I tested positive for COVID two months ago, even though I am up to date on the vaccine. I felt like I was dying. I can't imagine how horrid the virus must be if I had relied upon "my natural immune system." I am still getting over it; I have my good days and my bad days. The vaccine saves lives.
I was also lucky and dodged it until recently. An appalling feeling of weakness and illness that affected my health in sneaky ways after. One stupid thing was—even though I am almost never ill, I was so out of it and befuddled I didn’t even realize it was covid for a day. My brain went to SHIT.
Like you, I got the vaccines and boosters. But it just gets ya. Nothing catastrophic but without vaccine, who knows. It was so peculiar. I was lying there, too weak to get up going ‘wow, what is happening?’ OH RIGHT. COVID. This took me a whole day! First illness I have had in over 10 years.
No vaccine. I've had it twice that I'm aware of. Once was barely noticeable. Least bad I've ever felt while sick. The second time was comparable to the Flu. Not the worst flu, but who wants the flu? Either way, I'm happy with my choices.
Had bad cough, tested negative had lunch with someone who let people know she later tested positive. My cough came back & then I tested positive. Got Plaxlovid. Cough gone, but still tested positive. 🤷♀️. No fever, nothing more. But, I WAS vaccinated. Vaccines help keep people out of emergency rooms.
I could not agree with you more. I was flat on my back for 16 days. Still could smell. Still good taste. But, totally incapacitated and I do have all my vaccines and mask. Can’t imagine what it would’ve been without.
I'm up to booster number 4.
I got COVID August/September 2023, I have now got severe motion sickness & vertigo as long lasting symptoms ever since. 10 days in a delirium, barely lucid. It's now a year & a half, I'm taking 2 new types of meds just to control the fuck up to my sinuses it did.
Glad you’re okay! The thing folks forget too is that how sick you get after exposure depends on how huge or small of an exposure you received. Of course a healthy immune system will help you fight an exposure, but it will struggle with a huge one.
a lot of people, especially people not vaccinated, have had at least five major bouts with Covid. They are getting immunity that way, but what are the long term consequences of so many significant exposures?
And with every exposure, they passively “train” the virus to be better at infecting human beings. This can tailor the virus to be less or more lethal. I do not want to be part of its education if I can help it!
two years ago, a friend had a major brain aneurysm when sick with Covid for the third time. it's not good. I feel fortunate I've had one infection, I get all the vaccines.
Any vaccine doesn't say it's a guarantee to not get, it's more of a protection from hopefully not getting or not having as bad of symptoms including dying. All those carriers that have no symptoms are literally spreading it too
So? I know people who caught it & were asymptomatic, I know people like you. I know people like me who caught it and were very sick. I know people who were hospitalised and I know people who died. Russian Roulette my dear, you got the good bullet. Thing is no one knows what bullet they'll get.
I also know people with debilitating Long Covid. Thing is, statistics show vaccines have globally made a difference. What happened to you anecdotally means you were lucky. Instead of making us unlucky ones or the relatives of very unlucky ones feel bad, perhaps sympathise and stop denying science.
Given all the current science and official data, based on my age and health status I have <1% chance of needing any medical intervention at all for COVID, let alone hospitalization.
The CDC data is commsenurate with my experience.
You're "denying science" and real data to pretend I'm "just lucky."
I've not factored in age or co morbidities in my simple analogy...you're right. Limited characters limit full explanations. But, despite more chance of getting 5/6 bullet if elderly or comorbid, there are still healthy people with that risk. My COPD dad with Cancer in his 70s breezed through it...
Me, very healthy and fit woman in 40s got very sick. A child in our school almost died, the rest asymptomatic. My cover teacher's husband in his 20s, unvaxxed in ICU. The thing is, it's still a roll of a dice, even if the risk is less and there are unknowns here but if we all took collective
It wasn't meant as a scientific treatise, just sharing my experience. But back in 2021 ol' Sharp As A Tack Joe told me I'd face "severe illness and death." 🤣
It wasn't luck, it was actual science and data. Based on CDC research, given my age and health status I have <1% chance of even needing any kind of medical intervention from COVID. Driving to work was/is a far more real danger than COVID.
Most COVID infections on vaccinated people are not spread as easily, since the immune system reacts to neutralize the virus much faster than in none vaccinated individuals. Therefore, the rampant spread has stopped, if you will. COVID is here to stay.
COVID didn't just disappear, dude. It's still around. And it's still spreading and mutating. And, no, unless you get vaccinated against a specific disease or illness, you won't have any immunity to said disease/illness.
Indeed, vaccines are intended to make these viruses more manageable. Same case for flu vaccines. For the record, no one without a Polio vaccine is able to manage that sickness, so, yes, in many cases, especially bacterial infections, vaccines are immensely beneficial.
THIS energy in contrast to the "we have to listen to all sides" pandering. We don't need to give equal platform to nonsensical arguments/disinformation. If an
Astrophysicist speaks to the spherical world using science + history, we don't then need to hear from a flat earther on their riveting take.
They’re going to have to get with it and we need to demand it/hold them accountable. These organizations are complicit in spreading disinformation that’s had reckless and even dangerous repercussions.
It’s a shame that, because of Trump & MAGA, Americans on the right are arguing with medical professionals - based on Republican politicians who know absolutely nothing about infectious diseases & who are just trying to score political points for their cult?? Very concerning indeed.
It's interesting to consider how a president's background and experience can shape their approach to leadership. For instance, some presidents have had
What do you mean by this? Transgender people are still people, and have been living right beside Cis gender people in every era of humanity. There's plenty of biological, scientific, physiological and REAL history to support their existence.
They provide breeding ground for viruses to mutate more quickly making virus more dangerous; endanger their own children; endanger immunocompromised people & those who can't get vaccines. Referencing Darwin is funny but those of us smart enough to get vaccinated will also suffer greatly
Sadly it can happen. But the antivaxxers won’t change their minds for any reason so waiting for Darwin is at least better than wasting our breaths arguing with the fools.
Thank you for pointing this out.
My father, who is in his 80's now, got COVID a couple months ago. Unfortunately, he developed pneumonia soon afterward and had to be hospitalized. If it weren't for being vaccinated, he would probably be dead, even after the steroid shot they gave him.
The brainwashing often includes belief in religious fanaticism; ignorant and uneducated people who are sucked in by evangelical leaders only in it for power and money. They choose bible teaching over science, reason and critical thinking.
Where did this delusional need to think you are special come from? …What’s odd is that I don’t have a single friend or family member who possesses thebelief that fate has handed them a gold star. Everyone I know has a reasonable awareness bad shit happening to other people can ALSO happen to them.
Anti-vaxxers (and MAGA angertainment addicts) are simply not serious people and I have disengaged from trying to convince them that 5000 years of lived human experience (aka civilization), science and plain logic are more valid than their YouTube binge-watching. 😐
Nicholas seems to believe his natural immunity is strong enough to handle pissant viruses like Covid, but not bad boys like VD. He’s a prime candidate for rejection by natural selection.
I'm really digging that intelligent people are fed up with dumb people and trying to justify their stupidity. It's beyond time for scientists, doctors, and engineers to stop pandering to the dumb at the fault of losing their own time while doing it.
Good redemption for Thom, here. PreCovid, just before he stepped away from his RT America show, he platformed Andrew Wakefield and didn't push back at all against anything he said while he went through his talking points.
So the caller is saying his immune system is alpha, the virus that causes COVID-19 is beta, and the viruses that cause syphilis and gonorrhea are alpha. Thus, he is protected from COVID-19.
I'd be curious if by Alpha they mean the radiation that iirc is so weak it can't penetrate a piece of paper but still highly toxic or if it's so buggy and deficient it's not fit for public exposure
Love love love Thom Hartman. If more folks in rural America could’ve been listening to him over the rush Limbaugh’s & alex jones of world we might be in a better situation.
I remember listening to his show before anyone was talking about covid.....it wasn't even being downplayed by the right yet. Thom didn't make predictions, but he warned his listeners about what could possibly happen. He was spot on. Pride of Michigan! ✌️💪
One of these geniuses actually asked on X whether it wouldn't be better to just expose ourselves to weakened forms of viruses, rather than get vaccinated. 🙄
Yes. I'm old enough to remember being taught the story of the development of the smallpox vaccine in school. I guess they don't cover stuff like how vaccines work any more.
Weird how you 7th grade science flunkers, doorknob lickers & horse paste eaters are such better public health advisors than immunologists & virologists. What's the better source for your superior knowledge? YouTube videos?
Since most anti-vaxxers have a mistrust of medical establishment, my argument is, what scenario makes those institutions more money: a) you taking a cheap vaccine and either not getting sick or having light symptoms, or b) you getting so sick you need to be hospitalized for weeks.
Look it up, pay attention.
Don't ignore the things that *quietly* come on the news and then are never mentioned again.
It's not a quick process to figure these things out.
And I'm not gonna do your homework for you.
If you’re alive, literally everything is toxic. Too much water will kill you, too little will do the same. There’s all sorts of chemicals in your body and if there were too much of any, well hopefully you get the picture.
I imagine you don’t care about the plastic in your blood though.
So, not knowing your age, I'm guessing you have never taken a vaccine as a child when you couldn't be in a public school without being vaccinated. Am I somewhat correct? Were you home schooled?
Likely, they're old, took ALL the vaccines as a kid, but also spent too much time around leaded gas and now they just repeat what they hear like a parrot.
Every single anti-vaxxer I know (and it turns out I know an alarming amount) took the standard CDC schedule as a kid. Somehow they all miraculously dodged the bullets loaded into every vaccine, though! The absolute nonsense people buy into when they need to feel special, man...
They're not bright, deep down they know it, so they want to feel like they're more intelligent than everyone, so they believe in things no one else does, because they're the only ones who can "see."
You are free not to vaccinate yourself. You are not free to not allow me to vaccinate myself. And if you wish to ignore the science, feel free to do that too. But don't make it sound like you know what the science is.
This is all true, except by not taking the vaccines, they put others, particularly the vulnerable, at risk.
So, if you don’t want to take the vaccine, stay away from everyone else.
You sound like someone who doesn’t have a doctor… So I’ll just tell you - doctors vaccinate their own kids.
That’s a little more convincing than a fake liberal BSky account who learned what “toxic adjuvants” are from “doing their own research.”
I think probably not, but the first thing I would do is flush out the bite-holes with lots of soap and water!
Wash away as many germs as possible, not let them spread freely into my tissues and hope the vaccine stuff would overwhelm them...
The way Bluesky does notifications I am embarrassed to admit it took WAY TOO long (like 10 or 20 seconds, but that was still too long) to realize this and other comments weren't directed at me.
Ha! I felt like one for sure. But as long as I think I am an idiot, I won't be surprised when I say or do something stupid. It's all about having low expectations.
India did worse. Doesnt anyone remember they ran out of enough wood to cremate all the dead bodies and started throwing them in the rivers? Think of the population size of India. Estimates from that wave alone was between 2 and 5 million dead from covid and that makes sense.
Fighting a virus relying solely on your immune system is like engaging in a war by only reacting to the enemy's moves. In contrast, using a vaccine is like going into battle armed with a detailed blueprint of the enemy's strengths, weaknesses, and strategies.
The right wants it that way. Former UK PM Boris Johnson said the virus was nature's way of dealing with old people. The more unvaccinated people, the more old people die, the less the cost of healthcare.
By the sheer ignorance of people!! I even hear it from healthcare workers nurses and other medical professionals. Wtf is happening??!! I cannot believe people think we were better off 100 years ago when most only survived to possibly 40 and that was old!!
I hope they weren’t your healthcare provider! If they were hope you fired them and registered a complaint with the licensing board. That is NOT up to the standard of care that a professional, intelligent, competent practitioner should provide.
Being formally trained to properly do tasks and how to do them (eg. nursing) is not not actually the same as truly understanding why.
Regurgitating answers on written exams and following proper procedure in practicals, is what counts.
(And too often, even trainers may not truly understand the why.)
That is absolutely amazing!!! I worked and I still work in the health care field and I was with an agency that would send me to various hospitals, assisted living facilities and clinics during the pandemic and I watched firsthand as so many people died a very horrible death!! I am astounded . Cont
My own doctor won’t give me the Covid shots because he said the FDA hasn’t given him any evidence telling how well the vaccines really work. He told me to get the shots at the pharmacy. I told him ok and please stop watching Fox News and friends.
Such people are immune to rationality. They deny the reality of any fact which conflicts with their delusions. They cling to beliefs even when surrounded by evidence that they're harming themselves. In short, they are stupid, and there's nothing that might be said which could be helpful
I clearly remember a time in the campaign where conservatives were losing it for being called "weird" and actually got more traction when dems tried to appeal to them by engaging to their right. I'd say we continue calling them stupid instead.
I don't understand the people that think eating healthy and working out makes them immune from disease. Have they never heard of elite athletes contracting and dying of diseases?
The "I'm special" crowd are spreaders.
At a statistical level, COVID killed the elderly and immunocompromised at a far higher rate than the "fit and healthy" types. It's the same with the flu.
The antivax idiots just don't think about it and assume being less likely to die means you'll never die from it.
Eating healthy and exercising may prevent certain physical conditions, but you're just as susceptible to viral and infectious diseases as anyone else. It may help you from dying--maybe, but it won't prevent you from getting diseases. It doesn't give you magic immunity.
My mom's lifelong BF's son was one & died a horrible death. Was SUPER fit & healthy--an active full life.His mom worked in healthcare, his MIL was a nurse--all implored him/his fam to get vaxxed. Refused. He was hospitalized 2x. Covid devastated his fit body. Went home on O2. Chose to drown himself.
OMGGG This is AWESOME!!!
How can I save the video for posting elsewhere please?? All it does is take me back to this blue sky post, and tRumpers don't have blue sky lol
BTW I LOVE Thom Hartmann and listen to him often!!!!
The uncomfortable truth is, if I demand bodily autonomy for myself, I can not in the same breath deny someone else their bodily autonomy because that would make me a hypocrite.
If I want freedom to make my own healthcare decisions, I have to give others the same freedom even if I don't agree.
I see your point and I think everybody should be able to practice bodily autonomy, at home but not in public. If you want to be part of a society you have to play by some rules
Very American, but ideologically just piffle. Why it it proper to fight for the right for someone to make hate speech? To praise Hitler's holocaust? To insult people of colour? To insult others an lie on the campaign trail? What exactly are you defending? Or are you simply ignoring the struggle?
The sentiment is from 18th century France, however you're correct they have the right to say what they believe and did so, no dusting required. Equally if what they are saying is patently wrong and demonstrably dangerous the same rights afford someone equally to express that.
Well, I wasn't going to go to the same depths of drama as Voltaire and "defend to the death" your right to say something I disagree with 😂 but it is an interesting, provocative notion.
I can not support free speech only when it soothes and assures me.
I don't think there's evidence he used those exact words (in french).
It's a modern curse of algorithms that feed us biased posts as much as our decisions to only support things we agree with. The "Do your own research" folk who can't see they've been fed biased data are just a consequence.
Yes to the extent they understand that they are possibly fueling the deaths or injuries of countless other humans including children and someone’s precious grandfather.
That completely ignores the basic concepts of the greater good, community effort, shared responsibility, helping others, and personal obligation to common wellbeing. How libertarian. Freedom comes with responsibility to others: it isn't just a selfish agenda to avoid inconvenience or discomfort.
Except when they are a danger to themselves AND OTHERS? Typhoid Mary was sent to live on a deserted island for continuously infecting others - children died because of her bodily autonomy
I would generally agree with you on that, but when the best vaccine science can give us for something like Covid doesn't actually impart immunity and has to be refreshed every 3 months, I lose faith, you know?
I'll use other measures like consistent n95s, extreme social distancing, daily vitamins.
You cannot conflate personal bodily autonomy decisions( breast implants, vasectomy) with personal decisions about viral, communicable diseases. Viruses & bacteria spread without political philosophy agendas and render conversation about bodily autonomy irrelevant.
I'm due to be boosted again soon, but telling someone ELSE that they MUST consent to having fluids forcefully inserted into their bodies or be punished by society seems disturbingly like a kind of rape.
In the case of a vaccine one person’s “bodily autonomy” affects literally everyone else around them. If I get a nose job, your nose is unchanged—if you’re unvaccinated and I’m immunocompromised, it could be a death sentence for me.
Don't worry, I believe you. I was using more extreme language than I thought you believed.
But if you think that society can't enforce vaccine (e.g. a vaccine pass) to protect ICompromised and that being ICd is basically a death sentence. You're saying that IC folks are not worth protecting
I don't think it's useful to make a statement about a right to medical autonomy in isolation, then extrapolate that into a scenario that pits multiple rights against each other.
Tradeoffs have to be discussed with full awareness of what is to be gained or lost on either side.
I guess he should have said HIV then? The point is that very few people actually expect their "natural immunity" to withstand literally everything; at some subconscious level they just don't grasp how air transmission is a thing while they generally get how sexual transmission can be
It's not, it's a perfectly valid comparison. There's something readily available that works 95-99% of the time, can protect yourself & others from getting sick, has minimal side effects - unless an extremely rare chance you're allergic to any of ingredients & causes at most a minor inconvenience.
Basically, I was challenging myself to think of various medical decisions that other people could make with their bodies that I may or may not agree with, or choose for myself.
Medically-assisted suicide, donating their corpses to research, facial tattoos, consensual cannibalism...
I ain't fighting for some parent's "right" to send their kid to school without having the MMR and Polio vaccines; bodily autonomy, in my opinion, only goes as far as not actively harming others.
As someone once said, "Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins."
This argument rather begs the standard, re-hashed retort of, "if your child has been truly immunized via vaccinations, then you have nothing to worry about."
Your child is protected.
For better or for worse, other people's children are not within your domain, or in the realm of your oversight.
BCG is not the point. TB is the perfect hill to stand on. The RATE of harming others is important. Coronary Disease has ~ zero chance of being 'contagious". TB may have an (arbitrary figure) 5% chance, showing up months to years later. It's Hedonistic Calculus when it comes to Public Health.
Not if you could potentially harm people by being negligent. We have rules and systems to protect ourselves from ourselves. anti vaxx people don’t make sense because I know if they have livestock and one got sick, they wouldn’t keep them around the other animals. They would know how risky that was
It total the VICP has compensated 4,153 claims since inception across various vaccines. Meanwhile hundreds of millions of individuals have been vaccinated multiple times across generations. But yeah. Fuck hundreds of millions for 4100 people, right?
Disease protection and prevention are based on the probability of outcomes. If you bother to look at the math and potential outcomes, you get vaccinated. Not getting vaccinated is just a really poor life choice.
Far too many people so-desperately want to believe that vaccines are the Perfect answer that they don't believe anyone has ever been harmed/killed by a vaccine - and that every vaccine prevents every illness.
Vaccines COULD be made safer, but it would *cost more money*.
All my mother's 8 siblings were vaccinated for Diphtheria expect 4yr old Beau. Diphtheria was raging through Eastern America. Millions infected and thousands of horrific deaths.Fever,profound weakness, Unable to Breath. You strangle/drown in the thick mucus that fill the lungs.
Beau died that way
I did not say no one on earth should ever get a vax? 🙄 I do not believe a baby should receive all those shots in the little time they are. Also just because one is made does it mean everyone needs it. What happened to testing immunity before receipt?
How about that info provided by the govt about C19 being safe. All those who have died from myocarditis would say different. But show some more graphics.
The virus causes more problems than the vaccine ever caused. Did you see the hospitals during Covid in 2020? I did. I took care of these people. The vaccine saved lives. All vaccines save lives.
I won’t bother to get into the science because you’re obviously anti science. Deaths from heart attacks has gone through the roof because Covid is a vascular disease and affects all the organs in the body. I could show you more information but it would not make a difference.
Google can be your friend if you want to know more about something. I just read on the WHO website that some form of a smallpox vaccine can be traced back to 200 BCE. It was introduced to Europe in 1721 by Lady Mary Wortley Montagu who had observed it the Ottoman court in Istanbul
So Washington required all his troops to be vaccinated against smallpox. The process of vaccinating the troops began on January 7 1777. The British Army had a huge advantage because most of their troops had immunity to the strain Variola.
“In late 1776, as Gen. George Washington led his troops through the opening battles of the American Revolution, it was not necessarily the enemy fighters who posed the biggest risk to the fledgling U.S. Army”
An estimated 90% of deaths in the Continental Army were caused by disease,🦠
I’m not in the medical field but I read a number of books, read articles in Nature, followed the experts and trusted the science. To think that people played roulette with their lives and their families lives because of propaganda spread by libertarian billionaires and malign influences is shocking
I have been in line the first week on every vaccine. In fact I added the new pneumonia vaccine, shingles and even considered the RSV but it was expensive
The dreaded cytokine storm. Former Army Combat Medic / Practical Nurse here. I blocked the anti-vaxxer. I received all my vaccinations TWICE - once in childhood & in Basic Training. I'm a senior citizen now who survived Covid thanks to Dr. Fauci & the Pfizer vaccine.
The chances of vax injury are quite a bit slimmer than anti-vaxxers make them out to be. But the risks of not being vaccinated are proven to be far greater.
You can, but I don't want to see any tears when you or yours get sick with preventable diseases and suffer consequences. Vaccines do not cause autism as this has been proven many times.
That is very very rare. There are more children and adults dying from preventable diseases from no vaccines. That is not a valid argument. Did you ever look at your family background and wonder how could they have had 10 children and only 1 survived?
There is no natural immunity to a novel disease you haven't ever encountered!
I'll happily take avoiding getting sick any time over "boosting" my immune system by catching a disease. Knock on wood, still never caught covid (but have every vaccine and booster).
I feel like"never had covid" should be an achievement nowadays, it happened so fast for me haha
Wasn't horrible, but I'm young with no related issues. Still wouldn't want to have it or any other disease, some people are just crazy
I feel like I should caveat, obviously there's a chance I've had asymp covid and didn't know it. But I test every time I've felt ill. I hate getting the flu, and colds have knocked me down for over a week, why would I volunteer for this?? Haven't had any of it since 2022. (Again, knock on wood.)
(I hate shots...I have a mild phobia over them, and used to sometimes skip the flu shot...not any more. Give me all the shots. Just, don't make me watch.) 🙃
I got every vaccine and booster, and I did get sick. For about 2 days. And then I got over it quickly because my immune system was trained to deal with it. Thank god for vaccination. I can only imagine what the death toll would have been like if it had never happened.
I recall listening to a podcast with Peter Attila where one of the doctors claimed that immunity was established by the fact that people who were hospitalized for Covid weren't hospitalized the second time around 🙄🙄
And the whole point of the vaccine was not to prevent covid, but to lessen the symptoms if I remember correctly. So the vaccine was just the easier route compared to being hospitalized the first time
COVID absolutely bodied me, THROUGH the vaccine. It took me months to be able to climb my stairs without feeling like a belt was cinched around my chest. I am firmly convinced that with as hard as it hit me though the vaccine, it would have put me in ICU without it.
With vaccine, fewer people get sick, fewer who get sick get seriously ill, fewer of those seriously ill need to be hospitalized, and fewer of those hospitalized die or (arguably even more significant) have life-altering disabilities.
I’ve had Covid twice… and like you, every single shot and booster! Each time I was truly “sick” for about four days. Health panels have been solid too (other than the PCOS, which I had prior to 2019) so my body has been fighting it well thanks to the shots!!!
I'm deathly afraid of long covid. I know it's a very very reduced risk after vax/boosters. But not zero. Trying so hard to avoid it. I don't need more health complications!
Understand!! As a teacher I definitely mask up with some regularity and am wary of long covid due to my own long-term condition. Hoping for more novavax in the US and continued data on its efficacy, too.
I tested COVID-positive on 12/15 and negative on 12/24. And I am still coughing and tired. At 69 years old I’d likely be in the hospital without the new vaccine. COVID is no joke.
More often than not, because they don't want to understand, -- or won't bother to understand but resent (or blame) people who do.
It's a growing trend here in Canada & Europe, too.
Easy, simplistic "magical thinking" appears more appealing than learning facts, valid logic and critical thinking.
Same here with COVID vaccine & blood clots.
Do you know what massively increases your risk of getting blood clots?
That's right, being infected by COVID. Vaccine is safer for blood clots than paracetamol.
Yeah, it was part of genetics and mutations, since cancer is a Mutation and all.
I think we learned it in a pretty simple way though, compared to like a medical student
Yep, my friend (a nurse) said "people our age don't get covid", then she got covid and said "now I'm Super Immune and can't spread it", then she and her whole family got covid and her response was "masks don't help, everyone is going to get it eventually." She vaxxed, but, wouldn't isolate.
She's delusional.
Honestly, I think she was dismayed her sons wouldn't let her hold/visit her very young grandkids and she was believing her own bullshit. She wouldn't comply with masks and distancing. She was lonely and guilt-tripped everyone. Including me. I had to lie about being home/away.
I'm so sorry. I struggle with my hard headed husband almost every day but at least in the matters of health he has enough brain cells where they belong.
I'm hoping one day we will be rid of anti-vaxxers on high levels and normalcy starts coming back.
I have several anti-vax friends who are moving to Spain... a country with socialized medicine and even their food has government controls on how/where it's grown. I wonder how they will like being told they can't leave the house if/when another outbreak occurs. They voted for 45 and now leaving. 😒
To be fair...about 10% of the human population is naturally immune to Covid...but that's like playing Russian Roulette with your life. I have never had Covid but I get the booster when it's available because I'm not stupid enough to believe I'm in that 10% group.
As an expat though, I have to admit, any American that thinks their immune system is running at a high level of performance is suspect. It took me a long time living abroad to have a clue what a healthful diet actually is, and just how bad the entire food situation is in America.
Hey...full marks for humility. I wish there were more people who had that.
I got Covid very, very late compared to those around me. It was the 1st time I had anything in a LONG time despite sick ppl around me a lot. Immune systems are more than anti-bodies. Not everyone got Covid due to that.
Wait until that caller learns all that crap he takes to stay fit likely blasting in the gym is killing him and the human heart can’t differentiate between 200lbs of muscle or 200lbs of fat - the strain is the same.
If you admit your natural immunity doesn't protect you from syphilis, it's beyond stupid to think it'll protect you against covid...or measles, mumps, diphtheria, and tetanus.
I agree some people can't do that. We just elected a guy as president who can't do that. But many others have learned to be open-minded enough to admit they might be wrong and rethink their position.
This is the only way to talk to Republicans anymore. They are either stupid enough to belive their own lies or evil enough to push it anyway. There is no good faith discourse anymore.
It reminded me of the closing line of a classic Monty Python skit: "you're a very silly man, and I'm not going to interview you."
(said by the correspondent to Mr. Throat-Warbler Mangrove, whose name is actually pronounced as "Raymond Luxury-Yacht"... except 'yacht' is pronounced as "Yatched"...) 😂
The follow up question should have been: why do you think your protection to covid is your natural immune system but it's not for gonorrhea or syphilis?
This mutates with the speed of a cold. The only way to truly eliminate it is to make sure everyone I vaccinated at the same time and don’t spread or allow mutations by catching it again and again. There will be no ‘natural immunity’ for longer than the current strain at this rate.
They don't like being told what is best for THEM. They are in control of their own bodies. And then viruses get spread around to everybody. Spoiled babies.
Spreading it is just the beginning. They're allowing it to multiply unchecked in their bodies so it is far more likely to mutate into a new strain that *nobody* is immune to, similar to when young children start school and get sick over and over, and their parents get sick over and over.
They think licking the floor of a subway car builds up the "muscles" of their immune response like lifting weights builds up muscles. It gives their immune system a workout. lol.
These people don't understand basic science - and fear what they don't understand or can't be bothered to learn about - so pivot it to make it look like they actually understand more than the scientists. These are the people Trump and Musk whip up with their nonsense.
Non-vax immunity maybe has a few roots:
1) past extermination of those with less effective immune systems (e.g. early zoonoses, Native Americans' 1st encounters of Eurasian diseases, child death),
2) breastfeeding I think passes some antibodies to kids
3) folks count on being survivors for point 1
And you were "vaccinated"? I put it in quotes because it isn't a traditional vaccine but more of a booster that teaches the body to recognize and coat spike proteins.
Nicholas is espousing the same nonsense which street kids passed amongst themselves well into the AIDS/HIV epidemic, which held that if you were really 'tough' you wouldn't contract the 'gay' disease. Tragically, a lot of those uninformed youngsters died.
Russia has been sowing distrust in science for decades. In the 80’s they had an “Active Measures” (asymmetrical warfare) called “Operation Infektion) which claimed that HIV was developed by the DOD to kill black people. https://youtu.be/tR_6dibpDfo?si=C3KkSJxRvnty-ryh
In 2014, the year Russia invaded Crimea they also started a campaign on SM to sow doubt about the measles vaccine and autism. They targeted the wellness community and soccer moms who would become the Q believers and the anti vaxers. RU set off a depopulation bomb
Russia has ALWAYS been our enemy. Anyone who fails to understand this is part of the problem. With Trump successfully installed in the WH by Musk and Putin, they expect to dismantle our Democracy without firing a single shot. Trump, Musk, and their thugs are the enemy.
Where is the 'natural immunity' to polio? Smallpox? Cholera? Typhoid? Leprosy? Influenza? Bubonic plague? Rubella? Pertussis? Shingles? Chicken pox? Pneumonia? The common cold? Humans have suffered and many died from these since the dawn of history and we still don't have immunity to one of them.
I'm asking if natural immunity is real. I think some vaccines are very necessary 100% to eradicate. But I'm just wondering is there an instance where natural immunity works
Hmm herd immunity. Got it! I remember having the chicken pox and my mom had my cousins come over so we all get ot together. Not sure what that's called. But I remember it. We didn't have vaccines for it in the 80s.
Speaking of stupid conversations, all the Breakfasts w Bernie that Thom had, an hour every Friday for two years, doing FIoX’s work basking Hillary & Democrats. Thanks for Drumpf, Thom.
I actively encoruage the anti-vax community to not put that into your bodies just based on what some stupid doctor says. Go for it. I'm sure your internet dumpster fire article is right.
Perfect response.
I rode to work in a van full of idiots for years, who had this same attitude. I couldn’t appeal to their sense of being part of society, because they had none. Even though every one of them knew I had an autoimmune disease. Of course, all of us ended up with Covid.
Great little vignet. And this can go on and on. The reason polio is gone is because of vaccinations. Too many of my classmates were crippled or in iron lungs, before the polio vaccine.
There's 5 bullets in a COVID19 Russian Roulette gun. 1. No bullet you somehow don't catch it. 2. Asymptomatic. 3. Mild illness. 4. Moderate very unwell. 5. Severe, hospitalised. 6. Dead.
You don't know what bullet you'll get. But a vaccine jams the gun for most on 5&6. I got 4.
I firmly believe I would've got 5 (maybe 6) if it hadn't been for my vaccines.
I actually got 1 a few months earlier and I'm happy for those who get 1,2,3 but what annoys me most is the lucky ones who insult (and possibly infect) us unlucky or even unluckier ones by denying the damn science!!
I've had it a few times. first time before the vaccinations. I was in bed struggling to breathe when I walked to use the toilet. thought I was going to die. phoned 999 a few times. once my breathing settled called to cancel the ambulance.
This was me. I spoke to 111 a few times and I bought an Oximeter to keep an eye on my oxygen. It did used to dip but would then pop up again which I found reassuring. But the whole thing was so scary.
I got it twice and didn't even notice the first time time, because I was asymptomatic. The second one, I was mildly unwell. Both of those times, I was vaccinated. And, like you, I firmly believe that if I hadn't been, I would have been so much worse off.
I have had 9 covid vaccines so far - have low IgG antibodies so I get them first and often! Never had Covid nor any side effects. Am 68 and healthiest have ever been - walking my husky 5 miles a day also may have contributed 😆
Also, there's a chance that bullets 2-5 will give you long COVID which vaccines help prevent. (I guess 6 is eternal COVID.)
It's like the bullet can be normal or it can have some mercury and arsenic in it - you may survive, but not in the same condition. The vaccine tilts the odds in your favor.
Yes, I've not included Long Covid in my analogy despite struggling with it myself for about 8 months...I was lucky in that it pretty much cleared after that but every respiratory virus I've had since knocks me on my back, this latest one for weeks...I'm guessing that may be linked in some way.
I'm glad to hear that you're recovered from the "main effects" of long COVID, although I'm sorry to hear that you're getting more sick now. Hopefully this one clears up soon!
I'm recovering now but this bout of Pneumonia has scared me a bit I must admit. Going into busy places induces anxiety which it never did before but I'm happy to mask up even if I get looks. 🤣
I got vaccinated and my sense of smell is still wonky. Onions taste good again, finally. But when coffee tasted bad? God that was awful. I hate that disease so much. I’m glad I was merely inconvenienced, though. Other people had it so much worse.
Weirdly, I cannot eat cucumber since having COVID...they all taste rotten. It's such a weird thing. My sense of smell isn't as strong as it was but mostly returned.
I got #3 (barely even knew I was sick, only tested because a close contact was infected), with a side dose of "permanent lung damage requiring a steroid inhaler taken daily to prevent non stop coughing"
I just had a CT yesterday as they think I have lung damage from my latest bout of Pneumonia (not started by Covid this time but Flu) but I feel the damage is cumulative since I had that first bout of Covid. Steroid inhaler here too. I'm so sorry your damage is permanent.
I got Covid once, when I had had 5 shots. It was a horrible sore throat and a head cold for about a week. No fever or cough and no long covid symptoms.
I’ve had 9 (?) shots now. I also get annual flu shots. Last Monday I got a Tdap booster and pneumonia vaccine. I’m still not dead or autistic.
I'm a 47yr old teacher 1st caught COVID in Delta wave. Due 2nd vaccine & narrowly avoided hosp. My 25 yr old, fit healthy unvaxxed cover teacher caught it was v sick, her unvaxxed husband went to ICU, his unvaxxed friend on ventilator. Anecdotal but true -Anti vaxers refuse to believe my account.
Thank you. I'd been in close contact (husband) with an earlier strain and not even caught it (I'd had one vaccine then) I thought I was one of the lucky immune/asymptomatic ones but not once did I deny vaccination or underestimate this virus and always masked.
The greater good is important here.
Because vaccination dropped the mortality rate below 1% and dropped the hospitalization rate to around 3%. Meanwhile unvaccinated populations suffered a 10-12% mortality rate with a few outlier populations having 15% mortality and hospitalizations off the charts.
If his natural immunity protects him from Covid or other bacterial viruses, why should he worry about Gonorrhea and syphilis?
Will his natural immunity protect him earing raw meat or food contaminated by fecal matter? Shouldn’t he and medical teams be safe without the use of gloves or masks ?
The internet, for all the good it has done, has become the tool of destruction for this evolution of humankind. Humanity will need to evolve thru this stupidity to thrive. Survival of the fittest now includes creating a society that can harness and understand it correctly. We're nowhere close yet.
The really sad part is the people questioning information from actual science and medical sources will believe unquestionably in some anonymous person on 8 Chan who identifies themselves as Q!
"...At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
Our immune systems are not capable of protecting us from every single disease. Plus, no matter how healthy your lifestyle, we are ALL exposed to horrible toxins like PFAS everyday, that alone compromises our immunity.
I chose not to wear a useless mask and I chose not to be injected with a vaccine that ISN'T a vaccine. I won't be prone to Sudden Death Syndrome, Weird Blood Clots or any of the other maladies caused by The JAB. To me, that makes you, an ignorant 'Vaxxer'.
That so-called Covid-19 vaccine isn't a vaccine. Alison I am indifferent if you or others decide to get 'The Jab'. I didn't. Because I didn't, I know my DNA is still intact.
You've certainly got some points about the vax, but I do not think masks are useless. Look up all the other circumstances where masks are worn, and those statistics, and a dash of common sense...
My natural immunity is working just fine. If you have been injected with that bogus vaccine, your immunity may very well be compromised. If you wish to trust your life to the likes of Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates that's up to you. I do not choose to.
I find one of the most irksome quirks about cocky Leftists is their erroneous belief that they are the smartest, most intelligent, most knowledgeable, most witty Human Beings to ever exist on planet Earth. If those traits were true, you wouldn't be the total phuck ups that you are.
I worked in the hospital and it terrifies me to know that staff who are anti-vaxxers work in medicine. It's incredible that you can go through all that training and still refute the evidence, but you'll believe that autism is caused by a vaccine, that a snake can talk, and even Trump's honest.
Yep and the army of ‘it was all a hoax’ types daily post something re how so many dying because took the shot. 5 yrs this march & still moaning being forced to vax or claiming never were but we are sheep still. They hold grudges so long. Hadn’t seen this post…don’t have tik tok
& missed any shares
Sadly anti vaxxers, similar to their maga brethren (whatever way that Venn diagram shakes out) are not worth engaging. They’re infected with the same virus of ignorance, self righteousness and stupidity.
I have read several of Thom’s books, I subscribe to his newsletter and I listen to him whenever I can. I’m reading: The Hidden History of American Oligarchy right now. Needless to say, I’m a huge fan.
Antivaxxers have yet to admit that the overall number of covid cases is lower than it was before the vaccines were available. And why is that? Herd immunity. Me being vaccinated lowers the possibility of the people I come in contact with getting my infection.
To be scientifically correct, it’s not herd immunity (that was what UK and Sweden tried, didn’t work).But we were lucky to have the vaccines quick to save from a more severe outcome and the virus finally mutated in the right direction. Without the vaccines many people wouldn‘t have seen today.
Bird flu incoming just in time for this nutsack administration to fuck up its response. Problem is that the death rate from bird flu is WAY higher. Scary stuff.
Damn these "My good health gives me natural immunity to all diseases" morons. They get sick, won't mask, infect everyone, and ruin any chance at herd immunity from vaccines.
So fucking selfish. These people should simply be locked up with each other away from society. Let them infect each other.
I’ve said this in a previous comment in another post. But it tracks. The Right is the party of ME. The Left is the party of WE. The ME crowd gravitates right because they only see the world through how it affects them directly. The WE crowd is the inverse of that.
I feel you. I have two boys and they are my life. A young man about my boys age just got out of ICU in Canada. I am not sacrificing my sons on the alter of MAGA. I want my government to do everything it can to protect me. Let the MAGats go into the grinder if they want.
Good luck though. Sadly you've your own vaccine deniers there. Feb. 2022?
This protester shows off his ignorance.
Seems he does not know the definition of MANDATE.
BUT, I do not blame you 🇨🇦.... donnie infected the whole world w/ his poison.
But of course then they’d just argue the toss over hospital records being falsified to fake the numbers and how can it be proven Covid was the cause of those deaths etc. There’s always some additional BS conspiracy theory rumour without any actual evidence to back them up despite what they think.
Honestly, the vaccine saved my life and I am so weary of this rebellion against science. He sounded old enough to had all his vaccinations in his early life🤔
An anti-vaxxer relative refused to wear a mask and get the vaccine. Eventually, he got his immunocompromised wife infected - she was hospitalized and died within 3 weeks.
Welp, I hope that useless old fart has fun dying alone. See ya next time you fall on your fat ahh and break something, G.
He got basically kicked out this Xmas Eve. He went from being the awkward dumb uncle to the scumbag everyone hates, especially his own children - deserved, I say.
Curious if he realizes/accepts what he did with r finds a way to deny/justify. Because most of these idiots seem resistant to learning no matter how big the lesson
As far as I heard, he 100% doesn't understand the causality between not getting vaccinated or taking any kind of precaution and his wife getting sick and dying. He'll blame everyone and everything besides himself.
This comment deserves all the love it's clearing getting. These fuckwits don't even understand what "natural immunity" actually means. Christ on a cracker I'm so soooo weary of dealing with these imbeciles.
Unfortunately that only works if you are in a position of power in the conversation. Most of the time it just means you leave the conversation and the other parties continue to spread misinformation.
This is the dangerous weaponization of the internet combined with free speech and selfish people.
You always have the power to disengage and you can't stop people talking. To your other point, that's a huge issue with the algorithms being designed around rage and fear, and it needs some regulatory attention. Not going to happen any time soon.
Oh my god, I know. Right?
Distill this down to brass tacks and it, along with MAGA and all the rest -- from those who say the moon landing was faked to those who believe the world is flat, it's all the same thing: I am not wrong, I refuse to change my mind and I don't care who I hurt in this.
Bullshit. You're old enough to be retired, and likely generational enough to blindly follow without examining evidence and probably think Dems are ruining the country because that's what an unidentifiable "they" say.
You were vaccinated as a child you lousy fuck, multiple times, probably in school.
but I don't have the "weapon of mass destruction" shot!! It's a bio weapon, not a vaccine you foolish moron! It didn't stop getting Covid nor did it treat the MAN MADE disease. Since 1960, more vaccines are being forced on kids and Autism is up 400% plus....Hmmmm, must just be coincidence, eh?
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I got COVID August/September 2023, I have now got severe motion sickness & vertigo as long lasting symptoms ever since. 10 days in a delirium, barely lucid. It's now a year & a half, I'm taking 2 new types of meds just to control the fuck up to my sinuses it did.
Does anyone care?
The CDC data is commsenurate with my experience.
You're "denying science" and real data to pretend I'm "just lucky."
(I’m not - I’m not creative enough to make up ten different account names - but I would if I could.)
Astrophysicist speaks to the spherical world using science + history, we don't then need to hear from a flat earther on their riveting take.
I wish MSM would figure this out and follow it.
No understanding of biology, science, brain, physiology, and real people.
Transgender people are real and the bigotry needs to stop.
I'm vaccinated, and I'm still here.
But, Meatloaf is dead.
My father, who is in his 80's now, got COVID a couple months ago. Unfortunately, he developed pneumonia soon afterward and had to be hospitalized. If it weren't for being vaccinated, he would probably be dead, even after the steroid shot they gave him.
Where is our protection now?
Have at, ya dipshits.
I wonder if Göbekli Tepe had anti-latriners that refused to dig and use the latrine system because of their “natural immunity” to the stench of feces?
MAGA science is weird.
Using the word oxymoron does double duty:
Stupid conversations.
WHAT DO YOU THINK A VACCINE DOES!?
Not to mention the careless contamination that is found so often.
Don't ignore the things that *quietly* come on the news and then are never mentioned again.
It's not a quick process to figure these things out.
And I'm not gonna do your homework for you.
I imagine you don’t care about the plastic in your blood though.
They're not bright, deep down they know it, so they want to feel like they're more intelligent than everyone, so they believe in things no one else does, because they're the only ones who can "see."
So, if you don’t want to take the vaccine, stay away from everyone else.
That’s a little more convincing than a fake liberal BSky account who learned what “toxic adjuvants” are from “doing their own research.”
Hundreds of thousands of people die every year when they inhale dihydrogen monoxide, and they spray it on crops!
🙄
I told him he was crazy, but he proved me wrong... By dying in a fire, when he was 19.
Wash away as many germs as possible, not let them spread freely into my tissues and hope the vaccine stuff would overwhelm them...
🙄🙄🙄
The right wants it that way. Former UK PM Boris Johnson said the virus was nature's way of dealing with old people. The more unvaccinated people, the more old people die, the less the cost of healthcare.
Just sayin'.
Regurgitating answers on written exams and following proper procedure in practicals, is what counts.
(And too often, even trainers may not truly understand the why.)
- That caller
The "I'm special" crowd are spreaders.
The antivax idiots just don't think about it and assume being less likely to die means you'll never die from it.
How can I save the video for posting elsewhere please?? All it does is take me back to this blue sky post, and tRumpers don't have blue sky lol
BTW I LOVE Thom Hartmann and listen to him often!!!!
If I want freedom to make my own healthcare decisions, I have to give others the same freedom even if I don't agree.
I think this saying could use a good dusting and be set out on the coffee table again as a reminder to everyone.
And the concept is originally French or French-ish.
Liberté, égalité, fraternité!
I can not support free speech only when it soothes and assures me.
I can not.
It's a modern curse of algorithms that feed us biased posts as much as our decisions to only support things we agree with. The "Do your own research" folk who can't see they've been fed biased data are just a consequence.
Have you ever wondered why this program exists? Why you are not allowed to sue vaccine manufacturers?
I have often thought about it, but I have no answers.
https://www.justice.gov/civil/vicp
Instead, we chose to officially change the definition of "vaccine" to remove any reference to "immunity".
That feels very dishonest to me.
Be well. ☕️🌸
I'll use other measures like consistent n95s, extreme social distancing, daily vitamins.
It just seems dishonest and hypocritical to me.
I'm due to be boosted again soon, but telling someone ELSE that they MUST consent to having fluids forcefully inserted into their bodies or be punished by society seems disturbingly like a kind of rape.
Best way I can explain it.
That's the problem with trying to be balanced and moderate in today's society. You just end up with two sets of enemies. 🤷♂️🤦♀️
Enjoy your day. ☕️
Your body has no army. Your shield is down. You can be taken out by literally anything.
Develop bedsores and diarrhea at the same time, and sepsis will delete you in a heartbeat. 🖤
Because when the way to protect them is as simple and safe as a vaccine. I have to disagree with you on this.
This all started with me asking myself, "Do I have the right to make medical decisions for strangers?"
And my truthful answer to myself was, "no, I do not."
But if you think that society can't enforce vaccine (e.g. a vaccine pass) to protect ICompromised and that being ICd is basically a death sentence. You're saying that IC folks are not worth protecting
Tradeoffs have to be discussed with full awareness of what is to be gained or lost on either side.
Viruses are a whole different critter.
So, it was a rather unexpected and odd comparison/rebuttal.
#Mask4Life
#ILoveLysol
I wish everyone well, but I will never share air with my own species again if I can help it. 😂
It took me 4 years to finally get Covid. I didn't like the data on the early vaccines, but I think I'll get one this year (old-school type).
https://ir.novavax.com/press-releases/2024-09-13-Novavax-2024-2025-Formula-COVID-19-Vaccine-Available-at-Major-Pharmacies-Across-the-U-S
No woman ever put another woman at risk by having an abortion.
Is it my right to enforce or deny? The answer I came to was, "no".
Whether I agree or disagree, I have no right to tell someone else what to do.
I can only set an example.
Medically-assisted suicide, donating their corpses to research, facial tattoos, consensual cannibalism...
I was speaking to anything one might want to do with their bodies that may require a healthcare professional's assistance.
Body modification, plastic surgery, pregnancy surrogacy, sexual reassignment, selling spare organs, etc.
As someone once said, "Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins."
Your child is protected.
For better or for worse, other people's children are not within your domain, or in the realm of your oversight.
The Sith deal in absolutes.
If somebody wants to leave the Emergency Room with active heart disease and die in the street - their decision.
If they want to leave with active tuberculosis and infect a lot of people before they die I've gt a HUGE problem with that.
Not meaning to cause offense; I'm sure you are already aware of the discrepancy between nations already.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/hcp/vaccines/index.html
Or……
https://www.laresistance47.com/
Vaccines COULD be made safer, but it would *cost more money*.
Beau died that way
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36065751/
https://health.mil/News/Articles/2021/08/16/Gen-George-Washington-Ordered-Smallpox-Inoculations-for-All-Troops
“In late 1776, as Gen. George Washington led his troops through the opening battles of the American Revolution, it was not necessarily the enemy fighters who posed the biggest risk to the fledgling U.S. Army”
An estimated 90% of deaths in the Continental Army were caused by disease,🦠
I'll happily take avoiding getting sick any time over "boosting" my immune system by catching a disease. Knock on wood, still never caught covid (but have every vaccine and booster).
Wasn't horrible, but I'm young with no related issues. Still wouldn't want to have it or any other disease, some people are just crazy
With vaccine, fewer people get sick, fewer who get sick get seriously ill, fewer of those seriously ill need to be hospitalized, and fewer of those hospitalized die or (arguably even more significant) have life-altering disabilities.
See: seatbelts, airbags, life jackets, helmets...
I've had flus and cold hit me hard, with long recoveries, so, yeah. Not gonna risk it if I don't have to!
It's a growing trend here in Canada & Europe, too.
Easy, simplistic "magical thinking" appears more appealing than learning facts, valid logic and critical thinking.
Jokes on them, I learned how cancer works in 9th grade and this ain't it
Do you know what massively increases your risk of getting blood clots?
That's right, being infected by COVID. Vaccine is safer for blood clots than paracetamol.
Let's hope the next strain is stronger.
Then we can really put their theory to the test.
I think we learned it in a pretty simple way though, compared to like a medical student
She prays a lot.
🤦♀️
Honestly, I think she was dismayed her sons wouldn't let her hold/visit her very young grandkids and she was believing her own bullshit. She wouldn't comply with masks and distancing. She was lonely and guilt-tripped everyone. Including me. I had to lie about being home/away.
I'm hoping one day we will be rid of anti-vaxxers on high levels and normalcy starts coming back.
I doubt covid would have ended me without the vaccine, but who knows what funny little symptoms and long term issues I could have had without it
But still, thinking your natural immune system can counter an illness it never had before isn't the brightest idea out there.
I got Covid very, very late compared to those around me. It was the 1st time I had anything in a LONG time despite sick ppl around me a lot. Immune systems are more than anti-bodies. Not everyone got Covid due to that.
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Need an edit button!
-But-
Heads up. Lights on. Something we CAN do is REPOST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmSXcHLjLE
(said by the correspondent to Mr. Throat-Warbler Mangrove, whose name is actually pronounced as "Raymond Luxury-Yacht"... except 'yacht' is pronounced as "Yatched"...) 😂
It gets less intense each time. But I also feel like a damaged wreck for weeks after each time and it's an awful experience.
The more exercise and weight lifting it does, the stronger it is.
pros of having a nurse working in the house i guess
https://www.nature.com/articles/s12276-021-00602-1
This can also be prepared and enhanced , but not by contact with viruses, but basically healthy life style
1) past extermination of those with less effective immune systems (e.g. early zoonoses, Native Americans' 1st encounters of Eurasian diseases, child death),
2) breastfeeding I think passes some antibodies to kids
3) folks count on being survivors for point 1
https://youtu.be/tR_6dibpDfo?si=C3KkSJxRvnty-ryh
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This is how natural selection works.
Let's Go Darwin.
I rode to work in a van full of idiots for years, who had this same attitude. I couldn’t appeal to their sense of being part of society, because they had none. Even though every one of them knew I had an autoimmune disease. Of course, all of us ended up with Covid.
You don't know what bullet you'll get. But a vaccine jams the gun for most on 5&6. I got 4.
I actually got 1 a few months earlier and I'm happy for those who get 1,2,3 but what annoys me most is the lucky ones who insult (and possibly infect) us unlucky or even unluckier ones by denying the damn science!!
It's like the bullet can be normal or it can have some mercury and arsenic in it - you may survive, but not in the same condition. The vaccine tilts the odds in your favor.
I’ve had 9 (?) shots now. I also get annual flu shots. Last Monday I got a Tdap booster and pneumonia vaccine. I’m still not dead or autistic.
The greater good is important here.
Will his natural immunity protect him earing raw meat or food contaminated by fecal matter? Shouldn’t he and medical teams be safe without the use of gloves or masks ?
Why are we surrounded by these dopes?
What shocks me is just how stupid people really are. I had no idea that our country was filled with so many dopes.
Some people get more out of lies than face the truth. Especially if the lies comport with their desired world view no matter how nuts they are.
I call these people cowards.
https://www.opb.org/article/2025/01/02/oregon-pertussis-case-numbers-2024/
The mRNA vaccines don't affect your DNA. There's a very simple explanation as to why, but I'm guessing it's over your head.
Hope your natural immunity works out just fine in your favor. /s
I guess Trump funding to expedite the process of these vaccines just means he's in on the conspiracy, right? I mean, it only makes sense.
Vaccines work - the science behind it showcases this fact through the near eradication of several deadly diseases (polio, measles, malaria, etc.).
But sure, you think you understand how they function more than the scientific community. Brilliant joke, bro.
....is what I would say if I wasn't crying in my shower right now
You're damn spot on
& missed any shares
I went to school with kids that lost their hearing to measles. 💔
https://youtu.be/NTgW3Rw-AaY?feature=shared
Nature decides. So you'd better equip yourself to deal with that nature throws at you.
The anti-vax argument is basically "Clothes? If it gets cold, I'll just grow more hair."
The best I have heard to date.
Remeber those charts in every Health Dept, Clinic, Doc's office had forever-
The scientifuc reminder of how exposure to STDs a, hello, VIRUS works ?
Go try & find one now thnaks to these fignewtons.
So fucking selfish. These people should simply be locked up with each other away from society. Let them infect each other.
This protester shows off his ignorance.
Seems he does not know the definition of MANDATE.
BUT, I do not blame you 🇨🇦.... donnie infected the whole world w/ his poison.
@cab428.bsky.social
Welp, I hope that useless old fart has fun dying alone. See ya next time you fall on your fat ahh and break something, G.
This is the dangerous weaponization of the internet combined with free speech and selfish people.
Well, no. I wouldn't do that.
Well there's your "Shut up moment." Next caller.
Distill this down to brass tacks and it, along with MAGA and all the rest -- from those who say the moon landing was faked to those who believe the world is flat, it's all the same thing: I am not wrong, I refuse to change my mind and I don't care who I hurt in this.
You were vaccinated as a child you lousy fuck, multiple times, probably in school.