Watch last night’s (2/19) Lawrence O’Donnell show for an explanation. She can’t unilaterally remove him. There is an untested procedure, and regardless of the result it would get tied up in courts for years.
Facts, even the unappealing ones (no pun intended) matter.
Isn't there a process for the people of NYC to recall this guy and impeach him? The voters put him in they should be able to take him out of office as well. I don't know NYC election laws.
political animals know no honor. It's their life - to be re-elected. All they ultimately care about. Recognize them for what they are and call them what they are. They successfully found, and surfed, a popular wave and they'll do it again.
NY is one of the more Gov-centric states. There aren't really a lot of limits on how a Gov can remove a mayor, and precedent is that its in the wheelhouse of executive authority.
How it would work is that there would be a kind of trial, with Hochul, essentially, playing judge, jury, and prosecutor
This has happened once (notably) before, with the FDR corruption allegations against Jimmy Walker back in 1932, and it worked like it sounds. FDR basically steamrolled Walker right out of office.
Still possible she's holding off to pull the trigger on another option — a 30-day suspension of mayor power, and has until i believe late Mar. to pull on dragging him to Albany to stand a removal trial.
FDR didn’t have social media! They hardly ever even showed photos of him in a wheelchair! I believe history should always be learned to not make the same mistake, but if she tried we could loose NY!
They didn’t show FDR in his chair because we had a world at war and we were leading the good guys on that. See back then appearances meant everything and had they projected him as weak, who knows? Nowadays we have those who think they’re allies intentionally making people look weak for their gain.
As 'prosecutor, judge & jury' she'd have to oversee every minute of this process *in person*, Adams could drag this out to SCOTUS & a resolution could take years! I can't see how doing this would even make sense right now - the truth about how this process really works needs to be more understood
Let’s hold on to what we have. Right wing will gladly sabotage Hochul to promote a R wing governor in the next election. We are going to need her. More and bigger battles are coming.
This is an FYI to the community at large. Last night, Lawrence O’Donnell played a clip of James Carville ranting against Kathy Hochul for not removing Eric Adams from office. And he said, “let’s be clear about this: she cannot unilaterally remove him from office,
“ the process is a special hearing where in the mayor can bring as many witnesses as he wants for as long as he wants. The special hearing means the governor of New York has to attend every session
because she is the judge and the jury. She would be neglecting her duties as the governor of the state if she allowed this one corrupt official to occupy all her time. I don’t know if it’s possible for the citizens to start a recall petition, but as I see it, that would be the only solution.
People have mentioned that. I didn't see it. But from what I've read, Hochul could suspend Adams for up to 30 days, to hold hearings in which he and MAGA plead their case. Then, she could fire him. And he could appeal. And the appeals would likely take longer than the time he has left anyway.
The thing is, there are considerations here other than keeping pro-fascist leftists entertained with video snippets.
For example, perhaps Governor Hochul would rather not produce a whole season's worth of Republican campaign ads, for free, without even producing any change in the mayor's office.
Trump is evil incarnate and is responsible for the deaths of my brother and several other police officers. He has no business being anywhere near a position of power and needs to be removed ASAP. Of course, stupid Americans believe he is the second coming of Christ so that won't happen.
I was a cop for a while & 30 yrs as a paramedic, I have nothing but respect for the police and especially for Brian & his colleagues on that terrible day. It's inconceivable 2 me how this criminal, low life predator, this filth of human excrement has managed to get back in to power. My condolences
Hochul is FAMOUSLY corrupt just ask ANYONE who works in her office 🤣 🤮
If she’s fired Adam’s a progressive would be Mayor and the Russian mafia/gop intel bureaucrats who control NY would NEVER let that happen 🤷
Lawrence O’Donnell explained that it’s not a simple policy to get rid of a mayor in NY. This would require a special trial where Hochul would have to be the judge, jury, & prosecutor & Adams would be able to call as many witnesses as he wanted. The time this would take gets us up to the election.
Fetterman is just a naked mole rat stacked on top of Sinema, Machin, and a couple of bewildered sewer rats dressed in a trench coat painted to look like an old sweatshirt and sweaty shorts.
That’s what had me voting for Conor Lamb in the primary. I voted for this asshole in the general because of “vote blue no matter who” but never trusted him. I was correct. Sigh.
I live in Washington state and sent this guy money for his campaign. I really believed in him. And rooted for him when he was down. What a disappointment he’s become.
Who is everyone? Lol. I wish she could remove him, but the legal experts I spoke to said she can only remove him for incapacity. I hope you are right. I would love to be wrong on this.
You need to listen to Lawrence O’Donnell’s explanation of why she cannot just fire Adams. It’s a complex process with no guidelines and it’s never been done. Please check things out before hate posting about Hochul. She is doing what she can.
He’s talking about it again tonight with a very good explanation. He blamed the media for not informing the public properly. I agree. It’s not that simple. NYC voters will have to stand up and ensure he’s not reelected. Guessing he will drop out of race by summer as he works for Homan’s sick policy
Sounds like a good time to lay the ground work to get the process started. Why is it that libs shirk responsibility for everything? Either they "have no power" or they worry about "the process being followed" or "the parliamentarian said this".
Leaders do the hard things, not whine cuz "it's hard"
It’s not because it’s hard. Think: he would sue and it would end up in front of SCOTUS. Unlike Trump, maybe she’s wanting to work within the rule of law and the Constitution.
Seriously, go watch that segment. Half of the "process" doesn't even exist. This isn't a case of a dem being a coward, though that happens far too often. This is just shy of impossible.
I've watched Mitch McConnell and his Republicans do the impossible for years now. Ergo, the Democrats can find a way to do the impossible
They just have to find their spines.
I don't disagree with you but they do things that are within their power through processes that exist. They're just willing to break norms where dems aren't. This isn't the same thing. I wish it was but unless hochul wants to do this and only this with a slim chance of success, it ain't worth it.
So true, if they have the majority they don’t wield their power, it’s even more pathetic when they are in the minority. The rethuglicans always use their power. They luckily can’t get things done except for investigations and hearings
Jeffries needs to step aside. He has shown clearly that he is not a leader. There are other Dems in the House who could and are leading. Even if he had a slim majority tomorrow, he would not know what to do with it. Step aside, Jeffries. Your time has passed.
The republicans are doing all kinds of things that have never been done, simply by just doing them. Norms are a thing of the past. Laws? Rules? Nope. Dems needs to fight fire with fire. The time for being meek and mild is over.
A republican wouldn’t even think twice about taking the mayor of New York out. So why should a democrat? The kind of thought process you describe is what is bringing the Democratic Party down.
What would Republicans do? No doubt they would’ve gotten rid of this guy without worrying too much about the process or the legal implications. If Dems aren’t going to get rid of him, then what kind of pressures can they put on him to control him? Defang him if you can’t get rid of him.
Not yet she didn't. She doesn't want to trigger an election, which is what would happen if she fired him before 3/26. There are many ways to buy time, and there's also no assurance Judge Ho will accede to the DoJ's demands.
I don't project. If Ho dismisses, he can do it as the DoJ asks, "without prejudice," or he can do it "with prejudice." The first would allow the DoJ to refile the charges & preserve the quid pro quo; the second would dismiss the charges forever, but allow them to be refiled in state court.
I would like that too. Judge Ho could establish a Special Prosecutor for the case, since DoJ won't prosecute. It's really irksome to hear these crooks pretend that they did nothing wrong but were set up by a "weaponized justice system." Pfui.
As long as GOP is in power, every future mayor of NYC (or any other city) can add a guaranteed presidential pardon to the list of mayoral perks. You just gotta bend over a bit. Although, considering how Combs cornered the lube market, I’m not so sure it’s a good idea in the long run.
Dems don't recognize the potential for party donation collapse or abandonment. like... at all.
If shit gets as bad as it looks like it will & Dems keep being the bug & not the windshield, survival & resentment will lead to little $ for donations & disinterest in squishy pols https://bsky.app/profile/splatterthought.bsky.social/post/3lin542k3qs2f
She’s more concerned with Andrew Cuomo’s bid for a special election if she removes Adams. Elon is going to send his $ and influence either way. Wake up NYS. It’s all on the line for us. You think it’s bad under her? Wait until you see what happens when you get a R gov who bends the knee.
She did not. If she removed him, how would that play out in the upcoming election? That would be a gift to her awful republican opponent. NYS has a political life beyond Eric Adams and we need to survive this. Let NYC remove him.
In uk politics, her party would withdraw the whip, basically suspend membership, then she would be interviewed, and if she didn't change what she was doing expel her. Can't they do that in the states
She's getting the wrong advice
I honestly thought all the resignations of highly professional people would jolt her into taking action & start the process
My grandfather used to have an expression
"Shit or get off the pot"
I guess she decided the pot was too uncomfortable
I think she should also change parties...loose lips...using Canada in her recent speech....saying we would be annihilated if we attached Buffalo!!..its bad enough that the other side is gunning for us....
Well, President Musk is said to have pretty deep pockets and I'm thinking there have already been many hands from BOTH sides of the aisle in those pockets.
Unpopular opinion here
She put in guard rails and a board from Duly elected officials to run NYC, they can decide to remove him. She also limited his powers.
She has her focus on protecting New York State, and keeping her eyes gazed on that clown in the White House
That’s Leadership Only
I disagree.. she is letting trumpet & co look like weak little panty-wringers. the DOJ is hanging themselves on this. .. she's just not standing in their way. But she IS protecting us and that is most important.
She is once again showing how weak and rudderless the Dems are right now and it’s sickening to watch them fold up while the rest of us watch our decent into Authoritarianism and a Police State run by the worst most inept people at the asylum.
Who’s the worse poison? Adams or Hochul? This isn’t a grey area IMO! Choose? If U want both gone, then make damn sure who U put in their places won’t come back & bite your ass again! I just know from experience when anger leads, foolish decisions follow!
NY progressives and many D's are pissed. She was already hated before this. Now, even more so. She cannot be the D nominee in '26. We have to identify a quality candidate to primary her and work to get her out.
Like i said in an another post lets breathe, step a bit back and notice something? Leticia James has been Very Very Quiet, also BRIBERY of City Official is a Crime according to the NY State Penal Law statutes, the Federales are NOT needed for a STATE investigation give it time just saying
They all talk big and then fold like a house of cards at the first opportunity. I want a divorce from this country and all of these jokers, and I want it now. This whole nightmare has crossed over into another realm of fucked up.
IMO, I don’t think I can help MAGA/Rs more than I already am … by voting for Ds. Time has shown.
The Rs would find a way to remove Adams, just like they found a way to elect Trump-twice!!! Call it what you will, facts or no facts, they UNFORTUNATELY get their stuff done.
Stop already! Lawrence O'Donnell told us the process to remove Adam's could take years. The governor is working on a new plan to keep him in check. I have never seen so many ready to eat their own. Stop already!!
There are so many pseudo-democrats, turncoats, and opportunists in the party there may as well not even be a “Democratic” party. Just a bunch of Libertarians and closeted Republicans.
Man, you people have zero idea of what this would entail, including the OP. Big problems about the internet - too many uninformed people think theyre experts 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Please stop. A quick search will let you know how complicated and impossible the process is. Elections will come and go before the process gets wrapped up. Giving Hochul a bad name only helps Republicans in the next NYS governor's election.
What she would have had to go through to get rid of him would have been a huge distraction. She could not just fire him. He will be voted out in a few months anyway.
@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com explained why it would not be prudent or expedient to try to use a never tried removal of Adams. IMost likely he will not win another term. This has not been completely played out in the courts.
I have been very critical of @GovKathyHochul. I was wrong.
@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com has explained perfectly that she does not have the power to remove the mayor. Please go watch his show from last night. There's way too much misinformation out there as it is for dems to be getting caught up in it.
She did not have the simple power to remove the mayor, only to begin a legal process that includes hearing and testimony but specifically excludes legal evidence from the case. You get that last part?
"Apparently if he is removed before March 26th then there is a special election where a Republican is primed to win. If not, Jumaane Williams will take over." Is what I was told, and if that is true you may need to hold down the fort for a month
Prison time coming for all who’ve allowed criminals to be put into positions of power. The only way to ensure it never happens again, and to maintain this republic 🇺🇸‼️
Vacancy, prior to that, requires a Special Election (within 90 days) and NYC Advocate holds seat temporarily. Regular Election will still be in November.
Vacancy after March 26th, 'NYC Advocate' would hold seat until November Election.
Nah. She’s playing a long game. The process to remove him is tedious & has many appeals, has never been attempted..his term is up soon…she keeps an eye in him and moves on
No she didn’t. She knows what she’s doing. Stop dragging Democrats when they do something different from what you wanted. I wanted what you wanted but I didn’t get it. I appreciate what’s she’s doing to protect both New Yorkers and immigrants living in New York.
She was never supposed to be the Governor. She’s cowardly and a product of the NY party machine. The machine is the real problem. She is completely beholden to too many insiders not the people of the state.
As 'prosecutor, judge & jury' she'd have to oversee every minute of this process *in person*, Adams could drag this out to SCOTUS & a resolution could take years! I can't see how doing this would even make sense right now - the truth about how this process really works needs to be more understood
Nope, too harsh. If anyone watched Lawrence O'Donnell explain how long a road it would be remove Adams with all the procedures it takes, you might not be saying it. I think she's frying the correct fish- going against Trump's order to drop congestion pricing. That's ballz !
100% agree
And if she were to remove Adams outright there would be the issue of the public voted him in, now allow the public to vote him out. Run a strong Dem in the primary
Adam, according to MSNBC Host Lawrence O’Donnell Kathy Hochul’s powers are complicated and require her to complete various steps to limit Mayor Adams. As Governor of NY she doesn’t have the power to remove the Mayor as everyone thinks.
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Facts, even the unappealing ones (no pun intended) matter.
https://wrrv.com/hochuls-plan-for-2026-election-revealed-what-to-expect/
WE THE PEOPLE have a responsibility to protect our democracy.
1/3 didn’t vote.
THAT’S the problem.
Keep convincing people to stay home by bashing Dems.
Democrats bark but when it comes time to take a bite out of someone, they do NOTHING.
No more of these mouthpieces
EITHER BACK UP YOUR MOUTH OR STFU AND RETIRE
In my first job as a bouncer, words were important, but throwing someone through the door made those words real!
🤨
How it would work is that there would be a kind of trial, with Hochul, essentially, playing judge, jury, and prosecutor
But the options are still on the table.
He could’ve lost NY - and wrote at length about his own concerns with it.
He had sympathizers/noninterventionalists to worry with - MAGA of their day.
For all the ways we’ve advanced, we really haven’t come very far.
Pick our poisons, I suppose; die fast, or die slow.
Neither one of them is a democrat
This is an FYI to the community at large. Last night, Lawrence O’Donnell played a clip of James Carville ranting against Kathy Hochul for not removing Eric Adams from office. And he said, “let’s be clear about this: she cannot unilaterally remove him from office,
For example, perhaps Governor Hochul would rather not produce a whole season's worth of Republican campaign ads, for free, without even producing any change in the mayor's office.
I bet if a plane crashes in the mountains of Nepal, somehow it will be Trump's fault.
I hate the orange c*nt but the level of unwarranted claims from some here is so stupid. It truly is.
If she’s fired Adam’s a progressive would be Mayor and the Russian mafia/gop intel bureaucrats who control NY would NEVER let that happen 🤷
Judge Ho or bust, I guess.
Hochul met with top Dems, including Jeffries. Like I said.
This appears to be the Dem party line. They fear blowback on themselves.
It's up to Judge Ho, as I understand it, to ensure the charges cannot be dropped. Anything else is a miscarriage of justice.
She’s a Democrat?
Leaders do the hard things, not whine cuz "it's hard"
They just have to find their spines.
She has been and still is too beholden to Wall Street as well.
i mean, there was all this talk before & during his confirmation process about how great & tough he is.
We didn't see that.
https://youtu.be/PDapa0YSnVs?si=bnaS6RLiG-VS23dO
Now the only real hope is that Judge Ho doesn't allow his corruption charges to be dropped.
If shit gets as bad as it looks like it will & Dems keep being the bug & not the windshield, survival & resentment will lead to little $ for donations & disinterest in squishy pols
https://bsky.app/profile/splatterthought.bsky.social/post/3lin542k3qs2f
Can SMILE, PURRTY, on TV..
Solves a Problem
I honestly thought all the resignations of highly professional people would jolt her into taking action & start the process
My grandfather used to have an expression
"Shit or get off the pot"
I guess she decided the pot was too uncomfortable
They could collect a shitload of donations if they declared their candidacy today.
She put in guard rails and a board from Duly elected officials to run NYC, they can decide to remove him. She also limited his powers.
She has her focus on protecting New York State, and keeping her eyes gazed on that clown in the White House
That’s Leadership Only
But that won’t stop him.
I don't know what to say other than what Kathy Hochul did you know?
Surely not the "I will sell everyone out all the time" one the rest of us know.
If so, why aren't NY state authorities charging Adams?
This would never happen on their team. Never.
Then they say voter turnout and excitement were low… no shit. Excited about what? Another future sellout?
The Rs would find a way to remove Adams, just like they found a way to elect Trump-twice!!! Call it what you will, facts or no facts, they UNFORTUNATELY get their stuff done.
What are we waiting for?
I'm taking names, and I won't forget.
@fetterman.senate.gov has been the greatest disappointment to date.
People are losing their minds when party leaders don’t ☹️
https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/02/18/what-happens-if-eric-adams-leaves-office-succession-explainer/
I have been very critical of @GovKathyHochul. I was wrong.
Ppl having a hissy over her not doing something that would have ended up being an expensive empty gesture is ridiculous
He illustrated what she needed to do to not have her firing stayed by a judge immediately.
But she never was going to do it because she's Kathy Hochul
Trump and Musk already have our Military, Enemies, Drones, SSN#, Bank Information, Law Enforcement, Navy, Air Force, Clandestine Operatives
America, 🇺🇸
Do we go to work on Monday?
I believe we are at the “drop our wrenches and walk off this Job site” part of history 👏
Once Trump has control of the Military with his own people, Democracy dies.
Read about Putinism on Wikipedia.
Stay informed !!!
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/20/politics/hegseth-could-fire-senior-generals-admirals/index.html
https://youtu.be/mEwjqBOZnrw?si=N0eo8fyHXb3Ot3JO
My wife is 30 IQ points smarter than I.
I accepted that years ago.
(That’s right, the women are smarter, the women are smarter that’s right).
The switch from polytheism to one angry, male god screwed women big time.
It was an incredibly stupid human mistake.
Organize now, and make sure Adams is "not" re-elected.
NY State Senator @zellnor.bsky.social Zellnor Myrie has been endorsed by @danielsgoldman.dg4ny.co
Others running for mayor👇
https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2025/02/heres-whos-running-new-york-city-mayor-2025/401994/
Watch for March 26th.
Vacancy, prior to that, requires a Special Election (within 90 days) and NYC Advocate holds seat temporarily. Regular Election will still be in November.
Vacancy after March 26th, 'NYC Advocate' would hold seat until November Election.
And if she were to remove Adams outright there would be the issue of the public voted him in, now allow the public to vote him out. Run a strong Dem in the primary