If the legitimate press just permanently stopped attending these events and were replaced by propaganda outlets, that would be both optically clarifying and improve actual journalism. - ThreadSky

normative.bsky.social • 8 days ago

If the legitimate press just permanently stopped attending these events and were replaced by propaganda outlets, that would be both optically clarifying and improve actual journalism.

Reposted from Brian Stelter

Consider the possibility that the Trump White House WANTS this fight. Wants journalists to act like opponents instead of observers. If the entire press pool skipped a Trump photo op in solidarity with The AP, wouldn't the White House welcome Breitbart and One America News to take their places?

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nlch270.bsky.social•8 days ago

Think about a shadow press core and maybe they’ll think of a shadow government what do you think?

marthawoodcock.bsky.social•8 days ago

Mainstream outlets have completely no self-awareness. By going to Trump’s Oval Offce PR events, they’re doing the exact same job as the right wing propaganda outlets.

cyndicate.bsky.social•8 days ago

They're gutless.

ralphhhenson.bsky.social•8 days ago

In fairness, the outlets that 'lean' right (Fox, NYP, etc.)are indeed legitimate to the extent that they are outlets with large followings/subscriber bases.

Nothing Trump would love more that a room full of these folks asking the 'right' questions.

freestatefemale.bsky.social•8 days ago

Just report, there is not point in being lied to because that is all the access is.

jmalyon.bsky.social•8 days ago

I agree. Trump LOVES the lying and the attacks on the press. Stop covering the self-adulation and ramblings of the most dysfunctional man on the planet as if anything about this is normal or legitimate.

mtlb.bsky.social•8 days ago

Not worried about OA taking the place of AP. Let them. AP gains nothing by going to these daily briefings that we already haven’t seen in his first admin.

iquanyin3.bsky.social•8 days ago

it would be awesome if they instead started focusing on reporting and *explaining for the general oublic* exactly what’s going on, day by day, and features on what specific communities are losing, etc.

sunv0lt.bsky.social•8 days ago

You either have a moral red line or you don’t. 3D chess is irrelevant. Principles matter

billytodd.bsky.social•8 days ago

But then they won’t have ~access ~

justang31.bsky.social•7 days ago

Agree. The problem is we give more air time to the false statements than we do to the responses to the false statements

brooklynkid53bskys.bsky.social•8 days ago

young reporter to I F "Izzy" Stone: how did you get so many great scoops ?

Stone: being deaf, I couldn't attend the briefing (no ASL translators back then) so I had to read the report

jwolfiedog.bsky.social•8 days ago

All legitimate mainstream media should stand with the AP and continue calling it the Gulf of Mexico. Now is the time for solidarity against the despot and his minions.

edmallinak.bsky.social•8 days ago

It would also drive Trump crazy to be repeatedly ignored by the journos he loves to hate.

johntruth68.bsky.social•8 days ago

What is that ? Propaganda, Billionaire owned global media. Green devil asteroid, sprays extsy and viagra on planet. enjoy Valentines, buy Trump Vryto , we did it for you…

brian4nu.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m not seeing a downside here.

williamgold555.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yes, and maybe start spending air time showing how his policies will work out for people in real terms rather than letting him censor and dictate the narrative. Clearly he is already banning the word “inflation.” These are not news conferences; they are performances and propaganda. People need truth

jvsylvester.bsky.social•8 days ago

Along with TASS.

paco-button.bsky.social•8 days ago

They need to view the federal government as a hostile, untrustworthy entity. Like a foreign govt or a corporate pr team. They are actively trying to mislead you so why pretend otherwise?

phatosas.bsky.social•8 days ago

Exactly. They need the mainstream media to give the press briefing to have an air of legitimacy.

piattodelgatto.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yeah these WHCA reporters aren't even getting the good political stories anymore. It's all just sanewashed gaslighting.

tubbles.bsky.social•8 days ago

All the mainstream media ceasing going to these circus events would be a VERY good thing, especially if they all took a unified stance and called out the suppression President Musk and Puppet Trump was doing. People would actually realize that we're in the middle of a coup instead of the media

tubbles.bsky.social•8 days ago

being all business as usual.

am-mccarthy.bsky.social•8 days ago

Probably about as effective as "If Republicans could find a spine"

metrochimp.bsky.social•8 days ago

Those pseudo-events rarely have any actual news value compared to what's happening elsewhere. Oh, Trump rambled about some nonsense. What's actually going on in DC? Can't be arsed to figure out, gotta transcribe and translate Trump's bullshit.

chickpea7.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yes. I don't need to hear journalists ask a bunch of dumb questions and transcribe/broadcast/air a bunch of lies. Waste of time better spent pursuing actual stories.

ngobody.bsky.social•8 days ago

I've always said that the Trump White House needs these press conferences far more than the media does. It's theater, the WH is performing, and they need an audience. If the audience doesn't show up, the performers are the ones who would be wounded.

groschopf.bsky.social•8 days ago

Exactly. By attending those press conferences, they only legitimize the bullshit bring spewed.

Worse, they reflexively cave on preferred nomenclature.

Today, the outlets regarding agree to say “Gulf of America” to maintain access.

Tomorrow, it’ll be “Red White and Blueland” instead of Greenland.

crissakentavr.bsky.social•8 days ago

Or whatever bigoted thing they want, see also the list of words we're not allowed to use in science.

groschopf.bsky.social•7 days ago

Great point, Crissa. Easy to imagine "climate" throwing up a flag, yet having nothing to do with "climate change."

Spot on about the bigotry:

"the acronym LGBTQ+ has been shortened to LGB"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglywwn29n6o

[you likely already know about this news item—sharing for the broader public]

groschopf.bsky.social•7 days ago

Over on the disaster management side of things, I can already see that words like "equity" have resulted in FEMA's 2022-2026 Strategic Plan disappearing.

https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/documents/fema_2022-2026-strategic-plan.pdf

crissakentavr.bsky.social•7 days ago

Not that I needed more things to be angry about!

ratingbook.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yes, please. Just air Fox News Alerts on all channels.
Very smart. Yes.
You must make a lot of money with these ideas.

charlesgaba.com•8 days ago

bornonagreenlight.bsky.social•8 days ago

The internet is forever.

truth-sandwich.com•8 days ago

Sanewashing.

coffinprick.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sad thing is, Trump is the best thing that’s happened for any of them in years. He provides them with too much fodder. They’d likely never choose what’s right over keeping him in their orbit to maintain circulation. Total cowardice.

howardsbend.bsky.social•8 days ago

Resist!!

https://howardsbend.com

expatgirl.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yes, thank you!

vegasbrad.bsky.social•8 days ago

No no. That makes too much sense. This is about feelings for these fools.

pjelliffe.bsky.social•8 days ago

For the OP, what is “actual journalism” to you?

bskylife.bsky.social•8 days ago

It sure as shit isn’t tossing Trump easy questions and then standing by while he belches out nonsense.

itshard.bsky.social•8 days ago

The only reason I remember Brian Stelter’s name is because he’s so resoundingly stupid that it’s notable. I never followed him, I never saw him on TV, but every time I saw a Twitter post of his it was legitimately the stupidest thing I’d read that day. One of god’s dumbest angels.

jellyfrog23.bsky.social•8 days ago

YES. I don't understand the point of going there every day to listen to lies and ask questions as though they're going to be answered. She's not a real press secretary, it's not a real briefing, it's not going to produce real news, it's a waste of time.

iancaton.bsky.social•8 days ago

Journalist should swear an oath of loyalty before being allowed into the press room ✋

teddybuns.bsky.social•8 days ago

It would show that you care.

youlikeraisins.bsky.social•8 days ago

This is so obvious but the media is willfully refusing to understand, to paraphrase Sinclair. The media weakens trump’s power by refusing to be used by him.

infinitelyloopy.bsky.social•8 days ago

Trump would have a narcissistic melt down.

Why they aren’t standing w/AP is just incredibly short sighted.

karhey.bsky.social•8 days ago

Trump wants to trigger people. Not his cult. He would hate it if only his cult following so-called media was in the room. HOW ABOUT IF THE REAL MEDIA STANDS UP. This won't be the last time he tests your allegiance. How far will you go?

holgate.permanent.red•8 days ago

“I get to stand in a room” is considered the ultimate prize in American political journalism and this is a problem.

aaronblackshear.bsky.social•8 days ago

A bunch of Tracy Flick strivers without a single principle or ounce of spine

conjurial.bsky.social•8 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:qwo2qok6e3hhcwmdjkm3psxv/post/3li5trc4hck2w

jremixed.bsky.social•8 days ago

Perfect comparison.

johnwbuaas.bsky.social•8 days ago

As (still) that guy from Queens who so desperately craves legitimacy, Trump knows conservative media are his conduit to his base . . . but he also knows that they don't have the legitimacy among the People Who Matter that legacy media have. Legacy media's boycotting Trump pressers would wound him.

chubs04.bsky.social•8 days ago

You are right and candidly he loves the attention

adub01488424.bsky.social•8 days ago

Whatever happened, it would **greatly** reduce the reach of the WH press secretary.

redclayramblins.bsky.social•8 days ago

There was only one major news organization that was accurate in the lead up to the Iraq invasion. They were the ones excluded from the Bush WH

kislingconnection.bsky.social•8 days ago

*ding ding ding*

whipstitch.bsky.social•7 days ago

Yes. US Attorneys have been threatened with the loss of their jobs if they stand up, but these reporters wouldn't lose anything but their ticket to a clown show.

schroedinger.bsky.social•8 days ago

But Stelter would be unemployed without his precious access because all he knows how to do is stenography, not journalism.

lilylighthouse.bsky.social•8 days ago

Welcome
To Russia.

marietoto.bsky.social•7 days ago

Seconded

politicallyint.bsky.social•8 days ago

Breitbart News and One America News Network have already replaced NBC, NYTs and more in the Pentagon briefing room.

https://www.thewrap.com/pentagon-removes-media-nbc-news-nyt-other-media-rotation-program/

teemichelle57.bsky.social•8 days ago

The News Today is The Nothing more than the National Inquirer of today. They have gotten soft and just get information from post of others reporters and than repeat the same shit over and over again. It time to Rise up and go "OLD SCHOOL "Again. BYLINES NEWS MEDIA DOES IT WELL.

freeformz.me•8 days ago

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naveman.bsky.social•8 days ago

This is true because these events do t really offer anything. The press can still report what the administration is doing without being at their propaganda briefings.

20thcenturyicon.bsky.social•8 days ago

The “legitimate press?” Who’s that? Not anyone who has a spot in the WH press room. The rare legitimate press outlets are independent, not beholden to corporate entities eager to normalize fascism. And the few exceptions within legacy media are shown the door, ala Acosta.

becks58.bsky.social•8 days ago

If it was only on Breitbart and OAN nobody with a brain would see it live perhaps but reporters could still report on it. I don’t see the problem.

madhominem.bsky.social•8 days ago

it's almost like the big news outlets would have to be...adversarial

davidakaye.bsky.social•8 days ago

yeah

calizaybak.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yeah, but then they'd have to go out and do reporter stuff rather than being stenographers.

amicusopus.bsky.social•8 days ago

For The Press to go into "show me" mode or "after the event recap and fact-check" would be the kind of quiet move that would drive him wild.

dwarkmke.bsky.social•8 days ago

Is a reporter going to have to be actually detained in the briefing room before they allow themselves to see?

dwarkmke.bsky.social•8 days ago

@normative.bsky.social
I can't believe they don't see that is the actual power that they have. Trump NEEDS their attention. They have him by the balls if they just walk out!

Sure he likes Breitbart and whatever but that doesn't give him the same vindication that the Wall Street Journal does.

ranjitdighe.bsky.social•8 days ago

Agreed. Attending these press conferences is a waste of scarce resources.

kombiz.bsky.social•7 days ago

100% the problem isn't events that the wh live streams and covers. It's the stuff happening outside that camera view. Could a well sourced reporter just turn to helping id people from outside coming in instead?

leadbelly.bsky.social•8 days ago

“C‘mon CNN, it’s time for you to go observe another White House briefing”

emtoo.bsky.social•8 days ago

They could spend the time doing actual, you know, journalism.

matt-camp.com•8 days ago

Hei'l just get RT News to take their place..

winterpancake.bsky.social•8 days ago

It's almost like that's what op is trying to prevent

stevezorowitz.bsky.social•8 days ago

I mean, does he think Trump is going to call Breitbart or OANN instead of Maggie when he wants attention?

russellmark.bsky.social•8 days ago

Good lord, no. You guys still don't understand what is happening.

nancylord.bsky.social•8 days ago

And maybe the legitimate press would cover the resistance and what they are saying. Never saw the speeches given on the floor of Congress recently. Trump would hate it if he wasn't covered by the legitimate press even for a day.

suasponte2023.bsky.social•8 days ago

For me, the question is, if the legitimate press were in fact replaced with propaganda outfits at WhIte House events, would the legitimate press *still* cover what is said there?

rhoneleah.bsky.social•8 days ago

He also would have a huge fit because Trump obsessed about being in the spotlight.

felinablanc.bsky.social•8 days ago

Think of the actual reporting and investigation they could do if they weren't dancing attendance on the jackass and his entourage.

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