I want everyone who said they couldn't vote for Harris, because her policies didn't go far enough in one or several areas, and concluded "they're all the same", to make themselves a little scrapbook over the next four years.
As an aide-mémoire for next time.
As an aide-mémoire for next time.
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I'd like neither, but if that's not an option.(extreme example but...)
If you voted for her or Trump, then you added your consent for ethnic cleansing and you should really sit the fuck down.
How's your Gaza scrapbook coming?
Just take a moment, have a think about people undergoing genocide and then try and appreciate just how ridiculous you are.
Genocide with a sad face is no less genocidal. You should have demanded better but I guess the US is full of ... well ... you.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/07/palestinians-gaza-warm-kamala-harris-prefer-anyone-over-trump
You'll forgive me if I don't drink that Kool-Aid.
You can lie to yourself in private all you want.
Doing it in public is embarrassing.
It is a moral dilemma, but I'm not going to vilify people because they couldn't bring themselves to support the 'Democrats' chosen candidate.
You could just as easily excoriate the Dems for not having voted green.
One party who bombs the sh*t out of African and Arab countries and another party which wants to bomb the sh*t out of African and Arab nations with a little bit of Russia and China thrown in.
Hmmmm. Let's 🤔 think.
1. A complete left wing revolution...OR
2. A Right Wing zionist government forever, both R and D.
There is no middle way.
https://bsky.app/profile/aurelmondon.bsky.social/post/3li4w5hiwf22x
The current circumstances being that only Trump or Harris could have won, and that a Trump victory would be orders of magnitude worse than a Harris victory
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The lack of self-awareness to even consider how those might impact anyone else tells me everything I need to know about their opinions
And this, children, is why education is so important.
Sadly, this is already a lost cause under Trump and his boss, Musk.
It’s just incomprehensible.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention
He was the objectively better candidate after Robert Kennedy was assassinated.
Don't blame Nixon for this shit. Both he and Goldwater knew how bad religious cultists were for the GOP
Nixon was leagues better than Trump, despite the racism, because he was an actual public servant, not a con man.
Once you cross the line to openly allowing a Nazi flag, there is no going back
It is against the law to do so in many countries, chief among them Austria, Germany, also in Australia etc
Honey, you vote for the best option or you share the responsibility for electing the worst. They are NOT all the same.
No we just have basic human characteristics like morals, empathy & integrity
My god
It would be physically impossible for us to vote for a genocidal maniac 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I honestly don’t understand what you are 🤦🏻♀️
Bless you tho
While, yes, part of the problem is with deficits in PUBLIC education about war history, equally significant is the fact that unsanctioned wars have been official state policy for over two decades with NO oversight
A simple point, that fails to address the central issue that Democrats are no different. They just aren’t as shameless or amoral.
No doubt if there is next time, they will get in on the centrist failsafe of not being their predecessor…..see Starmer for example🤮
Amy Siskind about 2017
https://www.amazon.com/List-Week-Week-Reckoning-Trumps/dp/1635572711
That’s no proof of ‘working with’. They could have spent the entire evening in disagreement.
What’s with the two headed eagle that’s been casually added?
What I’m saying is that there are alternatives, you don’t have to vote for the best worst option.
Did Harris listen to the millions who wanted to stop seeing bits of children lying buried in rubble? To stop sending Israel weapons?
Know your voters, that’s how you win. That, and money.
‘Disappointed’? Yeah, you could say that.
There were alternatives. She could have come right out and said ‘no more, no more weapons, let’s find a solution’ she didn’t.
The very fact that Trump can have this sick twisted plan is because Gaza has been destroyed by US weapons.
There are no degrees of immorality.
The people who refused to vote Harris over Gaza have so far been proven correct - Trump has been materially better for Gaza than the democrats were.
Libs are fantasists
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-makes-2000-pound-bombs-available-israel-undoing-bidens-pause-2025-01-25/
Ffs America, wake up.
For. Fuck's. Sake.
Any proof?
Trump has proved that. Democrats are whining because their heroes are actually helped to enable this shitshow. You know it.
When will Americans give socialism a chance?
They talk of peace, equality and fairness, never actually do it.
https://www.owenjones.news/p/joe-bidens-supporters-vile-crowing
But he's still whining. I wonder why that is?
There are plenty of Log Cabin Republicans here who have happily thrown black women under the bus because they want to sit in front. The moralizing is empty rhetoric from someone who is not going to be harmed by Trump in any way.
https://youtu.be/aanYIO_4yVg?si=FClaobB0j45cha16
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/the-dark-shadow-of-gaza-looms-over-kamala-harriss-bid-to-become-president-382475/
Decent humans didn’t vote for genocidal war criminals 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
It must be hard to understand 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I'll just settle for them getting that however bad things are, they can always be worse, and if the alternative is Trump, then it should be self evident that it will get worse
But that isn't their strongpoint so......
I know many of these people.
I will make a digital scrapbook for them.
They’ve crossed the line now & can’t afford to lose
Brilliant 🤦🏻♀️
School was wasted on you 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Not wasting any more time on you. Muted 👋
It’s all the USA population & Elon fixing it
You’re really good at assumptions then 🤣🤣
I hope you're proud of yourself and your stiffnecked, blind, single-issue fanaticism.
It feels a long way off, but...
Problem
But sure, completely absolve them of any responsibility.
But they’re aren’t always perfect choices in politics and sometimes there are least worse choices that have to be made.
Those same accounts have never posted a word about the campaign and Democrats not listening / taking voters for granted.
https://youtu.be/3l8vWfaFVMU?si=KurAqhncvGGuVmm-
Your comment only works if you assume everyone is politically engaged and follows current affairs. They aren’t. Dems needed to engage those people and persuade them. And they didn’t.
Blaming the public is just ugly.
“If you don’t vote for us, it’s your fault and we are going to hate you for it”
Instead of actually doing something that will win people over to them.
It should have been EASY.
And Dems failed so hard by not doing it.
It feels like some people are completely unwilling to criticise the Dems.
Why weren’t they able to engage with those communities?
It should have been easy for the Dems.
I’d question the mentality of anyone who thinks the Dems should just take voters for granted. And then telling the electorate they’re stupid / mentally deficient if they didn’t vote for your party is just ugly.
There has never been a candidate I agree with 100%, or feel fully confident in. There are however candidates I feel so unfit for office I would take any opportunity to vote against them. Were I American, Trump would be one.
They just get thousands of likes by punching the people the Dems failed to win over.
All of that is your baggage. Not in my post in any way. I was criticising specifically the conclusion "they are all the same".
As Bernie @sanders.senate.gov tried to tell you...
https://youtu.be/Vf5MThSniiY
But what I don’t do is pour scorn on people who didn’t vote. I put the blame for that at the feet of the Democratic Party.
As bizarre as we may find it, not everyone is politically engaged. Not everyone follows current affairs. Dems had 1 job. They failed.
https://bsky.app/profile/democrats.org/post/3li5jiw7eoc2o
This must be the fault of the people who most despise the winners.
Flawless logic.
Imagine the mental gymnastics to try to claim some kind of moral authority when babies are dying. No difference.
the Democrats genocide of Palastinans would have consequences, so voters removed their support, and now they have been punished.
The greens never bombed Gaza this is on the Democrats.
Trump says out loud what Democrats have supported for decades, ethnic cleansing.
70 million people dead because of Nazi flags.
The thought of filling the Gaza strip w sky high condos, casinos, hotels, etc., is one of the most grotesque things I've ever heard. We know it's been in the works for a while.
Gutting USAID is probably the most evil single act, ever. It will only bring suffering, disease, and death.
I don't agree with any war, and Biden was lackadaisical in trusting war ciminal Bibi. He created a monster.
I think Kamala was best of all.
Some humans have empathy & Morals and wouldn’t be able to vote for a genocidal war criminal who was bombing innocent civilians
I know it’s so hard to comprehend 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Bless you, get some critical thinking skills, integrity, empathy & morals & come back to me
Even if people saw violence as inevitable/desirable, one outcome was going to be "easier" and it's not the timeline we're on.
Wrong candidate And policies
Dems need to get a white Christian man who isn’t obsessed with DEI.
Americans not capable of critical thinking and aren’t educated enough to elect a woman.
Need to appeal to working class Americans. Prices, immigration, jobs. Now they have the orange 💩
That doesn’t mean I agree.
It was:"enough with these corporate candidates pushing right, making no needed reforms, pretending the vote because they're not Republicans." Of course you see Dems learned nothing and started blaming everyone else
But I think that this idea of "there's always 2 options and one to be voted" is not it
2. My point stands on the fact that the results of the elections fall on the candidates, not the voters
3. Harris didn't try to avoid big promises, Dems just don't care and people had had enough of it, and tightly so
Also, to suggest I'm deflecting, but you weren't? How convenient!
Trump beat two woman - but lost to a man.
Just look at Trumps admin - riddled with women haters.
Dems need to plan accordingly for 28.
But to say "they're all the same" is either very naïve or disingenuous.
I also worry about the Democrats feeling 'rewarded' for their apathy.
Or do you think that genocide was special because it was white people?
But keep attacking the left instead of attacking the right - I’m sure that strategy will win people over to your side eventually.
But even if it were, I feel like 'We're not going to be a fascist dictatorship, unlike him.' should be a good pull, no?
if political representatives do not meet your standards of perfection, they are no good, or “all the same” …. this shuts
cohorts of voters, even.
the priorities of these voters may overlap, yet they will not be the ^same — and especially in this era, when many voters connect themselves to
(i have friends that are fervent environmentalists, with little to zero interest in trans rights, etc.
— to cite just one 🗳️ example).
the complete inanity of so much of the electorate is far more frustrating to me than supposedly inadequate politicians..
The sheer stupidity of such arguments makes my head spin. You have a very simple choice - Trump or Harris. You have to vote for the least worse option.
Without its stability EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY is made vulnerable to foreign exploitation and marginalized people have to HOPE they get an administration willing to go to war for them.
However, to argue that they're *the same* as Trump, either in that area or in general, is absurd. Just look at what he's done in his first month alone.
Those individuals have no grounds to complain about what Trump is doing.
Red lines are good, and I completely respect that. However, a consequence of acting on those red lines is that Trump was re-elected. There's just no real way of getting around that.
Just as with that, it was all so incredibly obvious. Even to the extent they wrote it all down in a manifesto, unlike with Brexit.
"the pile of dead Palestinians is at least double under Trumps genocide than under Bidens.
why didn't you vote for us?"
For making him president with just 1.5% more votes than Harris, Trump should comp them weekends at Trump Gaza Casino & Resort he can now build there.
They are beyond useless and always have been.
The other prohibits elective abortion providers such as Planned Parenthood from providing health-related instruction or materials in public schools.
https://ksltv.com/education-schools/pride-flags-planned-parenthood-target-of-utah-house-committee/739383/
A rainbow banned, a flag removed.
But swastikas? They’re approved?
If love offends but fascists pass,
Utah’s laws are straight-up trash.
I don't know when that might come about. Re-establishing proper democracy wuth check and balances will take a very long time. If it ever does happen.
What a time to be alive.
I am not seeing specific criticism directed at them - and after all, they're to blame.