So are we all in agreement that the Dems function as controlled opposition and bourgeois electoral politics isn’t going to save us from fascism or climate change
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that seems about right. maybe a few of them can resist but when nearly the whole party falls in line for fascism those few don’t really have much of an effect
Didn’t think so because I thought “the Dems wouldn’t want to lose, republicans want to kill them when they win!” Turns out I severely underestimated their complete stupidity and how much they think they’ll be fine.
Congress has been fiscally incompetent for decades. Why would a change in the occupant of the Oval Office—whether a bible salesman, sneaker seller, or a future political titan—lead to better decision-making?
I agree with you. You're absolutely correct. I'd say a year ago is when I finally realized that the democratic party was nothing but a worthless institution.
The liberal establishment is crumbling under the weight of the DNC's commitment to getting that bag and nothing else. Talked to a few who are passionate about overturning Citizens United. But they're usually more interested in fleeing the country than fixing the problem their electioneering caused.
I am interested in ranked choice voting, which would break the first past the post system and allow us to have more than two viable parties. We'd probably also need to get rid of the electoral college.
There is one (1) viable politician currently advancing both positions.
But FPTP elected governments will never allow ranked choice voting, so you're back to the world of rejecting national electoral politics at that point.
FPTP elected governments have already allowed far more liberties than their creators intended and there's a popular national candidate pushing the reform.
The alternative is violent civil war where a lot of people die *and maybe* you get the results you want *or maybe things get even worse anyway.*
In my opinion you aren't getting anything but FPTP from a FPTP government. Organisations don't cede power willingly. Alternatives are irrelevant to what I'm saying.
Except the organizations you're referring to have ceded power repeatedly over the years and in fact one of the two extant parties was itself a challenger party.
Alternatives are not irrelevant when the choices are "a political outcome" or "the violent overthrow of the constitution."
I feel like a lot of neoliberals and self-described democrats have difficulty recognizing that the Democratic Party is fairly conservative and that media framing gives this idea that AOC/The Squad and Hollywood is the party.
It’s so despicable that they’ve been telling government employees to be brave and hold on and then just completely caves in. Galactic, historic levels of cowardice
We’re in the “the current leadership are cowards, elect better representatives” phase. People still don’t realize that this is not a problem with leadership. The fundamental purpose of the party is to dampen genuine opposition. It’s going to be a long road.
Most people think there’s still a “normal” to return to. They don’t understand we need to make a new normal and it can’t be by building a new structure on rotten foundations.
No, because it isn’t an extinction burst but a collapse of hypercapitalism into fascism and the Dems have repeatedly shown they are not willing to take the significant and drastic steps required to actually prevent that collapse. The status quo is collapsing on itself, the Dems uphold the status quo
Republicans began this project in the 1970s, Reagan’s presidency was a huge push to the right, so far to the right that the Dems got pulled along with it, and they’ve been escalating ever since then. This is the culmination of their project, not an irrational bubble that will simply burst
Oh the timing is because they think they can leverage the oncoming catastrophic climate change to hammer us all into submission and consolidate resources
I've seen some people get caught up on the "controlled" part and think the claim is there's some puppet master when it's just a bunch of rich ass holes all acting in their own self interest.
Other then that I don't know how you could watch events unfold and not.
If people learn absolutely nothing from this, I hope it's that your representatives don't care about you and they most certainly don't care if you call them lol
They are literally rolling over and letting you see full stop that they support what is happening and you still refuse to see it. I don't think I'll ever understand that take.
How much longer are you going to give bourgeois electoral politics on the climate change issue? Good news. We have plenty of time for incremental change
If one begins with your premise, they'll see actions like Schumer's coming a mile away.
The Dems do not serve the interests of the people. There is no spoon.
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Didn’t think so because I thought “the Dems wouldn’t want to lose, republicans want to kill them when they win!” Turns out I severely underestimated their complete stupidity and how much they think they’ll be fine.
Any party you stand up in place of the Democrats will become a controlled opposition party in a first past the post system.
FPTP results in a two party state. Two party states will never offer ideologically pure options.
There is one (1) viable politician currently advancing both positions.
Tim Walz (D)
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/13/1214199019/ranked-choice-voting-explainer
The alternative is violent civil war where a lot of people die *and maybe* you get the results you want *or maybe things get even worse anyway.*
Alternatives are not irrelevant when the choices are "a political outcome" or "the violent overthrow of the constitution."
Kamala Harris sent me DMs promising she'd take us to Mars on a gay ship, piloted by the firts Nazi-turn-liberal Nerd Furry.
Our gay ships, no Elon's gay ones, they're too gay.
Libs, tomorrow: "Vote Blue No Matter Who, or you're a Trump supporter"
If it isn't an extinction burst, why are Republicans sure acting that way? Why Project 2025 and not say Project 1981?
Other then that I don't know how you could watch events unfold and not.
Basic human psychology, a lot of people’s minds will protect them otherwise with all kinds of tricks to hide the painful truth
Their choices are the noose or the guillotine. Every revolutionary is tasked with leading such people away from despair.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559106/
Being afraid of the implications of a truth doesn't make it any less true.
Deaths from a righteous cause of overthrowing the capitalist class = unthinkable!
Either scenario, the blood is on the hands of the capitalists.
The Dems do not serve the interests of the people. There is no spoon.