✅
Using it as a coping mechanism? ✅
How are they NOT an addiction?
That still doesn't disprove the addiction aspect. I personally see it as an addiction, given how pornography effects the brain
Just that there are caveats
And that whether it is religious or not doesn't prove or disprove the addiction aspect
It's like saying apples don't exist because apple seeds create apples
If anything, it adds more weight/data to the concept
Feels as though a leading factor is taken into account, shame, and they find people who's ideologies align with that factor
It would make way more sense to have framed this study around this idea:
"religious people tend to feel more shame related to sexuality, leading to feelings that exacerbate porn use, and thus potential signs of porn addiction"
Don't think this invalidates them in general, but it doesn't hold my confidence
I will say that is probably a good drug.
Perhaps a drug you feel really bad about using but only if you are Democrat.
Because that is how porn is addicting these people… which is to say it’s not an addiction at all.
The problem isn't these activities, but other mental health factors like clinical depression.
You’re welcome.
Glad I can go back to my original diagnosis: a combo of ADHD, depression, and liking pretty girls with no clothes on.
I used to think I was addicted to porn but I thought as guy was cute. Not a naked guy either.
Had a spat with a Catholic anime avatar YouTuber and he couldn't refute my counter-rebuttals~
Damn I wonder if those two things are related, probably not. How could demonizing normal human functioning be traumatic?
See also, prison raoe
Needless to say, he's got quite the agenda to prove, and this article isn’t any more compelling.
Take Richard Dawkins as an example.
Meaning, more so, that sex addiction currently covers two discrete concepts: sex addiction and compulsive behavior due to "moral incongruence".
Also calling out my own bias to consider sex addiction and porn addiction interchangable despite the study not seeming to do so. But eh
Thanks for the explanation, as a non-American I was missing context there ^^
It seems like a scam to me
Sure there can also be religious dipshits, because of course there can be.
Does in no way disprove porn addiction.
Like any addiction it's rooted in unfulfilled needs - created by religious brainwashing or not.
Sure, could also be done with cocaine, but in this case it's orgasms. Which just so happen to coincide with porn.
Tldr you are just putting emphasis on the "addiction" in porn addiction.
Clearly moving pictures of humans are not it.