I suggest attacking his followers that are completely unlike him. Jesus himself, as we know him, was rad....so no need to attack him. Attack the hypocrites and bigots that follow him instead. They're the real problem.
(And no, this isn't coming from a religious person.)
Thats not Jesus. Thats organized religion. Huge difference. Jesus would be horrified if he saw how they used his words to control people, gain power and profit
In college a travelling Catholic priest spoke to our class and claimed that was probably due to a rare genetic condition. He was supposedly a very serious and acclaimed Christian scholar, too.
🤜So would I...
Socialized countries like our beloved Canada, France and Spain have proven themselves to be, In leaps and bounds! Better countries to be from, and to live in!
Then the shit hole America's turning into!
🤜Hell... Mexico's become a "much" better place to be! The way things are goin. Before long, will climbing over and under the wall to get down there! trump doesn't get it! The reason border crossings have lessened. Is for the same reason nobody else wants to come here!
... And always has been in many ways! How many republicans are in our country? All they've "ever" done. Is fuck us up! Tear us down! And make us look like complete fucking idiots throughout the world... America! Always has been, and always will be. A "shithole" as long as republicans are around!🤛
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It was always a delight seeing this posted on the other place with so many people like UltraMAGAUnvaxxedPatriot45 liking it and replying “IN JESUS NAME AMEN”
That's where the cackle comes from. Just seeing them responding like that and me not even realizing that's Charles Manson
To be fair, it's not DaVinci's boyfriend. At least you know the painting I'm referring to
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Every sect gets to declare their own specifics for what "Christian" means to them. And each gets to proclaim only their version is the One True Faith and all others are wrong. Until Christians own that and deal with it, nothing will change.
I'm...amused (I guess?) by those who missed my point completely and instead launched into a defense of their particular sect's flavor of what Christian values mean to them.
Have you... have you even picked up a Bible before?
If you think Jesus would be a prosperity pastor you're either an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about or you're being deliberately disingenuous.
Formal Bible studies at an acclaimed school all the way through college, so...yeah.
I just see it and examine it using the tools I was taught from a very different perspective than you do. You might try the "other perspective" thing, it's enlightening.
- moneylenders incident
- Zaccheus
- eye of the needle parable
- the entirety of the gathering of the disciples
- give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's
Those're just off the top of my head. What's your evidence Jesus would have been Joel Osteen?
Are you talking about the Parable of the Moneylender, where Jesus is on board with moneylending? Or are you repeating the medieval antisemitic gloss on the Temple "cleansing" episode (which doesn't include moneylenders in the text)?
These people have Christianity wrong; that doesn't mean Jesus is wrong. Read the words in red (His words) in the New Testament to understand the difference.
Who knows what Jesus would be… if he was republican… well he’d be gun toting and kicking a man down — get a job lazy slob. He’d cheering for Israel and getting rid of anyone that wasn’t white. No woke for MAGA Jesus.
i think we have plenty of evidence indicating that he did exist, no? there WAS a jesus of nazareth; the debate comes more when you start adding miracles and manifesting bread + wine from thin air into the mix
The historical Jesus was a poor day laborer from a poor family and a self-taught biblical scholar and teacher. He couldn’t stand how the bullying Romans and their religious enablers treated the people. Today he would be an immigrant construction laborer. He’d call out a rich pastor in a $500 suit.
‘A self taught biblical scholar’? How did he learn to read? The first person to talk about Jesus was Saul of Tarsus. Saul saw him ina ‘vision’ 75 years after Jesus ‘died’.The whole born Dec 25 to virgin mother refugeew/male escort,giving birth in stable w/3 wise men following a star is ZEUS.
He quoted and debated the old scriptures with the hypocritical leaders of his day. The historical Jesus of Nazarus was not born in Dec 25 in Bethlehem. That was made up to win over pagans to Christianity. Paul in the Bible may have been 1st, but the Bible is a collection of incomplete writings.
Jesus was a real person independently verified by two ancient historians, and reverified by modern historians. But the myths and miracles surrounding him were made up to suit various religious factions over the millennia.
He would be calling out the current US administration the same way he called out the Romans of his day and likely deported to an El Salvadorian prison or killed by angry MAGA mob
I feel like if Jesus was alive today, what he'd be is pissed. Like, "I gave you basic instructions on how to be nice to each other, and you Crusaded HOW MANY TIMES!?!?"
Hell didn't exist as such until at least the 2nd century CE. It was first described in 'The Apocalypse of Peter', a doc that was NOT incorporated into the Bible by the Nicene Councils starting in 381 CE but likely had some influence in later writings. Theologically it was a purely human invention.
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If Jesus was alive today he’d be living in a constant fear of being killed by a drone or missile strike from Israeli aggression in the West Bank. Also he’d be under apartheid.
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(And no, this isn't coming from a religious person.)
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Socialized countries like our beloved Canada, France and Spain have proven themselves to be, In leaps and bounds! Better countries to be from, and to live in!
Then the shit hole America's turning into!
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To be fair, it's not DaVinci's boyfriend. At least you know the painting I'm referring to
Every sect gets to declare their own specifics for what "Christian" means to them. And each gets to proclaim only their version is the One True Faith and all others are wrong. Until Christians own that and deal with it, nothing will change.
He was basically sleeping on everyone elses couch and creating a hippie commune
That why mega churches and the prosperity gospel are so stupid, they literally have nothing to do with Jesus 🤷♂️
If you think Jesus would be a prosperity pastor you're either an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about or you're being deliberately disingenuous.
Formal Bible studies at an acclaimed school all the way through college, so...yeah.
I just see it and examine it using the tools I was taught from a very different perspective than you do. You might try the "other perspective" thing, it's enlightening.
> thinks Jesus would have encouraged the moneylenders at thr Temple instead of kicking their asses
- Zaccheus
- eye of the needle parable
- the entirety of the gathering of the disciples
- give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's
Those're just off the top of my head. What's your evidence Jesus would have been Joel Osteen?
Oh yeah "vibes"
Fuck, if you're going to bash the modern church, use Jesus as an example. The disparity is more shocking than any misinformed BS you can cook up.
the myth of Jesus evolved from accounts written 30 years after his execution by Romans and then run through a filter 300 years after
so ... there's that
But had he existed, he would have been A BROWN-SKINNED PALESTINIAN.
Not a pasty-faced, blue eyed poster boy for racists.
Word of mouth written 150 years afterwards doesn't count.
Try again.
In any case, reading Bishop John Shelby Spong many years ago opened my eyes. It all made sense afterwards
https://whosoever.org/bishop-john-shelby-spong-rescuing-jesus-from-religion-interview/
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