A constitutional amendment usually takes years to pass. This isn’t going to happen overnight. It’s probably never going to happen. It’s just Ogles sticking his nose up the Felon’s ass.
That's fucking special. Could you please sign and share my petition to Jeffries to adopt new strategies, like, now please? https://www.change.org/UNITEANDFIGHT
I guess that's a no? What's up with you big accounts, you don't want to unite with those not on tv? We're all swimming in the same pond, fighting the same battle. We all deserve to be heard and I write kick ass petitions that would work as a collective.
He wrote a built-in cheat for Trump. Anyone who had two terms in a row would not be eligible to run for a third. The rule eliminates everyone but Trump and Grover Cleveland’s ghost. Republicans are always cheating.
I knew it. I fucking knew it! I absolutely called this months ago! This mother fucker is out of control. We have got to fight back harder than EVER people
Trump’s mind and body are deteriorating faster than the speed of sound. He’d be 86 at the end of a third term. I think not! The country will hopefully be at a boiling point of regret and rage in four years—all directed at Trump, MAGA, Trump’s Oligarchs, and the Republicans. In their dreams!
1. It’s one guy
2. It will never get 2/3 vote in both houses, much less 3/4 of state legislatures
3. Trump will be probably be dead by the time it is ratifies
4. Obama would run again and beat Trump
I pray you're right but the problem is, some of the things we thought he could NEVER do, he has been able to pull off! Just the fact that this has been put out there is so dangerous.
Your first three points are right - but if you read the proposal, it’s carefully written so Trump could run for a 3rd term but not Obama ie “can’t run for a 3rd after two consecutive terms”. So it’s basically tailored for Trump and (presumably) Zombie Grover Cleveland.
But Michelle could run and have Barack as her VICE PRESIDENT, which is perfectly legal. Is Bill Clinton were to be someone's vice presidential running mate even though he served two consecutive terms as president. There's no law against a former president serving as a vice president for another
Why are you magnifying this. You know there is no chance in hell this will pass. This is why no one is watching MSNBC anymore. Please act like a sober woman of dignity and report the actual news.
More people need to listen to the Shrinking Trump podcast. I don't think he'll be able to function enough to be used as a puppet through the end of this term. His dementia symptoms are getting more obvious and worse. He was struggling to undo a button with both of his tiny hands the other day.
The Orange Reich said this was the last time we'll vote, he meant it. Straight out of Putin and other dictators playbook. Not great? Yeah. Along with black bagging unmarked vans, loyalty oaths to work. It's coming.
Again the Orange Reich's handlers don't care. He could be a scooped out husk, as long as he has a pulse they'll keep him around. Vance is in the wings but he's an idiot in a different way. Not like we will get to vote in 4 years anyway.
Fred refused to step down even while dying of dementia (Alzheimer’s), they built him a fake office.
Maryanne Trump Barry died of dementia at 86.
Donald’s incontinent, can’t drink w one hand, gait & balance probs, word salads -deteriorating in front of us.
Republicans are trying to see how many terms a president can serve.
Trump has been telling his supporters they wouldn't have to vote ever again. However, he promised to end the ukraine war in one day and lower prices.
Delusional! I know they can’t see past their orange colored glasses, but have they even LOOKED at trump lately?? He’s so dilapidated and decrepit that it will be a miracle if he lives past 2025 🤣
So let's see to do this 2/3 of House and Senate with 3/4 of state legislations need to approve.
House needs 290, 220 repukes
Senate needs 67, 53 repukes
State needs 38, 28 belong to repukes.
Guess not
Autocrats have mafia rules. There is no rule of law for Trump and his appointees. The Maduro model of governance is that they don't care even if the country becomes a failed state. They stay in power with the help of other mafia style autocrats (Read "Autocracy, Inc." by Anne Applebaum).
And likely to divert attention from Ogles' current looming investigation woes as he is Santos-lite in terms of campaign finance crime. He also put forth a bill to ok seizing Greenland - someone desperately wants to be noticed and rewarded with a pardon down the line...
You'd think the media would recognize that or at least call it what it is.
But no, so here we are. This is why I canceled cable news and every major newspaper. They just keep fucking us over.
Grandstanding or not, it’s dangerous. If he wants a 3rd term, he will find a way to get it🤨 why does no one seem to understand this by now. The truly exhausting part is that Dems don’t understand that he’s serious and act accordingly. 🤨
It takes 2/3 majority in House and Senate and then 3/4 of states ratifying. No way that happens. Let's resist where it's needed not where they want us to.
It's taken me almost 10 years to realize the game plan they employ. We're all so predictably scared and outraged over it all, that they slide the worst stuff by while the most publicized is being argued about.
Yup, that's what I thought at first too when I saw this, "Obama would smoke DJT in the battle for a 'third' term'. But the wording is something like 'if the two terms aren't consecutive, they should get a shot at a third'.
An amendment can be proposed by a 2/3 vote of BOTH the House and Senate, but it then must be ratified (approved) by 3/4 of the states, or 38 states. Not going to happen!
I always have the same question! I’m realizing that all of my friends and family members who didn’t follow Schoolhouse Rock/hated history, are the same people who voted for this craziness. 🤢
The words “well regulated militia” mean nothing. Birthright citizenship is gone. Apparently you don’t need to change the constitution. You just ignore or change your interpretation.
This! Does anyone know how Constitutional Amendments work? If we had a functioning democracy the ERA amendment would have passed within 40 years but it did not. Hint on process.
This was always goin to be part of him winning this time. He said as much multiple times. Anyone who voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all in 24 voted for Trump for life.
The next step is some sort of attack - a bomb, a fire, an assassination. Something that appears to be the work of left wing Americans. Something that will give Republicans an excuse to give Trump "temporary" abilities for "protecting" the government.
No, it will happen soon. It will be something that allows Congress to suspend the constitution completely. Something that will allow them to given Trump the ability to make law without Congress.
That is exactly what it would be. The Reichstag fire was blamed on the communists and a member of the Communist Party admitted setting the fire, but there is evidence that the Nazi's were involved.
It gets scarier every day to me, the realization of what seems to be happening in the U.S. I don't want to believe it, but it's undeniable. And the fact that so few can grasp this reality keeps me awake at night. I have to keep telling myself they are outnumbered. But sometimes I even question that.
I heard those stories on MPR. One can start to understand how easy it can be for authoritarians to seize power. Sadly, the U.S. feels ripe for the picking.
That’s because they figured out how to rig the election for good. Trump was projecting in 2020 about it being rigged. He did it, but they fell short. They fucked up. This time they had Elon and his very expensive programmers to ensure it got done for sure.
It is. BUT...
I'm just imagining the wonderful schadenfreude when old man me tunes my holo-television to C-SPAN π to watch the 3rd inauguration of like Julián Castro or AOC or Andy Kim.
Don't worry. His fat Big Mac-fed ass won't live that long. It would also require a Constitutional Amendment which is a long slow process requiring ratification by 3/4 of the states. 38 states would have to approve before it would become law.
Fortunately, you need 2/3 of both houses of Congress to pass it and then you need 3/4 of the states to ratify it. DOA, but it might motivate resistance to the Fuhrer.
He's not leaving. He pardoned the insurrectionists to become his private militia. He will not willingly leave, and January 6, 2021, will look like a picnic compared to what will happen.
It'd be unconstitutional and challenged most likely in court if he did it by EO since it explicitly says in our constitution a candidate can't havr more than two terms. Which is why his birthright citizenship EO is being sued by multiple states for the unconstitutional EO, even block in W.A
Yes, I know that, his entire existence is unconstitutional with how he looks. We know that, but if it's going through CONGRESS it still applys, and if it were an EO he'd be sued for it being unconstitutional, just like his birthright citizenship EO that was blocked. But it isn't an EO surprisingly.
True, but keep in mind how long Republicans live, i.e. Strom Thurmond, Bob Dole, Chuck Grassley, etc. He will eventually go, but when is the big question. I hope you are right. I dread the thought that the rest of my life will be under him as president. 🤢
If you are only scared of *this guy* and do not see how he has built up this much support and all the people who will be happy to continue this work past his death, and the really distressing lack of resistance to most of it from the opposition, you have not been paying attention.
If it was just a distraction’ why did Trump tell Bob Woodward’ in the recorded interviews for his book ‘Rage’ ( with Trump’s permission) that some were talking about a ‘third’ term back in 2020-before he lost ..🤷♀️ Feel free to look up The Trump tapes on Amazon and hear for yourself…
This is why it’s criminal that we’ve been discouraged from learning both critical thinking and how to think about SYSTEMS instead of people, in the ongoing attacks on education in the US. You don’t look at any one thing in isolation. You look at the trends and the networks of people.
With all the deniers and FOX calling 45 President from 2021 until they found a vote count they liked… so this is kind of an unconstitutional 3rd term.
Mr. sharpie pen has done more than enough. F MAGA
Amending the Constitution takes 2/3 vote in both houses of Congress or 2/3 of the states call a Constitutional Convention. The margins right now will never allow that.
Ogles has been under investigation for ethics violations for a year. A few weeks ago there were reports it was worsening for him. He's probably trying to save himself.
Andy Ogles is under FBI investigation right now and will most likely be forced to resign, may even go to prison. This is to distract from that investigation
To amend the United States Constitution, you need to follow a process that involves both Congress and state legislatures. The process is outlined in Article V of the Constitution.
Proposing an amendment
Congress
Two-thirds of both the House of Representatives and the Senate must pass the amendment
State legislatures
Two-thirds of state legislatures can ask Congress to call a convention to propose amendments
Ratifying an amendment
State legislatures: Three-fourths of state legislatures must approve the amendment
State ratifying conventions: Three-fourths of state ratifying conventions must approve the amendment
The amendment process
The process is difficult and time consuming
That's why this why was elected again. People getting excited about something that is purposely difficult and pretty near impossible, even for things that are helpful!
Relax Molly. They would need 2/3 of Congress and then 3/4 of states. Not gonna happen. If they pursue it as a political statement or distraction,it will backfire.
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For the Republicans to go along with this they must be making huge payouts. There is no way it's only loyalty to Trump. They know how dangerous he is. They know he is not qualified to run this country. Something big on it for them.
The good news is that the chances of such an amendment making it all the way to approval are all but non-existent.
The bad news is that a MAGA bootlicker wants to create a president-for-life. That always works out so well! Just ask North Korea, Russia, China, Zimbabwe, etc.
It says no person to be elected to a third term after two consecutive terms, so it does prohibit any other living president who served two terms in a row. A constitutional amendment just for Trump. JFC.
Couldn’t that be interpreted as you can’t run for a third consecutive. Since there was a gap, Obama wouldn’t be running directly after serving two terms.
Proposed amendment: “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms…”
Putin didn’t even bother with an amendment. He just signed it into law that he could go on as leader forever as long as the people continue to “elect” him.
Can you say “executive order”?
That may be true but he’s a human being still, not Thanos lol. That’s all I’m pointing out. His policies can do damage for years & years to come but I don’t think he’ll live forever.
Of course this should be a flat no up and down the chain, but I don’t think soon-to-be 80-year old Donald Trump will even be able to complete his current term.
I disagree. If they want to waste time and effort on a near-impossible constitutional amendment, I welcome it. And Trump is, in the last analysis, a mortal human being.
Period we keep hearing u oh!! As if he is a GoD!!! HE IS NOT! We will have to fight and if we must to get it country back then so be it!!! They want us to live in fear!
People should be asking Andy Ogles "why would President Trump need a third term, are you saying he's too weak and ineffective to enact an agenda after two terms?"
If you're in Tennesee's 5th district call him at (202) 225-4311 or contact him through his OF at https://ogles.house.gov/ and ask him this very pertinent question 😀
According to the wording of the proposal, anyone who had two consecutive terms already cannot run, barring Obama and Biden from running for a third. He wrote it like that specifically to help only Trump.
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2. It will never get 2/3 vote in both houses, much less 3/4 of state legislatures
3. Trump will be probably be dead by the time it is ratifies
4. Obama would run again and beat Trump
and fucking take the thing back by occupation
4 years is too long and there's zero reason to sit through this bullshit again
These fuckers mixed me white tho 😂
I'll Karen the Landback
idgaf about some legacy OR being a good ancestor
They done fucked up huge with me
Or elections.
I was about to say something about bucktoothed mfs, but now I'm 🧘♀️
Thanks for sharing.
Interesting.
Maryanne Trump Barry died of dementia at 86.
Donald’s incontinent, can’t drink w one hand, gait & balance probs, word salads -deteriorating in front of us.
Trump has been telling his supporters they wouldn't have to vote ever again. However, he promised to end the ukraine war in one day and lower prices.
prez jd?
He would eat that MFs lunch.
House needs 290, 220 repukes
Senate needs 67, 53 repukes
State needs 38, 28 belong to repukes.
Guess not
Be breathing in four years.
We need it.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/what-did-congressman-andy-ogles-do-with-nearly-25-000-meant-for-child-burial-garden-he-wont-say
Don’t get it twisted.
He can’t leave power, he knows it
But no, so here we are. This is why I canceled cable news and every major newspaper. They just keep fucking us over.
This administration will tear down any law or precedent that stands in their way.
Dems are such a disappointment
Bonus benefit - Alt text annoys the heck out of Trump and Musk.
#Resist
#MakeMAGAmad
#NoFascists
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It is just some stupid performative crap on the GOP's part.
I'm just imagining the wonderful schadenfreude when old man me tunes my holo-television to C-SPAN π to watch the 3rd inauguration of like Julián Castro or AOC or Andy Kim.
That's how bad it is.
Being a giant piece of shit that runs on fast food and hate can only keep the corpse moving for so long. Right?
Right??
RIGHT????
I seriously doubt he'll live through this one.
Big Macs and hate are a ticking time bomb.
Mr. sharpie pen has done more than enough. F MAGA
If you’re even legally allowed to vote at that point.
Function? No. Even hate and narcissism can only carry you so far before the terminal vegetative state.
Run Obama again!
Proposing an amendment
Congress
State legislatures
Two-thirds of state legislatures can ask Congress to call a convention to propose amendments
State legislatures: Three-fourths of state legislatures must approve the amendment
State ratifying conventions: Three-fourths of state ratifying conventions must approve the amendment
The amendment process
The process is difficult and time consuming
Many proposed amendments never reach ratification
Once an amendment is ratified, it is considered part of the Constitution
The lack of knowledge is breathtaking!
That's why this why was elected again. People getting excited about something that is purposely difficult and pretty near impossible, even for things that are helpful!
The bad news is that a MAGA bootlicker wants to create a president-for-life. That always works out so well! Just ask North Korea, Russia, China, Zimbabwe, etc.
The only real Dem potus in my life has been Biden, but he's too old.
We need new, progressive, true Dem leaders. And not Kamala either (though I proudly voted for her, as I have Dems every time since Bill Clinton).
Can you say “executive order”?
Cuz I fking told everyone.
This is theater, no? There's no possibility of it being ratified. Hell, there's even great doubt whether Trump will last throughout his current term.
I don’t think it could get ratified.
-Lao Tzu
Pointless fealty display.