yea man i don’t think these people like this one trying to dox me should be allowed to exist online at all, in any capacity. this is purely anti-social behavior. they are mentally unwell
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When the "perspective" in question is the same old "dur, dur, dur" that they consistently regurgitate, I think we can all do without it. And that's before we even get into the threats, doxing, etc.
It's a massive DISINFORMATION campaign run by foreign trolls whose aim is to destroy us from within by stirring up so much hatred that the divide becomes irreparable. THAT is the danger, people should TRY to keep in mind that MOST (not all) of these people aren't really evil, just badly misinformed.
Accounts like this are getting banned, but it's definitely taking longer than it did a month ago. Bluesky is still ramping up its moderation efforts, and they're lagging behind the massive influx in newcomers.
No I think it's our place. They worked really hard to make X the shittiest cesspool of their viewpoints imaginable, I'd hate for all that effort to go to waste. They can stay there.
NO, no one said you have to be civil to ANY of the MAGA ASSHATS who come here and post attacks or lies, just those who may have voted for tRump but aren't hardcore MAGA. Yeah, it may be difficult to tell but if someone simply posts conservative ideas we should let them if they do so respectfully.
That’s bullshit.
It’s not another perspective, that’s ignorant. All they do I lie and distort
We don’t need ‘alternate’ facts. You must be a maga apologist
No shit, that's just TOS. It is no coincidence that these mouthbreathers and the ones mark would have us discuss the merits of trans people existing with are ideologically aligned
You're right. They are aligned and it isn't a coincidence. I think Mark is a centrist, and means well in general, but he's wrong about the potential value to be found in certain perspectives.
"as long as it's civil" is fucking rich. There is no civil way to talk aboutass deportation, the topic itself is violent and hateful, no matter how polite the rhetoric
Yeah I get that different viewpoints should we welcomed as long as people respect each other while discussing them but I think at this point being a Trump supporter/MAGA cult member is inherently anti-civil
Something I've seen argued is folks feel better to allow idiots speak so folks can fight back, (saw that with Andrew tat being banned on twitter.) They seem to believe outright ban makes things worse
Do wonder if any study has been done to say which is better
That though, yeah no ban from the net
That’s what the billionaire doesn’t get. If people started spouting that “perspective” at one of his parties, would he want them to stay so everyone gets a say, or would he have that person ejected or even arrested for being deranged and potentially violent?
It's NOT the hardcore MAGA people we need to talk to, there's literally MILLIONS who voted for tRump who AREN'T MAGA, just deluded/mislead and even though theyre conservatives, that in and of itself DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE ENEMY! Liberals and conservatives CAN AND HAVE worked together in the past.
I hate being a little cliché but I notice whenever I see any stupid fuckwit defending magas it's always a white guy. Of course the people not affected by bigotry are gonna ask the rest of us to be nice and hold hands with the fuckers trying to take our rights away, so predictable.
Even if someone wasn't trying to dox you/making rape threats. People who want minorities dead should at the very least get serious treatment and at worst be locked up.
People really need to stop trying to make everything online a 4chan style anonymous hellscape with zero consequences. “Twitter and facebook are unusable so let’s do it to Bluesky too!” How about fuck off.
NO you Big Dumb Moron (HEY it is your name lofl) no one said to be polite to any hardcore MAGA type who post that kind of shite, BUT there certainly are people who post conservative views who shouldn't be attacked and ostracized simply for not agreeing with our POV, I think that's the talking point.
BUT NOT EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP ARE MAGA! That's part of the point, there IS a difference between hardcore MAGA and others who just voted for tRump out of stupidity, lol, but that's still very different.
Sure the majority coming over NOW are largely MAGA goon squad looking to F things up but
The OG post implying that those types of users are civil in the first place is certainly a choice. It was the lack of civility and constant brigading from them that made me join Bluesky in the first place.
Yeah and lets not do this shit, lets not even engage with people doing this dumb shit cause it's the same thing a lot of them did before.
"But what about good faith and understanding" nah that left when they voted for man found liable for sexual assault, and friendly with pedophiles, fuck yall
STOP with the "privileged" crap, sounds like MAGA "elitist" bs.
Cuban is making a point (although I'll admit badly considering the example given) that we aren't going to win this by pitting our angry vitriol against theirs, it hasn't worked so far so lets try a different tact and try civility.
The right wing has reached unprecedented levels of brazen hatred and he is not one of their primary targets. Privileged is just the word we have for that. It sounds like that to you because you've let right wing propaganda poison the well.
Just noting that we shouldn't behave like them and label people simply based on privilege, wealth or position. While yes, there's FAR more bad than good in those ranks, there are still good and Mark Cuban is definitely one of those. You may vehemently disagree with him but don't label him as "them"
Where is that comic where that one guy is defending that other guy after he screams that he grooms minors or smth because that is exactly what is going on here
Paradox of tolerance. The idea that certain groups deserve to have their rights stripped away shouldn't even be entertained, much less discussed in a 'civil' manner.
I gotta agree on raving asshats like this, I think Mark's WAAAYYYY off the mark on this kind of shite, but I do believe that many are blocking, or worse putting people ON BLOCK LISTS just because they express conservative views or get argumentative with some angry liberal (happens ;?).
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No I think it's our place. They worked really hard to make X the shittiest cesspool of their viewpoints imaginable, I'd hate for all that effort to go to waste. They can stay there.
It’s not another perspective, that’s ignorant. All they do I lie and distort
We don’t need ‘alternate’ facts. You must be a maga apologist
The other side:
Do wonder if any study has been done to say which is better
That though, yeah no ban from the net
But civility is overrated anyway
What's the point of having civil discourse with someone who sees you as subhuman and wants you to either die or suffer
Just "her job is legislation, standing up for herself is bad actually"
Then immediately afterward Mace started the push for nationwide bans. They'll soon use her capitulation against all trans people.
Thus they should not be welcome anywhere.
Report and block is my motto.
I'm sorry you have to deal with that shit.
Sure the majority coming over NOW are largely MAGA goon squad looking to F things up but
"But what about good faith and understanding" nah that left when they voted for man found liable for sexual assault, and friendly with pedophiles, fuck yall
Cuban is making a point (although I'll admit badly considering the example given) that we aren't going to win this by pitting our angry vitriol against theirs, it hasn't worked so far so lets try a different tact and try civility.
Conservatives: I want you to die.
Liberals: Can't we compromise? How about we just torture trans people a little bit?
He'd obviously agree people like that should be banned.
"C'mon guys it won't be that bad!"