I’m not sure that the Trump Democrats strategy of letting the bully take their lunch money today in the hopes the bully will be nice to them tomorrow will be all that effective
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Likely not effective. But is that the main issue? Would a shutdown stop or delay Proj 25? Other than a opening a new front on the messaging war, what does a shutdown do? Especially if the "Dem led, Dem owned" effort to save my lunch money results in them picking my back pocket in the process?
It’s going to fucking delight Trump. That man only operates on vengeance & cruelty. Getting the Dems to capitulate on this is exactly what he wants. You’ll be able to feel the grossness of his smile when he crows about this. He won & as a bonus, every democrat is furious. What a great time for him
The worst thing is that we've lived through this before, we know the playbook and we damn well how this is going to play out. We're bending over for Trump and will still get blame for everything. Chuck is either stupid or senile to not see it.
Schumer actually made a thought-provoking point on Chris Hayes tonight: a government shutdown would allow Trump to close the courts. That would be a disaster, since the courts have been standing in the way of some of the Trump/Musk Regime's worst actions.
These "my Republican friend told me in secret he/she hates Trump" stories are an indicator that Dems foolishly think Republicans are still reasonable people.
Meanwhile Republicans tell their Republican friends "LOL @ my Democrat friend!".
Schumer: I just told Donald Trump, JD Vance, Elon Musk, John Thune and Mike Johnson that next time they can jam me even harder and I’ll give way again. On principle.
Okay but what’s the policy ask here? Dems have never clearly stated what they want out of a shutdown. Is it save DC by removing that insane rider? A written promise not to impound funds? Should probably know what you want before diving into this.
If they want to avoid a government shutdown at all costs it doesn't take a political genius to know next time they aren't coming for the lunch money. They will be taking their house and their car. Unreal.
We need an anti-fascist party in America. If the Democratic Party isn’t it, they need to go the way the Whigs went in the face of anti-slavery Republicans. Salvage what we can and leave the desiccated husk behind.
Even worse, they let the bully take their lunch money today while claming that by the time the bully needs more lunch money his friends will stand up to stop him 🤦
They let the bully take ALL of everyone's lunch $$ for at least the. NEXT. SIX. MONTHS.
and they think that'll win them some kindness next fucking OCTOBER? while their constituents starve, become homeless, lose their healthcare?
I'm about ready to light myself on fire in someone's fucking office.
A better position how? Giving in on this just shows the Administration they can keep doing everything they've been doing because Senate Democrats signed off on it.
Like team Trump has to explicitly illegally fire instead of legally “allowing back in”, and literally today a court ruled to re-hire employees, this couldn’t happen under a shutdown. I don’t think much of Schumer’s distraction argument.
Instead of relying on the courts, Schumer could have pressed for Republicans to vote on every single cut themselves instead of hiding behind Elon like children. Or added an amendment that placed all the firings under the DC Circuit Court since that's where DOGE is operating
But Schumer gave up it all for nothing. Literally nothing as in he traded this vote for nothing in return except a GOP bill the Administration already said they'd cut again with DOGE
It is crazy making that Schumer won’t even fight to get concessions that we all know Trump would ignore anyway. Like the answer to that situation isn’t to just cave for nothing and hope things change in the future. If your opponent is going to cheat you should not continue to play.
I agree with Schumer. I think a shutdown is worse. Both options are almost equally shitty, but a failure of imagination is how we ended up with trump. Who is to say the house won't just say "fine, you want a shutdown? Let's have a looooong shutdown" and let smelly thing continue to run unchecked.
And with the legislative force behind a CR, we at least have a shread of a chance for the courts to be a stop against the regime's worst impulses. I know SCOTUS sucks ass but 5-4 is still possible now and then.
He is only pretending to have the power of the purse right now. It's unconstitutional. He knows that - when Obama issued a few executive orders, djt had many angry rants about it.
This CR formally allows him to act like Congress. It's really, REALLY bad for America.
Their strategy is to pretend to resist, to make it *look* as if they're resisting, to do the absolute in resisting, like Wile E. Coyote punching a clock in a Looney Tunes cartoon. The Dems will not save us, period.
I’ve been calling them Vichy Democrats, but seeing how they don’t seem to have knowledge of history, they’d probably understand the term Trump Democrats much better.
When they hear “Vichy” they probably think that’s some wine Trump is going to put a tariff on. Then Schumer can tweet about how high the prices are during the Final Four.
Exactly! Giving in because “it could get worse” is collaboration.
It’s time to FIGHT how does he not know this?
Also, Trump puts everyone in lose-lose situations. Where are the D strategists who know how to find the third option or do ANYTHING to get a step ahead of them?
It's cool; Schumer is certain by September the fever will break and all the Republicans will be ready to vote against Trump rather than September being when Trump is exercising "can deploy Seal Team 6 against critics" his lawyers outlined last year.
Or being over worried about MAGA blaming Dems. Duh they will. FOX will, Newsmax etc. They will and fuck them. MAGA are not gettable so Dems need to stop caring what they think about their decisions. MAGA could give a shit about trying to court me as a voter.
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These "my Republican friend told me in secret he/she hates Trump" stories are an indicator that Dems foolishly think Republicans are still reasonable people.
Meanwhile Republicans tell their Republican friends "LOL @ my Democrat friend!".
and they think that'll win them some kindness next fucking OCTOBER? while their constituents starve, become homeless, lose their healthcare?
I'm about ready to light myself on fire in someone's fucking office.
He said “they’re 100% going to take our lunch money in either case, but keeping the government open puts us in a better position to fight it.”
You can disagree but it’s important to represent his case accurately.
Overall I’m leaning toward Schumer is wrong.
Every Dem should write a message tonight before the vote tomorrow.
https://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/message-chuck
This CR formally allows him to act like Congress. It's really, REALLY bad for America.
It’s time to FIGHT how does he not know this?
Also, Trump puts everyone in lose-lose situations. Where are the D strategists who know how to find the third option or do ANYTHING to get a step ahead of them?
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