To those who still call fox hunting a ‘tradition’: it’s nothing but barbaric cruelty. Real tradition is respecting nature, not destroying it. Time to enforce the ban and end the excuses!
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Fox-hunting is both a tradition and barbaric cruelty. I can't believe anyone still does it. It's because it's tradition (and some of the toffs enjoy it, and it's seen as part of the national culture like bullfighting) that it is difficult to eradicate.
as a ‘murrican the notion of hunting foxes is wild to me since they’re not perceived as any kind of threat. now we do awful things in hunting coyotes, wolves, etc, but it’s a straight up slaughter without the snobby dress up and horses…!
It's a shitty tradition, just like the Japanese killing Dolphins, or shooting storks in Africa, bullfighting...
There are many filthy traditions that should have been eradicated long ago.
Beautiful portrait photo of Fox!🦊 Fox hunting is a sick cruel disgusting event!Lots of disgraceful things have been done as traditional that doesn’t make it right!
In some areas, it does serve a purpose for population control. I don't hunt, but have looked into the bear hunt in which the reason is numbers and to control population and manage the eco system. Same with certain areas that do wolf hunts, they get overpopulated and put other species in danger.
Don’t get me started about states that allow dogs for deer hunting. 😡 I’m lookin at YOU Virginia. Hunters run their dogs through a woods while they wait on the other side for the deer to run out… as they sit in their PU, with their gun, staying warm and drinking coffee.
PUSSIES!
I've been saying the same thing for years, it's a cruel, senseless inhumane violent act. There's a difference between hunting for food than killing for sport. If there was any way that the animals could kill those hunters, then that would reduce the amount of hunting by 99%.
Real tradition should mean, do not introduce species into an environment whereby that species (foxes) are responsible for the extinction of some of Australia's unique fauna. Having said that #BanFoxHunting where they 'naturally' live. Cheers 🫡
Any hunting for sport is cruel and barbaric. I don’t give a shit about any tradition here, it’s murder for sick people’s enjoyment. Yes we eat animals, it’s not the same. Ban all sport hunting, let’s behave like civilized people and respect the difference in survival vs senseless killing.
why would anyone hunt an animal they're not even gonna eat?
there are some people in the world who still have to hunt to eat, but this is some bullshit here.
Slavery, child labor, colonialism, institutionalized racism, and many other abhorrent practices were part of our culture for long enough to arguably be considered "traditional" as well. That didn't make them ethical or moral then, and certainly doesn't make them so now. Fox-hunting is no different.
I don’t think it has anything to do with tradition. Having been in a position where I was able to observe many of those old landed gentry types, I would say the majority have it up decades ago, as barbaric and overly expensive - even if many felt the cruelty was just to their horses. I think modern
Hunters are city boys who have bought their country pile and are cosplaying at being lords of the manor. There are also a large number of them who enjoy it for its ability to offend people. They enjoy the feeling of power in doing something that disgusts everybody else, but the law defends their
Right to. If they lived in council estates they’d be draping their homes in St George’s flags and keeping vicious dogs. Unable to be liked, and weak minded, they chose to offend to get themselves attention. At school they probably ate worms to get attention from the other kids. Causing offence makes
Them feel alive. Whether it is having their meetup at a village green, or renting a hall for their hunt ball, the exhilaration of being in a gang is much higher than the killing stuff. They are not well people
I live in the woods and have an amazing view to observe nature. I can attest to animals being sentient creatures who experience emotions and communicate with each other more effectively than humans do.
'they' only hunt the fox, because 'they' had slaughtered everything larger already ffs 🤬🤬🤬
My ambition, win lottery, mine the areas where hunts ride, send them all to hell
Welp, I'll be taking this beautiful picture. Thank you for sharing if you have an issue with me using it randomly then i will not use it as there are pictures everywhere and its not even watermarked.
Traditions are meant to grow and change, well some are immutable but you learn to accept and make it work. Killing serves the purpose to quell the population. Are they really that much of a menace? More than a plague? You do you. Educate this one if you want to have a civil Public discussion. ❤️🔥🦁
fox hunting is cruel and pointless, but denying that it is also a tradition (in some parts) will not help your case. tell the truth, face the truth. that is the way to achieve your goal
They get dressed up in their tunics and gallop of hooting and hollering, blowing horns, and chasing wild foxes with packs of dogs who catch a fox and rip it’s body to death for entertainment
Fox hunters could more accurately be called "fox chasers." They don't HUNT foxes; they just kind of chase them around for a little while. If the fox doesn't want to play, it goes to ground -- but a lot of foxes DO want to play! They're bright and mischievous, and they enjoy befooling the hounds.
Me too. What is wrong with people that think scaring an animal is good fun. Let’s reverse this. Let them run for their life, while someone chases them meaning to do them harm when they catch you. You do that, you are imprisoned. Why is doing that to an animal acceptable.
The barbaric act should be stopped.
Traditions should evolve to reflect modern ethical standards. Fox hunting is cruel, causing unnecessary suffering to animals for sport. Respect for wildlife and humane treatment should take precedence over preserving outdated and inhumane practices.
Was slavery a tradition? Or bear-baiting, witch-burning, child chimney sweeps, the death penalty, laws against homosexuality, chemical castration, no votes for women, etc? All “traditional”, but now gone. Fair to guess most who hunt would like to bring back all the above, too. “Vermin control”?😂😂
Vermin control is the only real reason. They are an introduced pest here and take chickens and pets.
Releasing a captive fox just for your dogs to chase is barbaric though.
Fox hunting is part of their social way of life. It has absolutely nothing to do with vermin control. You don’t need a red coat and symbolic paraphernalia to control vermin. It’s a cover to obscure the disgusting nature of their obsession with cruelty. Don’t be fooled by the nonsense they spout.
If it has never been a part of your culture, it's hard to see how this tradition endures. The whole endeavor looks dated and foolish. Does everyone wear a doublet and snack on marzipan? Dumb.
Worst I ever saw was someone's web page complaining that grey foxes weren't as fun to kill as reds, and then went on to say they thought the foxes liked being hunted and wanted that to happen.
...like, seriously? You're gonna victim-blame a wild animal for your own desire to kill it?
Not disagreeing with the sentiment, but surely there are far more important issues for our planet and wildlife than possible pockets of illegal fox-hunting? eg climate change - and the UK govt subsidising fossil fuel duty while increasing rail and bus fares...???
Why can’t we focus on multiple issues at once? Yes, there are multiple problems with the world today. But we should be able to multitask and look at it all simultaneously. At the very least, we should have enough of us to divide attention and resources appropriately.
Could not agree more. Sentient being deserve respect and protection from the subhumans who pump up their limp weenies by killing beauty and what they fail to appreciate as part of the chain of life that connects us all as living beings
Came across the Raby Hunt while out walking. One of the smug bastards in a red coat actually waved at me. I waved back✌️✌️ and called him a murderous c*nt. He looked surprised that a peasant would dare challenge him
Also, traditions change, we let some things go and start new traditions. For me and my husband, Thursday night is omelette night. I did not grow up with omelette night. Fox hunting is barbaric, let it go.
Keep speaking until more of us are listening. Those animals are nothing more than beautiful wild small dogs. They should be left in peace unless it’s for the health of the population.
You can understand the history if you're familiar with the phrase, "Fox in the henhouse". They're predators and I'm pretty sure that's why they were hunted to begin with. That said, I don't know that they present such a threat anymore.
Public hanging was a tradition but we banned that.
Earlier menstruating women were not allowed to enter the kitchen or touch any utensils used for cooking. That doesn’t happen anymore either.
It's not that simple!
In many regions fox population exploded because of rabies vaccine was distributed in long period of time (like meat drops from planes).
Hunters often don't want to hunt foxes, but they are obligated do so, because overgrown fox population become a thread for the ecosystem.
I've said in many regions. In my country fox population is increasing.
While I don't support hunting. It's essential to control balance in ecosystem.
Fox population that isn't reduced by rabies has to be controller by humans.
Without it, small prey will extinct.
Even if there was an increase somewhere there would be a cull not a load of upper class arseholes cheering while a fox is chased for hours and ripped apart by dogs.
It wasn't stated that it is about UK.
Anyway in my country hunters are mostly low to middle-class arseholes. Most of upper class people despise hunting where I live.
However we have to balance the ecosystem. I would love better solutions, but for time being hunting can be a necessity.
Animal torture!!!! Culture & tradition was also flogging black slaves, chain them up on the boats over, put psych female patients in ice cold baths to cool down hysteria (after rape/abuse etc), lock in disobedient wives, marry 12 year old girls (still done in US+++)
Hunting was always a way to provide food for eating.The evolution of hunting into a ‘sport’ is the problem. Native Americans knew this and only took from the land that which was needed for survival. Sport hunting was developed to make money. This is why I no longer hunt.
Does this, or any living creature, deserve to be torn to pieces for fun? Please enforce the ban; tell the "hunters" to find another excuse to dress up and dash around.
It is vicious, barbaric , bloodlust that entities participants to look & feel powerful, from an entirely unfair chase-paradigm.
It's not sport, the hunted has little chance.
Perhaps it’s equally barbaric, but wouldn’t it be interesting to drop off a couple of fox hunters smeared in fish guts in the middle of ursus arctors horribilis territory?
It’s right up there with bull fighting, female genital mutilation, burying your servants alive when you pass away, child brides… the list goes on. Some archaic traditions don’t deserve to be followed. Not in a civilized society.
The only reason it hasn't been banned hundreds of years ago is because rich people do it. If it was a poor people thing, like speaking your native language rather than English, there'd be laws punishable by death.
I’m not terribly affectionate towards the cute little foxes because they eat the cute little squirrels but I do love the idea of denying the aristocracy one of their traditions.
They kill small animals, like chickens and pets. I think people were losing their food and livelihood. Rich people made it a sport, but it started bc it’s an island and foxes reproduce a lot and they gotta eat something. It’s also why they killed all of the wolves on the island
Totally agree 100%. Also another barbaric cruelty is horse racing dog racing dog fighting. It's barbaric that humans get Joy of watching animals suffer!
Sticking a pitchfork up a toff’s arse is a tradition too. If they want traditions where they are allowed to be cruel to animals they should allow us peasants ours where we can be cruel to them
If an animal must be killed, it should be only because it's necessary to feed another living creature and the animal should be killed in thr quickest and least painful way possible.
Fox 'hunting' is not real Hunting. It's torture for the sake of torture. It's fucking sick.
Or in defense of the self of course. Like going for a hike on a marked trail but a rattlesnake comes out of hiding. This would also be acceptable in my eyes.
in 1987 the seal hunt was banned in Canada
-truly a barbaric industry
but-thousands of families suffered from the loss of a major portion of their yearly incomes
money that fed their families
a fox hunt?
what real benefit is served by this "sport"
-a few overindulgent toffs, miss out on a jolly...?
100% agreed, very cruel and unnecessary tradition. However, the justification for fox hunting relies on clear ecological benefits in high-density areas, balanced against ethical alternatives. I am disputing the methods, but not the need to reduce population in some cases for the bigger picture.
Except it doesn’t. It is absolutely the worst method of pest control. In the old days, a game keeper would have taken care of many more wild predators. Nowadays there are many small companies - you won’t hear of them because they keep low key to avoid protest - but one guy with an infrared scope can
Take more foxes in a night than a hunt would in a whole season. They can also do it very quietly and go unnoticed. Unmarked vans and completely low key
Thank you, it was actually just randomly picked, though I like them too, a useful creature to have around the main piece of property I take care of is situated below a ridge of bluffs, the bare rocks warm quickly in the sun, making it a very popular spot with the vultures. The bluffs have a strip of
Forest below them and they extend as far as the ocean which is very cold. The resulting thermals allow them to start soaring much earlier in the day than in other places, making it a good place to roost. - in fact the number of vultures there led to a small island just off shore being used for sky
Burials, with bodies brought in canoes and put in the trees. There are as many bald eagles as vultures on this part of the coast, so it was an ideal spot
In the Netherlands, a high-density country with wildlife where I live, fox hunting highlights the complexity of balancing population control, biodiversity, and animal welfare. The debate isn’t about the need for management but about finding ethical and effective methods
In my experience, those involved in pest control or wildlife management usually have a greater respect and love for the animals than those who want to just “save everything”. They are invariably very well educated on wildlife in general and recognize the principles and need for balance. They can be
Fascinating to talk to. I live somewhere where the wildlife can be a bit more challenging and the thinking behind animal control can be next level. For instance if numbers of predators are getting too high in a region, you don’t go after the ones that live around farms or sensitive areas. Because
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There are many filthy traditions that should have been eradicated long ago.
End Fox Hunting Now!
It serves no purpose.
PUSSIES!
"Fox hunting" is just horseback riding while your dogs hunt foxes.
In fact some people used to unfortunately make a living out of both those activities.
That didn't in any sense justify either of them, though.
Why tf you got to kill something as well? 🤷🏼♂️
there are some people in the world who still have to hunt to eat, but this is some bullshit here.
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/the-great-fox-hunt-debate
My ambition, win lottery, mine the areas where hunts ride, send them all to hell
These people are sick
Fox hunting and all blood sports must be banned
They're not allowed their instruments on them in this fight, so they have to use non-magically assisted charisma.
... or muticlass into sorcerer for a bit of subtle casting.
“The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable!”
― Oscar Wilde
Traditions should evolve to reflect modern ethical standards. Fox hunting is cruel, causing unnecessary suffering to animals for sport. Respect for wildlife and humane treatment should take precedence over preserving outdated and inhumane practices.
Releasing a captive fox just for your dogs to chase is barbaric though.
Competitive camera work.
Everybody lives.
We may give ourselves the legal right, but we can never have the moral right.
All sentient life has the right to live & not to be deliberately made to suffer. That should override everything
...like, seriously? You're gonna victim-blame a wild animal for your own desire to kill it?
I would trade all the squirrels we have here for just one lil fox buddy.
Megan ♥️
Foxes are beautiful and loving creatures.
-- Sir William S. Gilbert
Earlier menstruating women were not allowed to enter the kitchen or touch any utensils used for cooking. That doesn’t happen anymore either.
In many regions fox population exploded because of rabies vaccine was distributed in long period of time (like meat drops from planes).
Hunters often don't want to hunt foxes, but they are obligated do so, because overgrown fox population become a thread for the ecosystem.
Fox population has declined by 49% since 1995.
Mammal monitoring | BTO - British Trust for Ornithology https://search.app/zyTXXLCrSh5D3M3W8
While I don't support hunting. It's essential to control balance in ecosystem.
Fox population that isn't reduced by rabies has to be controller by humans.
Without it, small prey will extinct.
Even if there was an increase somewhere there would be a cull not a load of upper class arseholes cheering while a fox is chased for hours and ripped apart by dogs.
Anyway in my country hunters are mostly low to middle-class arseholes. Most of upper class people despise hunting where I live.
However we have to balance the ecosystem. I would love better solutions, but for time being hunting can be a necessity.
How about giving them back their habitat? Golf courses would be a good start.
not a good thing per se
100% against any animal cruelty
It's not sport, the hunted has little chance.
I am not for fox hunting!
Fox 'hunting' is not real Hunting. It's torture for the sake of torture. It's fucking sick.
-truly a barbaric industry
but-thousands of families suffered from the loss of a major portion of their yearly incomes
money that fed their families
a fox hunt?
what real benefit is served by this "sport"
-a few overindulgent toffs, miss out on a jolly...?