Hank this is somewhat related but I learned that the doge program had the government send out emails to federal employees to “report people” with concerning ideologies and people who may be dei hires to (spacing this out so it can’t be searched )
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Elon has made a career out of over promising and under delivering. Used to be companies that did that consistently would lose value instead of be rewarded for it, and people who did that were considered charlatans and liars instead of 'visionaries'.
Yes, I'd characterize him more of a troll than a literal Nazi. On one hand, I think we should just ignore him. On the other, his actions will definitely embolden literal Nazi's.
I don't think he's really that thoughtful about what he does. Perhaps he has some sort of intuition or just learned habits about what keeps him relevant but his past behavior paints a picture of a man who has no idea what he's doing and too much good luck.
Given the amount of times he's platformed and positively responded to clear fascist and racist content that writing this off as simply trolling is for attention is a kind of downplay.
Yes, he did it for attention - but there are a lot of non-nazi-affirming ways to have done that, but chose this.
I believe everything this man is calculated, every decision and action is to create a reaction. He holds ultimate wealth and wants the power that wealth can buy. You want to see what type of person he is look at his treatment of his transgender daughter.
Classic Narcissism. E.g., Trump also has only one metric by which he measures the ENTIRE world, no matter what topic it is, and that metric is: Trump. He is positive he's the only thing that matters in existence, and everything else—people, places, things, concepts—are only acceptable if: Trump.
They aren't fighting for leadership. They present it that way the same way the GOP and DNC pretend to fight so that you won't realize they are working together. This type of comic only feeds that delusion. It is STILL oligarchs versus us. They are organized and collaborating, not fighting each other
Let's say you are in a bar, and someone makes this salute.
Someone else defends it, saying “it's a Roman salute,” or “why should he do this?”
I say an likely response would be to beat the hell out of the first person and ask the second if they also want some.
Or at least that was the case 5-10 years ago.
On the internet, we answer the second person, like they made a good. Faith argument, which is something natsees use to their advantage.
Not saying we shouldn't, just keep that in mind.
He's the Jeffree Star of politics but instead of fake apologies where he insists he would never do the terrible thing we watched him do, he just blames the tism for it
Do we have a 30 day refund for 2025? I can’t do this. 2020-2022 was too much for me. If it’s only January and we’re already in such deep shit, I’m tapping out. I’m not stable enough for an oligarchical, n@zi regime.
You are 100% correct on this! Like no press being bad press. If you are talking about him, you are making him relevant, and that’s all he wants - his ego stroked.
Also, avoid using his name, make up something that everybody knows what you mean. Let’s not give him the traction on searches or anything. Negative attention is still attention to narcissists
Also, the guy lives up his own ass, (allegedly) does a LOT of drugs, and (allegedly) was blitzed out of his gourd at the inauguration. Why is anyone expecting his behavior to make logical sense?
Also, he made a racist gesture to appeal to racist supporters and, whether he "meant it" or not... 1) he hasn't retracted it and 2) he clearly doesn't mind that his actions embolden sincerely devoted racists.
As the adage goes: "If ten people sit at a table with one Yahtsee..."
Another guesting to ask, "Is this going to make money for Musk?" The real way to retaliate is to hit his bottom line: Don't buy his products. Same for the othe wealthy people in Trumps pockets, don't buy their products.
I reviewed my small investment account with Fidelity & when I found that one of the recommended mutual funds (500) included stock in Tesla I closed the account. No one should invest in a company owned by a Nazi
all these types forget that eventually you can't top your previous antics. he will either over-dose on ketamine or slip so far into irrelevance he destroys his own empire attempting to achieve that previous high.
Addicts do this all the time in search of that next high. Always just bit less each and every dose. And with the same predictable results. IIRC Hitler was a drug addict too.
I think, and I want to emphasize *I think* Elon is an insecure weirdo who got kicked to the curb by the left. I think many ppl like him think it's supposed to be welcoming an open when in reality some effort must be put in and they dont want to put that effort in so they flip 180°
Yes, and: Once everyone is talking about him, Step 2 is controlling what everyone says about him. So he bought an entire social media platform and cozies up to fascist dictators.
This would make sense in a smaller business. Yes all press is good press if you’re trying to get name recognition but Elon is already known world wide. Bad press would hurt his business at this point more than it would help
Hear me out: he did the huge gesture because he’s a big ol’ internet nerd and he knows how to get information buried. Now when we search, we only see this one “slip of the arm” video. In order to see any of the other times he posted dog whistles, you gotta do some digging.
His relevance goes well beyond people talking about him. We cannot pretend that Fascists just don't exist or something especially when they have a group of followers the way they do.
gentle reminder to us that "what makes sense to me, a functional and basically kind person who values democracy" is entirely different from "what makes sense to a fascist marinating in ketamine"
I'm mad that everyone keeps using his autism to excuse his behavior. I have an autistic nephew, he is pretty low functioning, and even he doesn't act like that. For all we know, Elon knows exactly what he is doing, it's wrong, but that everyone else will make excuses for him so he keeps doing it.
I haven't seen anyone do this to be fair, insane that anyone would. I will say there's a lot more nuance to the autism spectrum than just "low" or "high" functioning and common misconceptions about this are a big part of the problem.
Quick question for both of you: Where are you from? Perhaps there are language differences that explain a lot. There is a possibility that you are both right. Regional
I think we are judging Elon for uncompleted work. Everyone criticized him for changing Twitter's name to X, for example, but it's just that the change was half done. It makes a lot more sense now.
Not minimising it, just for perspective the exec orders being signed off by Twitler in the last few days are doing tangible harm to a lot of people who voted for them as well as those who didn't.
Push back of it sure, but there's more utility in attacking policies that harm MAGA voters rn.
Not easy to do when they're being disgusting but arguments on here win nowt, getting a few of them the wake TF up & see who's robbing them does more good.
Maybe don't even need to be civil, just taunt them with policies they're getting hurt by their leader might work.
Do you know how we can get a protest together with the heroic police officer who was attacked at the capitol? Is there someone who can do that? We can mobilize together. Republicans who believe in the constitution and law, Democrats who believe in law, and Police who believe in justice and law
I agree, that's the entire reason he does this sort of thing. Though he has quite successfully revealed just how cowardly the media is with their coverage. BBC refuse to call his fascist salute a fascist salute even after discussing it with several experts.
I’d like to say he has gone off the rails and has gotten dumber but then you look at his net worth increase since Election Day and for that amount plenty of Dems would suck up to the felon too.
don't disagree, at a loss for how to interact with it tho. like we GOTTA talk about the salute and make noise. he does so much that requires discussion because those things harm people. not angry at your point, just 🥲 about things in general
I don’t think this is it tbh. I think he thinks he is above ethics. Adoration isn’t about planning something to get attention. It’s just the apathy and sociopathy it takes to become a billionaire. Ego is an amazing thing.
He could be throwing people into ovens and people would come out defending him saying "Are you sure they weren't already dead? It looks like he was just helping the crematorium in his spare time". 🤦🏼♀️
Why has TChump not rolled back Emission tax credits to help American car manufacturers all MAGA should demand it immediately as it only helps Elon not America or the Car Manufacturer afterall should of been included with removing the ev tax credits. Does he get more than 250 million a year from them
It’s true. As a school employee who works on behavior plans some kids register - and + attention pretty similarly at first. If kid Elon had been on my case load he would have had “scheduled breaks” where a staff does a + game w/him at scheduled intervals till his need for attention balanced out.
Respectfully, too many people ignore the collaborative efforts of billionaires. The same day this happened, Trump passed executive orders that greenlight the implementation of lethal injection against immigrants and insists on pushing for it legally. It was distraction.
But maybe he wasn't exactly aware that this is a very sensitive theme in some countries. To him it might look fun. To others it's menacing and terrifying.
I could have expected him to go act lot of ways, but *actual* nazism was not on the list. Him supporting AfD was worrying, but that could just have been him having grievances against Germany in his twisted mind, but this just tells me there's a whole other, much more worrying, angle to it
His grandfather literally moved to South Africa because he supported apartheid. He was in politics and there were plenty of interviews about him. I'm not saying everyone believes the same as their family, but there are signs. 👀
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Which is why, sooner or later, a clash will occur
And Musk will be persona non grata.
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What a strange world we live in now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R48QxoPfA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R48QxoPfA8
That doesn't mean to feel empathy for the narcissist. Their behavior is designed to sabotage your own empathy. It's a trap.
https://www.wired.com/story/neo-nazis-love-elon-musk-nazi-like-salutes-trumps-inauguration/
Yes, he did it for attention - but there are a lot of non-nazi-affirming ways to have done that, but chose this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx1_6F-nCaw
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#Mastodon is free of editorial algorithms. Mastodon doesn't incentivize or diminish this behavior.
It may not be perfect, but it has the basics and doesn’t have an algorithm that applies engagement at all costs.
But I want to see the Hank takes that aged like milk.
Someone else defends it, saying “it's a Roman salute,” or “why should he do this?”
I say an likely response would be to beat the hell out of the first person and ask the second if they also want some.
On the internet, we answer the second person, like they made a good. Faith argument, which is something natsees use to their advantage.
Not saying we shouldn't, just keep that in mind.
As the adage goes: "If ten people sit at a table with one Yahtsee..."
Just an over reaction by the left. Obvious a nazi salute is just a joke
For example, would you you do the same with 'Donald'?
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Not a drill. Not a conspiracy. This happened.
If a foreign country had done this, it would be an act of war.
No more being Mr. nice guy for me!
#resist
Seems the one thing that nimrod can't stand is being [correctly] perceived as irrelevant.
Push back of it sure, but there's more utility in attacking policies that harm MAGA voters rn.
Maybe don't even need to be civil, just taunt them with policies they're getting hurt by their leader might work.
But one thing is certain...
He Meant To Salute.
And that IS important.
He already got rid of Ramaswamy.
He is IN the White House.
He changed legislation on automaker reporting requirements, tariffs on competition, Starlink, Lockheed Martin contracts, and more
https://youtu.be/i9pznmBooVk?si=OlcMqG0AHqOHqmy6
Just specifically of his acts 'as a nazi,' are more subtle for now, so hard to sell to the dumbs.
What we do know is he did that gesture intentionally, and I believe that is enough.
Leave it to America to allow Nazis to take over their government and fuck everyone else in the planet in the process. It’s the American way I guess
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