If the US government requires passports for you to practice your rights such as voting then passports should be provided for free to all and within a reasonable timeframe by said government.
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And this includes costs for photos (not everyone has a smartphone), any documents that need to be ordered (e.g. lost original birth certificate), travel (if necessary to a passport office), and mailing expenses. Otherwise, it’s a poll tax.
Ok USA are so more fucked than I thought... If they require passports that's exactly in order to deliver them to who they want, more likely after a quick check on their profile on social networks.
The passport office (or the post office) lost my birth certificate. They sent me a letter telling me I could order a new document and send the receipt and they would reimburse me. I just got the new document but haven't received payment yet.
For real ID in my state, birth cert& marriage certificate required to have your ID updated married name.Exact req to get passport.They also issue free ID to vote.ACLU should immediately file lawsuit to clarify real ID to vote based on that information. It's extortion as well as voter suppression.
It’s weird how they don’t require multiple forms of ID and proof I’m a citizen when I owe & pay taxes. Somehow, all they ask for is a Driver’s License number.
I have a passport and I changed my last name when I married - of more concern is that I have changed my first name by one letter without going through a legal process and moved my maiden name to my middle name and dropped my given middle name - so nothing about my name matches my birth cert
The name I use is the one I have used on tax returns and all legal docs for 30+ years and it is on my passport and DL - but there is no paper trail - I was able to get it changed on my Passport then DL and then Social Security card because each document allowed the next.
Passport are expensive from $130 to $189. Having to purchase an original copy of your birth certificate can cost $10 to $35 depending on the state. This is an arduous burden on voters. Btw if Robert’s hadn't gutted the Voter Rights Act we wouldn't be in this mess.
I don't have a problem with an entirely manual system and it could also include vote by mail and pre-voting. The mania for instant results from voting machines is in deference to the media. There are countries where the vote tallies take weeks and no one has a problem with that.
I know I’m excited. Got married in 2023. I’ve got the means so I’m just gonna get a passport; I don’t have any other urgent need for one. But you best believe I want to cast a vote next time around. Fuck these assholes. But I agree with you 10000%.
Yes. Mine cost $130 and that didn’t include the $10 photo and having a place help to make sure I completed the forms right. That’s costly especially for those just trying to get by
👆🏾👇🏾 🎯 “Si el gobierno de EE. UU. exige pasaportes para que puedas ejercer tus derechos, como votar, entonces ese mismo gobierno debería proporcionar pasaportes de forma gratuita y dentro de un plazo razonable para todos.”
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YES! They are using red state abortion ban tactics to disenfranchise women. Stated claim is states have to figure out how to let married women vote, but feds provide no guidance, and state elections workers face jail for guessing the wrong method.
Otherwise it is a poll tax. It violates rights to do so. To punish women for something that is a cultural norm in our society is the wrong.. Also, even just ordering a birth certificate is expensive. Should be free.
I finally completed everything for a Real ID this week. The sticking point seemed to be me taking a man's name and then divorcing him. I had to provide all kinds of documentation. The certified birth certificate that they said I didn't have is $250.00.
I'm very happy for you if you got it all figured out. I think we need to have our papers in order.
This seems like a whole lot of fuss for very little reason. I took everythng you could imagine--marriage certificate, divorce decree, satisfaction of mortgage, etc. It obviously targets women.
Same problem - I can`t find my marriage cert so they won`t use my birth cert. I went ahead and renewed my expired passport after (which I meant to do anyhow) so I can go back and use that, but what a pain - you would think they could use our current driver`s license as proof of existence, but nah. 😡
I couldn't understand why they needed all of the documentation. The passport seemed to be the key. I remember it being a lot of work and fuss and expense to renew that passport.
My daughter went to vote and didn't have her driver's license. Had to go home and get her passport. She was pissed.
I did not. I didn't know about that option, and anyway, it would be somewhere in Colorado. I renewed my passport in 2017 because tRump. That also required all kinds of weird documentation.
The passport seemed to be the magic item that satisfied the DMV. I didn't have it with me 3 years ago.
I have a US passport and a state issued DL but I still haven't been able to get a Real ID, in spite of my best efforts. I've given up on it. Will just carry my passport card everywhere.
Oh, I'm sorry. What a pain. I was planning on carrying my passport if my latest attempt at Real ID was unsuccessful. The DMV was satisfied with my passport, which I didn't have 3 years ago. The whole thing is ridiculous.
It's so obvious that they are targeting women and people who are not rich. I agree with @jennydee.bsky.social that if the government insists on this identification, we should not have to pay for it. I love how we are expected to fund our oppression.
My daughter sent in my granddaughter's renewal 6 months ago. They are still waiting. I suspect that after the November election, people figured they better renew while everything was running smoothly and caused a backlog
130.00 for an adult and that doesn’t count any additional payments like photos or the need to get a birth certificate or SS card. It was a major pain to get mine.
Exactly 👍🏼 a good government, that is well organised and fair, would be on point with this directive. They made it, they should see that it’s rolled out efficiently and without delays.
Anything else is clearly an obstruction tactic.
In the UK, an ID with a photo is mandatory.
It can be a passport or driving license.
You can also apply for a 'Voter Authority Certificate', and that is FREE.
exactly. if a passport becomes a gatekeeper for rights, it's not just ID. it's a poll tax with paperwork. accessibility isn't optional. it's constitutional.
This is literally the only argument the left has ever made against voter ID. Like sure, require voter ID. But if you make that a requirement you first have to give a free voter ID to every single person who has the right to vote.
We desperately need to revamp the election system in the US tho...
state ID or drivers license. People move frequently so this means you have to contact the place you were born & wait for them to get your bc to you, or pay for a passport which not everyone can (min wage is under $8 in some places)
their last name they have to show that. It’s still very common for women to take their husband’s name here.
So this seems intended to specifically disenfranchise people who wouldn’t vote R. Women. Young people with not much savings. People in the military who move frequently. Poor people
I’ve been saying for years that if the government can assign the number to collect your future taxes when you’re born, they can issue the ID that allows you to vote.
Charging a penny for the necessary paperwork is a poll tax.
Exactly, they will not accept my original birth certificate for real ID and want me to spend money on a new one so I can spend more money on real ID, this is BS.
Not to put to find a point on it, but they are authoritarians: their goal is to make all of us their slaves.
They have no authentic interest in democracy any longer. They are a cancer that has transformed. They’re not Americans anymore. Americans support democracy. It’s our heritage.
If the purpose is to disenfranchise, yes. If the purpose is as innocent as simply proving citizenship (like they claim), then there is no contradiction.
So politically, the next move like anonymous said, is say "Ok provide passports" and listen to the lame excuses.
They already do it with a driver's license. A normal driver's license in May will keep you from flying, allowance in government buildings(including museums) and voting. You need a Real ID driver's license to do so.
Passport helps because with it you can leave the country.
Brilliant. They wouldn’t be able to figure out how to get a passport and they wouldn’t be able to figure out where to get the documents. So they wouldn’t vote.
Then it is time for seniors to step up and volunteer to assist in getting passports or requesting a birth certificate from your birth state.
And we need to show up at meetings when exhausted younger people can't!
True, but if we give every citizen a passport they may require you to carry it at all times like a driver's license. "Your papers please". How about the Senate shut this noise down instead.
I feel like that was always a part of the plan… It’s another way to get people to forcibly come forward and give a large amount of sensitive information in order to obtain an identification document like a passport. It’s just more control.
Absolutely! And, not all naturalized citizens receive a free Certificate of Citizenship. I don't remember the current price, but I know they are well over $1,000. Wonder how that compares to the cost of registering a new Lear jet with the FAA.
agree. but when you want one, you need an original, certified birth cert. that costs money before you even start the passport process. call it a basic rights tax
I’ve gotta make phonecalls about mine. I have the original but to get a passport it has to have both parents full name, mine says “Mr and Mrs (Dads name)”
It's strange how getting a passport/birth certificate etc seems a challenge in the US.
Even with the necessary checks to authenticate, why does the process sound difficult?
I've been saying this from the beginning. If they make ID requirements for legal US voters to vote, then those IDs should be free of charge. Also, it should be required that companies give people time off to get those IDs, & make election day a federal holiday. Make it fair for everyone.
Just got my passport not long ago, and it cost that and even more, because I'm adopted and they needed additional info from me to confirm that I was born here (I was). So add approx $75-$80 to that to obtain certified copies of all those docs and have them mailed to me.
100% AGREE! I have always thought that if ID such as driver's licenses or simple ID cards are REQUIRED to do things in this country, they should be provided free or at VERY low cost to its citizens.
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May sound crazy to some, but there are people that just cannot afford that.
That's more than a week of groceries for one single person on a fixed income.
Registering (& voting) is also considered a civic duty. What's the difference? Or has one political party changed the definition of civic duty?
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If the SAVE Act passes as written, you can't use Real ID to register to vote!
Absolutely ridiculous! 🤔
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-save-act-overview-and-facts/
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The GOP don’t give a fuuuuuuuck about the Constitution or America. So long as they can be in power, that’s all they care about.
The core of fascism.
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If you're a f"cking FASCIST.
Drive the poor and less fortunate away from voting rights.
I guess that'll take away their demagoguery of the majority of people voted for this.
Where is my damn pitchfork?
#handsoff
I cannot believe we're going to have to fight person by person for our rights while this regime kidnaps Americans by the hundreds...
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-maryland-deportation-trump-9f46dd62890befdc321ed1ab56107470
How do we propose it?
(Time for renew) #Passports
I finally completed everything for a Real ID this week. The sticking point seemed to be me taking a man's name and then divorcing him. I had to provide all kinds of documentation. The certified birth certificate that they said I didn't have is $250.00.
This seems like a whole lot of fuss for very little reason. I took everythng you could imagine--marriage certificate, divorce decree, satisfaction of mortgage, etc. It obviously targets women.
My daughter went to vote and didn't have her driver's license. Had to go home and get her passport. She was pissed.
The passport seemed to be the magic item that satisfied the DMV. I didn't have it with me 3 years ago.
#vote
And take away the poll tax?
Then everyone would
be able to vote.
We all know if everyone votes Republicans lose.
Anything else is clearly an obstruction tactic.
If you stay, get ready to fight!
It can be a passport or driving license.
You can also apply for a 'Voter Authority Certificate', and that is FREE.
We desperately need to revamp the election system in the US tho...
What this bill is is nonsense. Apparently military and Real ID DL's won't count. The whole idea of Real ID was sold as federal level ID w/status
But yes, if required must be available and free for voting.
The difference being that we shouldn't force elderly, sick, or disabled people to travel potentially miles and miles away just to get this kind of ID
If we're requiring it then we all must get it sent to us
In bigger states I had to show id but my drivers license was sufficient
They’re now saying you need a passport or birth certificate not just a
So this is a new burden
Also for married women, if they changed
So this seems intended to specifically disenfranchise people who wouldn’t vote R. Women. Young people with not much savings. People in the military who move frequently. Poor people
That’s
Charging a penny for the necessary paperwork is a poll tax.
Naturally, the Trump regime is trying to neuter that act.
They have no authentic interest in democracy any longer. They are a cancer that has transformed. They’re not Americans anymore. Americans support democracy. It’s our heritage.
So politically, the next move like anonymous said, is say "Ok provide passports" and listen to the lame excuses.
Personally, I’m sick of listening to their lame attempts at excuses.
I don't think storming the white house with pitch forks is a good card to play.
Passport helps because with it you can leave the country.
the cost for ordering one's birth certificate.
And we need to show up at meetings when exhausted younger people can't!
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They Want The Opposite!
Even with the necessary checks to authenticate, why does the process sound difficult?
$35 execution fee
$60 expedition fee
$15 photo fee
Then the original plus my original social security card.
That was good enough for a passport.
Now we need RealID.
Pretty soon they’ll be using eye laser verification.