Interesting history from JD Vance here, maybe I hallucinated the 1,000 or so non-American NATO ally troops who died in Afghanistan. www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-... - ThreadSky

shashj.bsky.social • 3 hours ago

Interesting history from JD Vance here, maybe I hallucinated the 1,000 or so non-American NATO ally troops who died in Afghanistan.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-says-giving-us-economic-interest-ukraine-is-security-guarantee-2025-03-04/

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frc-u005f.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Vance is living in a world of his own. He wouldn't be Trump's VP if he wasn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan

dcamdupe.bsky.social•3 hours ago

And the non-American, non-NATO allied deaths: 41 Australians killed.

annabusybee.bsky.social•3 hours ago

They're rewriting history as we speak. Soon: "No country has ever helped the US. Why should we help them?". 😡

fieldmontgomery.bsky.social•1 hour ago

It works for Russia.

See "Great Patriotic War".

mobydog.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Yeah, cuz we can only have compassion for or provide help to another country if they're paying us. That's who these people are.

colinelves.bsky.social•2 hours ago

American Soldiers who died in wars were losers and suckers according to Trump - I don’t think anyone should be surprised he and his team feel the same way about his allies’ fallen.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

scotgirl72.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The more he talks the more it can destroy him in the next president election.

sciencesloth.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Maybe JD forgot that Denmark lost more troops per capita than we did in Afghanistan. We are the only country to ever invoke Article 5 as well.

eviloverlordactual.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Yeah, and the “collation of the willing” in Iraq had our allies as well.

fieldmontgomery.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Coming from a guy whose biggest risk during his service came from the office AC unit cutting out, that's hilarious.

jenonymous.bsky.social•3 hours ago

VP Couch Commando sure knows how to win friends and influence people. https://bsky.app/profile/theguardian.com/post/3ljjws2knbj2w

dqt.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Is “Knob” Aussie slang for couch?

jooliepie.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Nope, it’s slang for 🍆😉

klastommy.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Dumb as a door knob. And they are really dumb.

diannamjames.bsky.social•3 hours ago

That was before that enraged teen was born.

rassbariaw.bsky.social•3 hours ago

timfernholz.bsky.social•2 hours ago

British soldiers were fighting in Iraq during Vance's deployment there!

leedennis.bsky.social•24 minutes ago

Yes, but he worked in a press office. "The press" are always the last ones to catch a clue.

dereremit.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Speaking about being grateful…

shashj.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I might also have hallucinated the 60+ French deaths & the 1,000+ wounded in their Sahel campaigns. These must have been fake wars, as opposed to the real wars that Vance is referring to.

vnoobserver72.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Assuming a hell exists, it cannot be hot or miserable enough for the collection of shitstains that are in charge of the American govt these days.

davidwhitewood.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Don't forget Iraq

gilberttabby.bsky.social•1 hour ago

But Vance is an expert. He saw the videos.

shashj.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Some random countries that haven't fought a war in 30 or 40 years.

tasciorex.bsky.social•1 hour ago

It just shows the level of intellect in the White House at the moment . Eg very low.

pfriesen.bsky.social•1 hour ago

The first 4 of those Canadian deaths in Afghanistan were caused by ANG pilots getting trigger happy

gilberttabby.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Please don't forget the 41 Australian soldiers who died in Afghanistan.

infosdesmilis.bsky.social•1 hour ago

You forgot our French soldiers. 90 KIA. Hundreds wounded.

shashj.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Vance is now backpedalling furiously, I see. Only the UK & France had proposed anything approaching scale of 20k troops, so I don't see how he would be referring to anyone else. But let's take smaller states, then. Denmark & Estonia took same casualties per capita as America in Afghanistan.

balmachreuchie.bsky.social•1 hour ago

He deserves to have his nose rubbed in shit

bardolino.bsky.social•1 hour ago

If the American media weren't so terrified of the regime they would simply ask, " So which countries do you mean then?"

chris.sigint.life•1 hour ago

Backpedaling by calling people liars. Cute.

phoenixwomanmn.bsky.social•1 hour ago

That's his standard move.

fellat.bsky.social•1 hour ago

This idiot forgot that european aren't dumb.

gilberttabby.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Australian PM today all but committed troops to a Ukraine peacekeeping force. They're not chopped liver, you know!

grahamwalkernrg.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Sweden I guess?

larsson.org•1 hour ago

>>Nordbat 2 enter the chat<<

But it was in fact 30 years ago.

grahamwalkernrg.bsky.social•56 minutes ago

In fact contributed to ISAF in Afghanistan, NATO in Libya and ongoing operations in Mali, förlåt mig, Sverige, jag var inte bekant med ert spel

theenormousroom.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Nice suit though

paxlusitanica.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Exactly. Vance insulted a lot more countries than France and the UK. At America's behest, Danish soldiers bled and fought for years in Afghanistan - our most extensive military engagement since the Dano-Prussian War of 1864.

https://bsky.app/profile/hanstino.bsky.social/post/3ljfi2nditk2f

shashj.bsky.social•1 hour ago

US: Europe has to stand on its own feet
Europe: proposes to stand on own feet
US: no, not like that.

phillyfrog.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Sez the PR corporal with the typewriter.

vnoobserver72.bsky.social•52 minutes ago

The fact that Vance is a cosplaying POG probably is core to his sense of grievances and slurs against both our (hopefully not former) allies and the Ukrainians more generally. He knows they are braver, more worthy of respect than he can ever be, and it fucking eats at him and fuels his resentment.

pguin.bsky.social•1 hour ago

It’s time to move on from America, leave them to their lies and culture wars. We’ve got more important things to do.

paulcavey.bsky.social•1 hour ago

A basic tension in US policy probably at least since Kennedy. On one hand, US wants Europe to do more, which would mean Europe more independent and less US influence. On other hand, US wants to have lots of influence, which would mean discouraging Europe from doing too much so staying dependent.

bbolger.bsky.social•7 minutes ago

Completely correct.

They are going to like a rearmed and more independent Europe much less than they think.

zachrid.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Bullies panic their bullying isn't working as they intended.

traianus90.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Vance has truly turned “argumentative whack-a-mole” into a craft.

mapschen.bsky.social•1 hour ago

US: You are with me or against me
Europe: Against

soderbrod.nafofellas.com•1 hour ago

They just wish Europe would butt out as it's messing up their love-in with russian terrorists. The full capitulation of Ukraine and a huge pay-day in rare earth minerals is all they want.

michelyohann.bsky.social•57 minutes ago

And in the same way, if we do spend our "share" of the burden in defence, they'll come up with a new rule. It will have to be 30% (or more) from the US industry, then we will have to enforce their definition of "free" speech, deregulate social media... and more and more...

oscarromeo68.bsky.social•1 hour ago

nicolekidmansnose.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Some clown shit.

stefanhar.bsky.social•57 minutes ago

That happens because they play 4D chess with checkers and poker with pokemon cards.
Never accept demands of bullies! They just want more if you accept.

chienrouge.bsky.social•1 hour ago

I presume he is talking about the American army that won in 3 days in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

xavier-s.bsky.social•1 hour ago

*deploys "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner aboard USS Abraham Lincoln*

benrobins.bsky.social•2 hours ago

He exposes his own dishonest motives

They were clearly expecting Europe to balk at providing troops, so they could pile the pressure on Zellenskyy.

Starmer & Macron called their bluff

So now he's clumsily trying to shift the narrative, that Europe are not serious

whirledbizarre.bsky.social•54 minutes ago

What’s with the time stamp on his post? Is he set to Russian time?

fraser119.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Vance is a clown!

johndalton1108.bsky.social•1 hour ago

If Ukrainians have any little wisdom left they should use ProRussians in their country to negotiate surrender. US will force them to surrender in return for favors for itself and will make Ukraine suffer. Europe will only give speeches and statements

torbenandersen.bsky.social•1 hour ago

The thing that hurts US Americans the most is not beling liked 🙄

Yankee Go Home...

robertoartellini.bsky.social•53 minutes ago

We need an EU version, soon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIYAAoaG8ms

hlaferrara1.bsky.social•1 hour ago

UKR keep the minerals

Fuck trump. Fuck vance. Fuck elon. Fuck putin

edstrohmaier.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Battlefield experience 👇🏻

thurberteam.bsky.social•1 hour ago

The end of Pax Americana is going to be something that Americans will not like, & it will not be cheap for America. Vance is a cretin.

skyla50.bsky.social•26 minutes ago

Like Vance who was a ‘photo journalist’ when he was in the military..🤦‍♀️

scavamungus.bsky.social•36 minutes ago

pretty sure Trump's been looking at the US military and thinking "how do we profit from this"

barleyscotch.bsky.social•1 hour ago

They don't call all the shots like they think they do outside their own borders. Idiots.

cdwilsher.bsky.social•1 hour ago

UK, Germany, France, and Italy fought in Afghanistan. UK, Poland, Spain, Denmark and others fought in Iraq.

kiciacat.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Poland fought in Afghanistan too. As did many others.

macinthemiddle.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Some rich folks never came across the fact that actions have consequences.

paddleonthesea.bsky.social•1 hour ago

They only want us as vasalle. 🤷

morralexand.bsky.social•1 hour ago

"don't you know we want you to surrender?"

fieldmontgomery.bsky.social•1 hour ago

The interviewer should then have asked "tell me about the battlefield experience of your boss. Or yourself."

fraser119.bsky.social•1 hour ago

I spotted a typo in Vance’s statement it should have read - “I’m absurdly dishonest”

bruscott1.bsky.social•40 minutes ago

A lot of sacrifice by Canada too.

laurent-a.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Fuck vance!

0drat.bsky.social•1 hour ago

How can the King, the head of the armed forces meet Trump now?

shuffleosint.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Ukraine also sent troops to Afghanistan. But obviously that won't count...

theenormousroom.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Clearly not as much as Russia’s contribution, which was to pay terrorists to kill American soldiers.

solidphil.bsky.social•1 hour ago

LOL

frankexchange.bsky.social•55 minutes ago

But has he thanked the UK and France, though?

remeor.bsky.social•1 hour ago

What is always to remember with NATO members, is that only one country activated article 5 to get help from allies so far and it's the USA.

stefan8315.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Vance is the biggest coward living on earth. A fu.. hillbilly taking his orders from Moscow.

cartersemple.bsky.social•2 hours ago

He is a real bastard that JD is

mrhappyonbsky.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Also it's much better to have 20,000 friends from random countries help Ukraine than backstabbing former allies who rob your resources.

kumasarrk.bsky.social•2 hours ago

The guy is trailer trash...comes from a position of insecurity and inferiority....it explains the disdain he has for Europeans.

moodystarbuck.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Ey don't insult trailer trash

kumasarrk.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Actually that's true...trailer trash is probably better than JD

debbie156.bsky.social•1 hour ago

He’s a garbage human.

stanic042.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Trailer park white trash...perfect description for jd vance

raycar.bsky.social•1 hour ago

In their pursuit to MAGA, they have accelerated it's decline.

solidphil.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Then there's the country JD is from, which hasn't WON a war of any significance in 80 years.

curatorian.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Ah yes, the Danes. Seem to remember the US administration treating them with nothing but courtesy recently too....

jean-salvati.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I doubt Vance ever heard of Serval or Barkhane, let alone ISAF.

tft40.bsky.social•2 hours ago

But he knows about war because has read the stories about war… just as know about 🇺🇦 because he has read the stories

ajanmies.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Yeah, the only real war, according to Vance, seems to be the one against the democracy.

luxzen.eu•3 hours ago

Vance is a complete nutcase, if he wasn't the vice-president, we couldn't take him serious. Is there no-one left in the Pentagon, Senat, or anywhere in the US government who can talk some commonsense in these people?

welshrarebit.bsky.social•3 hours ago

If there still are such people around they won’t be there for long.

jgustavsson.bsky.social•3 hours ago

You know Vance knows best, he saw the videos and read about it on the Internet.

sydbarrett99.bsky.social•2 hours ago

How quick can you burn all bridges? Six weeks. The US is now a pariah state and they are wallowing in it.

moronthislater.bsky.social•3 hours ago

You have to remember that Vance was a little boy when this happened and that his world view is formed from the perspective of an ignorant little boy who pretends to be a man.

jolk.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Utterly distasteful!

olympicdane.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Vance is a despicable traitor

midshipnews.bsky.social•3 hours ago

And when French troops save US troop in Africa On 4 October 2017.

josephgfrancis.bsky.social•3 hours ago

All they’re doing is making sure that next time those 1,000 will be Americans

in-zeus-i-trust.bsky.social•2 hours ago

debbie156.bsky.social•1 hour ago

My daughter’s friend died in Afghanistan. We have the most ignorant administration in all of history.

davidjorgonson.bsky.social•1 hour ago

You know who actually hasn't fought a war in decades? China. Vance still says China is a formidable threat.

mrcole332.bsky.social•50 minutes ago

Didnt a British Royal prince fight in Afghanistan?

allymac18.bsky.social•27 minutes ago

Nobody including the US have fought a war like Ukraine since Korea this is 2 conventional armies facing each over.

robsonp90.bsky.social•3 hours ago

He should be more thankful and show more respekt.

jasonadamson.bsky.social•2 hours ago

So a country can only offer a legitimate security guarantee if it regularly goes to war?

ginadirenzo-coffey.bsky.social•23 minutes ago

Vance has learned from Trump that if you just lie and people here one time, some of them are dumb enough to believe it. Then if you keep repeating it more will fall online.

turkued1.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Can we do the whole airplane into skyscraper thing again? I want to practice my who gives a f&&& look.

norfolkadi.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Disgusting 🫣

ldw1.bsky.social•2 hours ago

https://bsky.app/profile/shashj.bsky.social/post/3ljkgeannz22l

randstranger.bsky.social•3 hours ago

As far as I can tell, the only nations the US now treats as friendly are Russia, Hungary and Israel.

The Gulf states seem to have been granted neutral status, provided they keep the billions flowing, don't act against Israel and don't get any notions about democracy (not that they would).

randstranger.bsky.social•3 hours ago

What annoys me most is this is presented as hard-nosed realism. It's anything but, it's performative cruelty to satisfy the psychological need for performative dominance that both Trump and his base has - long-term costs be damned.

jurgenpanzer.bsky.social•3 hours ago

100% this.

zimses.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Afghanistan, Danish count: 37 fallen, 7 died otherwise and 241 wounded. My little brother came home with no bodily harm. Did you say thank you?

splitrailfence.bsky.social•1 hour ago

You didn't hallucinate them. I, too, saw and remember when our NATO allies stood with us.
Those of us who don't forget are unicorns.
It is why we're where we are.
Hitler always proclaimed that the power of the masses to forget is enormous.

morralexand.bsky.social•1 hour ago

now he's gaslighting everyone that he didn't mean the UK or France by "some random country", even though those are the only two countries to have publicly committed to providing peacekeeping troops

scharlatanka.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I've been really hoping for a reporter to ask where the allied nations should send the bill for Afghanistan. Maybe someone from Canada?

scharlatanka.bsky.social•3 hours ago

They truly seem to believe there is a magical forcefield around US interests. Wild. That, or they've already made a DEAL with Putin that he'll go around their mining operations when he invades next.

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