Or inflation, for that matter. If inflation goes down, that doesn't mean prices go down. It only means prices don't rise as fast. Widespread deflation only happens in an economic depression.
It hits ALL our wallets! If it just affected ignorant voters-fine by me! Doesn’t work like that! Voted for trump to end Obama Care! Then learn ACA is one & the same! Now wailing they’re gonna lose their health insurance -along with 44,000,000 others! Google before voting for answers! Dodos!
After they get to ride off of Biden's economy, just like they did with Obama's economy.
Trump did nothing for the economy, yet gets credited because their propaganda works.
The sky is always falling whenever there is a Dem President and the people buy it EVERY TIME.
The clue should have been that Biden's economy consistently got better with time while during the 1st Trump term, his economy consistently got worse with time.
Yet....no one points these things out in clear language on any msm outlets.
Kind of weird results really, since most (59%) DO seem to understand that tariffs will increase prices but still support them even though they view lowering prices as a priority . It leaves me wondering what policies or "concepts" they think will lower prices.
So, it looks like (at least for some of them), they want tariffs, know that will raise prices, but think that Trump's going to be able to do something else to lower prices overall, magically?
Or maybe the intersection of "favor tariffs" and "know tariffs will increase prices" are in the medium/not a priority category of "lower prices of goods/services." Because screw everybody, I guess?
He thinks that the mere threat will bring nations too the table, hat in hand. The problem is that he is threatening everybody, and that's not going to work out well for him. Plus, China is far more willing to weather the storm.
Well, it’s obvious that they have no idea how domestic nor global economy work. Perhaps because for more and more people, social media and bias news media is they only source of information. I think that I need to correct myself, not information, misinformation is more true.
It’s interesting that this survey suggests at least some do understand - does that segment actually understand the fact of tariffs increasing prices and then just puts it all together illogically?
They don't know how anything works. The party of "you can't tell me what to do" blindly believes what Dear Leader and Faux Noise tell them is true. They also, ironically, don't understand irony.
Look it’s really simple. Trump puts tariffs on all imports. The other countries pay them. Prices for consumers fall. Tax cuts pay for themselves. Pigs fly. Trees and seas just up and fly away. Eight times eight times eight is four. The earth starts turnin' right to left.
Wait… help me out here…. question 30 derailed me: 59% of trump supporters believe tariffs will increase prices of things they buy, yet they voted FOR the forthcoming pain anyway? Would that be called self-inflicted wound or self-flagellation?
Sure. And no small number of them will say “see what Harris did to this country?!” even 4 years from now.
The problem is that the “finding out” doesn’t itself matter if most folks can’t or won’t then draw the logical line from “found out” to “oh, Trump caused this!”
We’ll ALL find out! If it was only the ignorants-fine by me! But it doesn’t work that way! The cretin’s already announcing a 25% tariff which is how much some items will increase-or more! Weary of stupidity in voters! Several industries already raising prices in anticipation! (auto parts for one).
You think they will? More likely they will reel in confusion until they’re told who to blame, which will be the immigrants they are deporting, socialists, and democrats.
Nah. It's because white privilege still dictates to people that certain categories of white people saying a thing should be instantly believed without question. We've literally been through this already with trickledown economics. I mean this'll be much worse but still.
It not only has worked. But is working and will continue to work. I've seen soooooo much misinformation here on bluesky. With only an extremely small amount of people pointing it out and of course since they aren't popular/white. They aren't heard at all.
That's because it can't. Narcissists/narcissism can't have logic or morality anywhere near them/it. If it were...they wouldn't be narcissists/narcissism couldn't exist. People don't look at racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc and think narcissism. But they should.
Fox News must’ve not reported Walmart & Lowe’s are raising their prices in anticipation of tariffs. You can tell the magats are not getting accurate information. Why did Walmart give so much money to Trump & P2025 knowing he was planning tariffs? Prices too high people won’t buy.
Very possible, but I would much rather empower voters with correct information than disenfranchise voters. Remember, while white people (I'm a white guy) were Trump's biggest demographic, there are lots of other people that got sucked in via misinformation. We need another Fairness Doctrine in MHO.
Excuse me.
“Good Luck” seems like a fucked
up thing to say “at this juncture”
Why not just be
clear & straightforward?
That would be: “Fuck You, America”
Which is fine. FOR PEOPLE WHO
AREN’T AMERICAN.
So, hopefully dude is Canadian.
If not, he deserves to get his ass kicked.
They barely can read or think, how would they understand economy ?
Only parrots who mimic their cult leader. Im sure they gonna blame Biden for the raising prices incoming with those tariffs.
I don't think they understand just how much stuff we get from overseas that they use everyday. They seem to think if it's in Walmart it's from the good ol USofA and won't be affected!
Of course not because they listened to Trump and think the seller pays the tariffs. I have MAGA acquaintances who think Trump is going to really stick it to China with these tariffs. They are about to have a huge wake up call
Actually the data here suggests almost *everyone* appreciates that tariffs will make prices higher (just 18% in lala land). So it's possibly a quite Brexity "we know and don't care" attitude which may change once its really live.....
They've been told it's about "the economy" to keep them angry about price increases. Of course the GOP never mentions supply and demand or how tariffs really work. Keep them angry, then give them convenient scapegoats for their anger and they'll vote for you every time.
I agree entirely. T didn't win because bacon is expensive. He won because he's tapped into widespread, right-wing, white-wing grievance, and he's been aided & abetted by the MAGA media's full-time disinformation.
trump has a 100-150 word vocabulary & reads at a 3rd grade level! A snake oil salesman/huckster Talks at his cult level & suckers them in! Plus single issue citizen voters-who voted to ‘punish’ our Pres Biden-already wailing they were lied to! Finding they’re gonna be ‘punished’ with deportation!
The fate of the incumbent was always going to hinge on the economy. If covid had not happened, much would have been banking on the predicted incoming recession. As it was, the pandemic threw everything off, and people directed their anger at inflation at Biden/Harris.
But they wrongly directed their anger at Biden/Harris who presided over the best economic recovery among peer nations. And on 10/16, Murdoch's WSJ released a survey of 66 economists giving thumbs up to Biden & Harris. Those facts didn't breach the MAGA media bubble or lessen MAGA grievance.
One family member trumper is quite intelligent-has a BA & good career! Wife’s parents were Russian Jew immigrants (naturalized citizens). Has an adorable daughter & son-thus half Jewish! Can not understand his thinking! Especially with a daughter! I’m the only family member who still speaks to him!
I wouldn't speak to him. Wouldn't be in the same room either. You don't support that cult and the Hitler knockoff and get permission to be in my life. It's me or Orange Hitler. End of story. I can run down the list of people I no longer speak to, but they are dead to me & thus, that's a no go
59% understand Tariffs will make things more expensive.
52% support Trump’s Tariff plans.
Just, WTH?
At least some of them know the two things they want are mutually exclusive, but…
Starting to think they actually believe Trump is a miracle-bestowing God!?!
Trump voters in particular and voters overall want lower prices.
They favor tariffs on imported goods and acknowledge tariffs will raise prices - which is counter to their primary objective.
Unbelievable.
No. But they know how to turn on a tv, binge watch a crappy tv show and vote in a presidential election for the star thinking he really is a suave, confident entrepreneur. So they got that going for them.
My daughter is learning harder economics in her HS class than most Americans with college degrees. Granted she is more intelligent than me & 95% of the rest of the country.
Of course they don't. Just like they don't know Obamacare is actually the Affordable Care Act currently providing them health insurance. They're about to face some very hard facts.
Knowing a few trump supporters their logic is that we will suddenly have a bunch of factory jobs and make everything here. So in turn everything will be cheaper.
When their lives take a turn for the worse because of things like this, they will find a way to pin the blame on the Democrats.
And if they can't find a way, they will make one.
I think they've been convinced that tariffs are invoices you send to countries you don't like. I don't know what would disabuse them though, since the tariff wouldn't be listed on a receipt
Evidently they do. They know that tariffs will make prices higher.
The problem is that the questions about lowering prices and tariffs raising prices were asked about 30 seconds apart. That's too long for them to follow logic and stuff.
But it’s not just them! We ALL pay! ALL of us! If we don’t know something-simple to Google or use Wikipedia for the answer! We do our homework! They just vote! This was the most important election of our lives! trump’s China/soy tariffs! Destroyed many farmers! Voted for him again! Dodos!
The propaganda machine kept them in the dark. They couldn't tell the difference between Obamacare and the affordable Care act. Years of right-wing radio. Years of Fox News. And a few months of podcasts. We are a nation of stupid people. If we ever come back from this it will still take generations.
If they understood how most things work, they wouldn't be so angry and easily manipulated or supporting him. It's wild how many businesses have already said - including Walmart - they will raise prices as a result of tariffs, but his crowd still doesn't get it.
I have noticed that people that have voted for Trump even if they aren't Maga are the type of people who like to blame others for their problems and think that someone else has to fix it for them. They very rarely take responsibility for their choices It's always someone else's fault never their's
trump wrongly argues that exporters pay the tariff-it’s the importer! Tariffs affect ALL of us-not just the clueless! A tariff is a tax & raises the cost of an item. The consumer pays the raised price! Gets involved with retaliation tariffs back & forth between countries-but always-consumer pays!
Look they voted for a convicted felon/rapist traitor/Insurrectionist who I believe cheated in this election as well as his wives and golf scores! He’s catered to the MAGAtMorons!!🖖🏻🤦🏼♀️💦💙🇺🇸
Alternative interpretation is that they perfectly understand that the only way to make US goods competitive with cheap imports is to pay US workers less than what foreign workers get paid.
IOW, they want to turn the US workforce into a 3rd-world workforce by cutting wages and benefits to the bone.
Easy way to explain to a Trump supporter how tariffs work. On a cruise ship you buy 2 cartons of cigarettes in duty free shop for $30, normally cost $20 ea. Limit is 2 cartons. When u go through customs & they find the other 2 cartons u bought you now have to pay a duty/tax on them equaling $20 ea
The probable economic impact of Trump's stated plans are stark. Ag, housing, local economies impacted by the sudden loss of participants. The cost of almost everything will skyrocket.
A tariff is a tax & raises the cost of an item! The consumer pays the raised cost/price! trump openly lies about tariffs as he doesn’t ‘get’ them! His China/soy just about destroyed farmers. Some lost farms! Some committed suicide! He messed up the recovery payout! Some got millions! Some got $10!
trump wrongly argues the exporter pays the tariff! It’s the importer! He just about destroyed farmers with China/soy/tariff! Some lost farms-others committed suicide! His recovery payout-cost us billions! China sales went from $19.5 billion to $9 billion! Yet farmers voted for the cretin again! FFS!
But we pay along with the clueless! Too uninterested to know exactly what’s a tariff until they can’t afford an item or it’s not available because an industry won’t play the tariff/tax & then they screech about inflation!
They seem to believe it will magically translate into domestic jobs. Not realizing that many of the raw materials to create domestic products will also have tariffs, creating a double whammy inflation hit.
They don't know how tariffs work. If Cheeto implements his tariff plan, we will all pay more for everything. People will stop buying cars and appliances, housing will crash, unemployment will rise, and inflation and economic depression will settle in for a long, long time.
These MAGA cult members keep hearing and receiving the same message over and again from these right-wing media outlets and won’t get away from it to hear the truth!
Sad
In conclusion, none of them care what he does and how bad he does. They're glad he was elected to stop the woman from becoming president. It is never about the economy. They should have asked them about the egg prices. Maybe that's a solid priority.
No it's because they are sheep who don't think for themselves, rather switch on opinion hosts so they get their talking points. Once prices start to go up, people dying because of abortion bans or whatever, the left must elevate it to a national level!!
They don’t. They look at the small groups of tariffs that we have in place and think that works. I am sure that worked back in the days of McKinley but they will not work for modern global economy.
trump wrongly argues with experts that the exporter pays the tariff! Anyone with a modicum of sense knows it’s the importer! But makes no difference! A tariff is a tax & raises the cost of an item! Consumers pay the raised price!
Not even Musk understands.
He posted this as a warning that pencils will cost $11? Or that we will make them in the U.S. from local rubber tree supplies?
No, but they will blame Clinton, Obama, Biden and Harris for the negative outcome of their vote. And 95% lack the ability to understand the consequences of their vote.
trump doesn’t know how anything works either! Is on the same wave length as his cult! A huckster who suckers them in & keeps them! No matter how outrageous & unbelievable his lies! Have two in the family! Will listen to no common sense! As if a mist washes across their face! Oblivious! Frustrating!
understanding the math[s] is VERY DISTANT from truly living the reality behind the figures. All political rhetoric and hyperbole snuggles deep in this dissonance duvet.
I think the masses are just told what to think and take the lazy way out. #Murdoch and #GrifterTrump figured that out and then #ElonMusk did too. If prices are so high on groceries (which they are), why did the masses opt to spend more at convenience stores that charge more for eggs than the grocer?
What a survey. Did the folks being surveyed know what they were being asked? In the first section, generally want tariffs, to deport immigrants, and most importantly want lower costs on all things. In the very next question, they admit they know tariffs raise prices, but want them anyway. 🤦🏻♀️
I hate to say it so vividly.
But basically the poor are the walking dead in 2+ years after Trump seizes control. Idk about you, but if I was still President I’d take my chances with history and stop it. 41 million+ cut off of food assistance and M of food workers deported? = mass panic starvation
The scary part of this is that we have to look to the megacorporation lobbyists to put up enough of a fuss to stop this as it will really hurt their bottom lines.
Even so, these corporations are the same ones who will add extra profit to the cost they are passing on if tariffs happen.
The insanity of the MAGA voter who want cheaper prices, approve the levying of tariffs and also acknowledge tariffs will increase prices. You really can’t make this sh!t up.
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Trump did nothing for the economy, yet gets credited because their propaganda works.
The sky is always falling whenever there is a Dem President and the people buy it EVERY TIME.
Yet....no one points these things out in clear language on any msm outlets.
Can’t wait until Temu has to double the prices on their crap fast fashion items to cover those 50% tariffs.
They will have to learn the hard way.
And we will all suffer for their painful lessons.
He is an infallible god-king to them. Their fragile world view won’t let the truth get in the way of that.
The problem is that the “finding out” doesn’t itself matter if most folks can’t or won’t then draw the logical line from “found out” to “oh, Trump caused this!”
We're raised to be consumers, not critical thinkers.
And MAGA still found a way to flunk the test.
“Good Luck” seems like a fucked
up thing to say “at this juncture”
Why not just be
clear & straightforward?
That would be: “Fuck You, America”
Which is fine. FOR PEOPLE WHO
AREN’T AMERICAN.
So, hopefully dude is Canadian.
If not, he deserves to get his ass kicked.
Only parrots who mimic their cult leader. Im sure they gonna blame Biden for the raising prices incoming with those tariffs.
Their racism, I mean "economic anxiety" was just SUCH an important issue
The fate of the incumbent was always going to hinge on the economy. If covid had not happened, much would have been banking on the predicted incoming recession. As it was, the pandemic threw everything off, and people directed their anger at inflation at Biden/Harris.
52% support Trump’s Tariff plans.
Just, WTH?
At least some of them know the two things they want are mutually exclusive, but…
Starting to think they actually believe Trump is a miracle-bestowing God!?!
They favor tariffs on imported goods and acknowledge tariffs will raise prices - which is counter to their primary objective.
Unbelievable.
Three answers.
each contradicts the other two.
And they still can’t figure it out.
we are doomed.
Sound logic /s
And if they can't find a way, they will make one.
https://youtu.be/J5Y3Rm08hOo?si=n8MYaRggc_wZYdTo
The problem is that the questions about lowering prices and tariffs raising prices were asked about 30 seconds apart. That's too long for them to follow logic and stuff.
They’ll flat out kill the stock market, a Trump measurement
Tom Cook successfully lobbied an exemption for Apple, the steel industry filed a ton of exemptions, and lobbyists will be very busy in 2025
Someone's smokin' crack.
I guarantee that 95% of those responders don't know.
And that's why polls are not to be trusted.
IOW, they want to turn the US workforce into a 3rd-world workforce by cutting wages and benefits to the bone.
🤦
It’s not hard math.
me:
https://bsky.app/profile/waltermasterson.bsky.social/post/3lba3lrzquc2g
Sad
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/tariffs-trade-war-agriculture-food-prices/
https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-causes
He posted this as a warning that pencils will cost $11? Or that we will make them in the U.S. from local rubber tree supplies?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859422886789804342?s=46&t=F_k5rEMbWUKg7l5dMJYBlQ
But basically the poor are the walking dead in 2+ years after Trump seizes control. Idk about you, but if I was still President I’d take my chances with history and stop it. 41 million+ cut off of food assistance and M of food workers deported? = mass panic starvation
Even so, these corporations are the same ones who will add extra profit to the cost they are passing on if tariffs happen.