California Gov. Gavin Newsom debuted his new podcast with far-right guest Charlie Kirk. Newsom used the conversation to throw trans people under the bus.. it was emblematic of the current wave of rightward pandering @theintercept.com theintercept.com/2025/03/07/g... - ThreadSky

natashalennard.bsky.social • 2 days ago

California Gov. Gavin Newsom debuted his new podcast with far-right guest Charlie Kirk. Newsom used the conversation to throw trans people under the bus.. it was emblematic of the current wave of rightward pandering @theintercept.com https://theintercept.com/2025/03/07/gavin-newsom-trans-democrats/

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waldopolitics.bsky.social•1 day ago

Oh cool. Not voting for him in the primaries I guess.

mitchtenzer.bsky.social•2 days ago

Such bullshit. He is not remotely abandoning trans rights. If having biological males compete in female athletics is your hill to die on good fucking luck.

bluedymoos.bsky.social•2 days ago

Oh look. A man who suddenly cares about women's sports when trans people come up and not at any other moment of his life.

jjgittes.bsky.social•2 days ago

He’s dead to me (politically).

nukeddude.bsky.social•2 days ago

Fuck you Mr. Newsom.

palumboliu.bsky.social•2 days ago

What in the world is happening?? This strategy of liberals moving to the right-center has never worked well in the long run. It just increases the oligarchy and hurts everyone else. From Clinton to today.

pataz1.bsky.social•2 days ago

The Democratic Party exists solely to temper progressive sentiment

smudgewise.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’ve seen more spine in jelly fish

fullbrokensandwich.bsky.social•2 days ago

The trans comments are abhorrent, but can we focus on the fact that Newsom decided to platform a white nationalist? He's joining the fascists. He's made his choice here.

terminalsanity.bsky.social•2 days ago

If Gavin wants make a run at POTUS he do better to shore up the CA UC & Public Education system in face of the impending illegal cuts & actually address the CA Housing crisis.

You know show that he'd be a good POTUS by being a good Governor.🙄

natashalennard.bsky.social•2 days ago

Unwilling to jettison big donors by offering an economic agenda for the working class, Democrats are choosing instead to run a nasty race to the bottom, and treating trans people, immigrants, and other vulnerable minorities as disposable. @theintercept.com https://theintercept.com/2025/03/07/gavin-newsom-trans-democrats/

traceymoore33.bsky.social•2 days ago

I expect better from @theintercept.com
This is very clickbaity
It does not represent the substance of the podcast
You can and should do better

mikevago.bsky.social•2 days ago

Can we please not equate colossal dipshit Gavin Newsom with Here’s What The Democrats Believe? Senate Dems just voted in lockstep to block an odious anti-trans bill. It’s counterproductive to tar the whole party with the same brush.

lavendersalve.bsky.social•2 days ago

Except he literally is that

midnite-in-america.bsky.social•2 days ago

He does represent a significant group of democratic voters who have moved to the middle or beyond. The pandering to this regime cannot be overstated. Capitulations & negotiations don't count for shit when it comes to civil rights. His podcast serves no other purpose than to pitch a moderate platform

absolutereality.blog•2 days ago

We shouldn't go easy on them because they responded to pushback on one bill. They also just ran a whole presidential campaign where they tried to pretend trans people didn't exist, which allowed Trump to set the national parameters for the conversation.

absolutereality.blog•2 days ago

If Gavin Newsom believes capitulating on trans rights will position him well for a 2028 run, he's not getting that idea from nowhere. He has consultants and strategists and fellow politicians giving him advice, so his choices reflect at least some strain of thought in the party.

mikevago.bsky.social•2 days ago

Ah yes, Democratic consultants, who have famously never been out of touch with the electorate.

The point is, neither Newsom nor his consultants represent the party as a whole, and This Is What The Democrats Believe is one way the right/the media constantly undermine them. We shouldn’t be helping.

absolutereality.blog•2 days ago

My point wasn't that they're in touch with the electorate. My point is consultants are insular and don't know the electorate, but they strongly influence Democratic elected officials, which is what people mean when they say What Democrats Believe.

absolutereality.blog•2 days ago

I added a few small suspicious accounts from the replies here to my mod list.

yoqueray.bsky.social•2 days ago

He's toast. Kamala will be governor of California.

uncrossem.bsky.social•2 days ago

Let’s just call it what it is: bootlicking

orvaloriginal.bsky.social•2 days ago

I respectfully. I’m in the “pro-trans in everything but sports” group.

m00nstreake.bsky.social•2 days ago

Same. Everything but sports for anyone who went through male puberty. It's not great for trans people but only fair for natal women.

lavendersalve.bsky.social•2 days ago

“Natal women” go fuck yourself

m00nstreake.bsky.social•2 days ago

What term would you prefer?

lavendersalve.bsky.social•2 days ago

By saying “natal” instead of cis like everyone else, you’re basically inferring that trans women aren’t “real” women by virtue of being born with the “wrong genitals”

But you knew that already

m00nstreake.bsky.social•2 days ago

I'm under no illusions. It's a bitter reality.

noraham.bsky.social•2 days ago

It has already been used to target and punish cis athletes who were deemed not feminine enough, so unfair to all women, trans and cis alike

bluedymoos.bsky.social•2 days ago

Bullshit.

If you actually knew anything about trans athletes you wouldn't be sharing this nonsense.

mollsmonos.bsky.social•2 days ago

Then you're not "pro-trans"

bluedymoos.bsky.social•2 days ago

Then you've got work to do on yourself as a person.

Not sure why you felt to share that shortcoming here.

cantaffordeggs.bsky.social•2 days ago

I don’t think he threw Trans under the bus. He seemed to be trying to note that for women playing sports it may be an issue of fairness to THEM. His point is that Trump doesn’t care about that but he weaponized it. We can protect Trans rights but try and understand the concern about fairness.

nope-notnow.bsky.social•2 days ago

We understand the 'fairness' concern trolling. It's a manufactured outrage created as cover to attack trans people. Trans women have been competing in pro sports under scientifically informed guidelines for 50 years. The victims of these laws are school kids, including transvestigated cis girls.

nope-notnow.bsky.social•2 days ago

1. Trans participation in sports
2. Gender affirming care for minors
3. Medically necessary care for trans prisoners

Sorry but pandering to the right's favorite anti-trans talking points while platforming a white nationalist is throwing trans people under the bus.

cantaffordeggs.bsky.social•2 days ago

The right weaponized it. There is nothing I would say to pander to the right! I have trans friends. I respect their right to identify their gender. I also think future success of Democratic Party hinges on its ability to LISTEN. Young women in sports have expressed Fairness concerns-let’s Listen

nope-notnow.bsky.social•2 days ago

What the fuck is with all these "I support trans people but will also regurgitate astroturfed anti-trans propoganda" trolls? If you're uncritically swallowing the "men in women's sports" talking points - no, trans people cannot trust you.

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