Explicit antisemitic attitudes are now much more common among young voters - 18 year old registered voters are now ~5x more likely to say that they have an unfavorable view of the Jewish people than 65 year olds.
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Because young people in their formative years are now getting their “news” and opinions from unvetted, unedited on-line sources that are supported by a combination of OG anti-semites, anti-American foreign influencers, and crackpot conspiracy-theory-spreading billionaires.
Good question. I guess it comes down to the example a parent wants to set & the degree to which they embrace or abdicate the responsibility of being their children’s primary teacher. You hope you can build a strong core ethic so they can discern good from bad when bad is easy & has a bigger budget.
I don't get it, Hating you for any reason, (Other than maybe your an ass whole) is uncalled for. If you accept it, for any reason, you give your permission for all reasons.
If you did this survey in Gaza you would see an entire generation poised for retribution against Israel. America could contribute to a better solution there, insisting on fair and equal treatment for Palestinians in Israel. Instead we supplied bombs and now we even promote expelling Paletinians.
Do you have a link to the survey and its questions? This survey was taken in the fall at the height of online anti-Israeli sentiment over Gaza deaths. I’m curious how the survey parsed out Israelis from Jews and what the preceding questions were. I definitely see more anti-Israeli govt sentiment.
The questions are literally stated in the graphic accompanying the post. They separated Jews from Israelis by asking about Jews and not mentioning Israelis.
That's the opposite of separating them, but honestly it's probably a mute point. I don't think a big enough chunk of people have differentiated "Jews" from "Israelis" to skew results like this.
I see, so if a survey asked, “Do you like grapefruit?” it would produce misleading results for not explicitly stating that the question wasn’t asking about attitudes to salmon?
I have a perception (and maybe I’m incorrect) from my 3 college and recently graduated kids that there is a differentiation in young people. Maybe it skews by education level or where they live. By kids have Jewish friends who are against the Israeli government. That’s why I like to see source data.
Education is definitely a factor, having Jewish friends is definitely a factor. But if this trend is correct, this shift cannot be explained by those factors.
I like to see all the questions preceding the questions posted in a graph. I also like to see who did the polling and the methods they used. It’s always good to see the source.
Newsflash: It’s because of the errant conflation of Judaism with allegiance to the State of Israel, which you’re completely silent about. Or are the war crimes under the cover of religion ok in this case because the victims are Arab?
I'd like to see the context for this question. I suspect it may be biased by feelings toward the current Israeli government's actions, vs. Jewish people as a whole. I know that my opinion of Israel has significantly soured over the years, despite having a positive opinion of Jewish people.
It doesn’t matter *why* people say they have a generically negative view of Jews. There’s no reason for having a generically negative view of Jews which can rescue the person from being correctly labelled an antisemite.
Well, IMO it takes a certain level of sophistication and experience to understand the difference between a government and an identity. Also IMO, you have to ask yourself - is your goal to label more people as antisemites, or do you want to educate them to understand the distinction?
I don’t have a goal. I didn’t conduct the survey. But I agree with you that antisemites are often foolish and unsophisticated; that offers them no defence though.
I should have used "one" instead of "you" - I was not addressing you specifically. I agree with you, but I think foolishness and lack of sophistication are correctable, so determining the source of the viewpoint is relevant. My goal is to reduce antisemitism, not to defend it.
Not sure if you saw this, but worth a look. You can’t trust the data from opt-in surveys. As someone who has done opt-in surveys and nationally representative sampling surveys, they tap completely different populations (questionable populations too)
I wasn’t actually referring to the specific data, rather to the general concept that someone who answers that question in that way is correctly labelled an antisemite.
The state that self-represents as ‘the Jewish state’ and tries to conflate its actions with all of Judaism and the Jewish people just carried out a genocide so yeah I can see where this came from. People should be furious with Israel for its actions and its propaganda efforts that caused this
Blaming all Jews for what Israel's government does is as ridiculous as blaming all Muslims for what Saudi Arabia's government does or all Hindus for what India's government does. Many of the most opposed to Netanyahu in the US are Jewish Americans.
Yeah you got him, he’s a rabbi so he’s biased against antisemitism. Aren’t you American? Focus on the fascism taking root in your country please. You could learn a lot from the resistance movement in Israel…
I.ll warrent much is because so many people conflate Israel the geo political state with Judaism. That is a direct result of Israel government calling those protesting it's activities as anti-Semites. Stupid as all peoples in the region are Semites.
The result of Islamist long game strategy by Islamic countries Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. that for decades have poured billions of $$$ to Universities in the West to finance pro Islam Academia, Campus Org., NGOs,and antisemitic propaganda, fueled now by far-left and BDS, & social media trolls.
I too don’t understand the difference between correlation and causation. Good thing I’m a professor and it’s quite literally my job to at least be familiar with such concepts.
The real issue here is that the anti Israel takes are terrible even if they aren't motivated by antisemitism. Naivete can be far more dangerous than hate.
Noam Chomsky isn’t the arbiter of who is or isn’t a Jew. He’s also a hypocritical sack of shit, who has no problem defending genocides as long as they’re being perpetrated by socialist governments.
Sorry did you read the fucking chart? Hating Jews might be the one true bipartisan issue left at this point. And in the US, like all terrible views, Republicans will defend their lead jealously
Maybe.. but it also could be watching the pain and suffering of people of Gaza being bombed. I have a lot of Jew friends..most are amazing people but a couple were thrilled when Trump won. I don't view them with the same respect anymore.
JFC. I sorta thought it was just the “I love Hitler” post. I guess you can say literally anything (other than “cisgender”) on Twitter and not get it deleted/get banned. That’s, like, cartoonishly antisemitic, the kind that would even make MTG blush (in public)
This is quite shocking. We have seen there is quite a gap between M/F amongst younger people on many issues, with young men tending more conservative for the first time in generations. I wonder what the M/F split is in this data
this is Netanyahu and Israel’s fault, directly. the regime’s insistence—with domestic collaboration from groups like the ADL—that the modern apartheid state of Israel and “the Jewish People” are synonymous. They very much aren’t. Or at least, ideally they shouldn’t be.
Israel’s prosecution of the war against Hamas, as well as Netanyahu’s lengthy roster of other crimes plays a big part in this, I think. They conflate Netanyahu with all Israelis, and Jews with Israel, and are too immature to understand why that’s wrong.
The fact that they get all their information from TikTok doesn’t help; it’s not as though there are people out there teaching accurate history while mixing up a grotesque water concoction in their four gallon Stanley
Makes sense, with age comes (supposedly) wisdom.
But a distinction should be made between antisemitism and anti-Zionism, or anti-current Israel policies.
Is it anti-semitic or just Anti-Israeli (difficult to see the difference if talking about the Jewish people perhaps) but the actions of Israel would surely lead to a more negative perception. I am vehemently opposed to Israeli actions, but no problem with Jews per se.
If someone ticks a box saying, in these actual words, “I have an unfavourable attitude towards Jewish people,” then no, it isn’t reasonable to question whether or not they’re antisemitic. They *are*.
I would disagree. The state and religion are so intertwined it would be naive to credit everyone with making the distinction. Even amongst a sophisticated populace, which it often proves not to be
It would be interesting to see the numbers for all religions. I have a feeling younger people are just gravitating away form all organized religion. [I'm not saying Jews aren't higher; just that the overall trends may not be that out of line.]
Young kids spend a lot of time on places like TikTok and YouTube where "edgy" young people post shocking comments because they're young and stupid. Antisemitism is shocking and easy to write.
And everything they see in the world confirms what they hear.
All the see is Israel committing war crimes and genocides and Jewish group like the ADL supporting this genocide as well as supporting anti semites like musk
The comments online are people who have Hitler references in their usernames and tell Jewish commenters to "hop in the oven." So miss me with that facile nonsense.
There are quite a few different comments online and you didn’t refer specifically to any.
I don’t think those ones are especially popular.
I certainly hope not and that is not what the survey is referring to
Modern Zionism is the fulfillment of the 2,000+ year old aspiration of the Jewish People to return to and re-establish a state in our ancestral homeland. In the Tanakh, it is referred to as Shivat Tzion. Denying us this right is actual Jewhatred as opposed to your claim which is fallacious at best.
The question used is right on the bottom. Jewish people.
TikTok and YouTube comments sections are soaked in casual edgy young people being virulently antisemitic. My children have spoken to me about it, concerned.
"Untroubled, scornful, outrageous - that is how wisdom wants us to be: she is a woman and never loves anyone but a warrior."
Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
It is like the young folk don’t know about the holocaust. I don’t recall that we were taught about that topic (educated in the 50’s and 60’s in Canada) but maybe it was dealt with more often in the press and tv.
Yeah, that image doesn't really work in this context because a Jewish state really does exist and its recent actions has had a massive effect on the general opinion young people have of Jewish people. Not saying that's right or fair, but denialism helps no one.
So what you’re saying is that Islamophobia is actually caused by Muslims states grossly violating human rights of minority groups within their borders, and Muslim individuals committing acts of terrorism? Or would it be Islamophobic to imply that Islamophobia is caused by Muslims?
my contention is that "the jewish state" is not a legitimate justification for antisemitism like it seems to be being presented as. at BEST it's an explanation, and at worst it's an excuse, and these people were antisemitic regardless of israel. which judging by the replies, is the case.
The Jewish state is responsible for YOUR antisemitism? That's just classic bigotry justifying itself. Also *hate*. it used to be people who considered themselves progressives didn't go in for that. Yes, INCLUDING against people they considered their enemies. People today are such a dilettantes.
You probably Don't. I despise netanyahu and anything beyond the 1967 borders. I think using the word genocide incorrectly is immoral. And I think like Sharon and Bibi, Hamas and Arafat are at a minimum equal to blame. And most people I know feel the same way.
No sweetheart. You guys don’t know what genocide is. Genocide is what occurred on October 7. It’s about intent.
But people like you excused October 7th.
There's a definition in the Genocide Convention.
What happened Oct 7th were horrible crimes but not genocide. What the IDF did to the ppl in Gaza and the West Bank afterwards, actually, meets that definition. ISR had the intent and carpet-bombed w 2000lb bombs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
No, people who *hate* another country are terrible people. People who hate Israel are just Jew haters. What somebody like you, who's not real focussed on making sense, don't know is loads of people both Jews and not CRITICIZE things Israel is DOING. You're not them.
If you're willing to say 'yes' to a question like 'do you have an unfavorable opinion of jews' I'm inclined to believe you. It's not a harmless "joke" response.
The Pew Research says that young respondents in opt-in panels tend to answer "Yes" to questions, irrespective of the content. Possible a lot aren't even reading the question.
It sounds like Blue Rose takes measures to weed out people who are just clicking through questions with random answers. If it's true that young people are much more likely to ignore the questions in polls about serious issues, that's not exactly flattering, imo.
It's totally fair to believe them when they say yes. But insincerity can go across multiple questions. They can falsely represent themselves as Harris supporters so that they can use the survey data to their advantage later.
There's also a genocide geralizability problem with non-random sampling.
It's also possible that this survey entirely accurate.
Israel has been shouting "WE ARE JUDAISM" while conducting a genocide for over a year now. If you don't know to keep Israel and "Jewish people generally" separate... you're gonna come away with some unsavory opinions about Jewish folks.
But polling methods matter. Questions asked matter. And comparisons over time tell us more than a pinpoint in time. I trust polls that tell me all of this. A graph with no context doesn’t really do any good to get at a root cause of why this “may” be changing in young people.
People are hypothesizing the causes. I appreciate Natalie's point that young people are more likely to post bogus responses to opt-in polls, but it seems to me that toxic views aren't treated seriously by the youngs.
The fact that it's opt-in is an issue & I'd like to see more of the methodology, but the fact that young people are such an outlier is still concerning.
I think I am stating the obvious. Young people protested what was going on in Gaza more than other age groups. Israel self-identifies as a majority Jewish state. Not much off a reach to think some young people developed a negative opinion of Jewish people because of Israel/Gaza. BTW, I'm not young.
and i’m stating that’s a bigoted and un-okay world view to accept and normalize and deem okay or reasonable. it wasn’t okay when the world did it to muslims post 9/11. it’s not okay now. this isn’t a hard thing to agree to.
I am offering a possible explanation for a poll. I'm not trying to "normalize" anything. I do not agree with these young people. But I don't see the benefit of sticking our head in the sand about why they feel the way they do. If polls prior to Gaza don't show this result, it's probably Gaza.
I want to see this data lined up with young voters views on Black people, Muslims, LGTBQ folks. I suspect that there is more explicit bias against many groups right now, because we live in a time of permissive group-based hatred.
I don't think so. US support for Israel is increasingly a republican thing. So yeah, American support for Israel is on a downward spirale and that's good.
If you can say what has been going on in the West Bank the last 20 years is the “side of right”, you have a big problem. The illegal settlements, taking all the best land, law enforcement turning a blind eye to the “wilding” attacks on Palestians are the definition of ethnic cleansing.
As a dem who raised (now adult) kids in red area, their skin is VERY permeable to prevailing attitudes. "What everyone else thinks (including elementary teachers expressing views) vs "what seemingly idiosyncratic parent thinks" is very difficult to overcome.
Is it possible this is just picking up anti-Israel attitudes? I would not be surprised if some people cannot distinguish between the two. Awful either way though
The Likud regime in Israel *wants* its critics overseas to become radicalized into anti-semitism because it makes it easier to discredit those critics, and they don't care about the safety of non-Israeli Jews.
There is a difference, I hope, between Jews and the Jewish state. Just as there is a difference between Americans and the US government. Americans are hated in many places due to what the American government does.
What I was trying to point out was the difference between humans and the state, something many people don't realize, and need to be educated on, ie dialogue. Snublesteiner, ie, stones in the pavement which make people trip and think. Peace.
I guess I'm trying to accommodate for someone stupid enough to mix up Israelis and Jews. Not a fan of either opinion but trying to disentangle it either way
What was the question? Do you have an unfavourable opinion of jewish people 1) That is not the same as hatred 2) many if not most of the world have an unfavourable opinion of American people too, particularly under Trump.
And yet no one talks of the ‘scourge of anti Americanism’
it’s cause & effect
Yet to be accurate, we'd have to break it down to a spectrum of those favoring use of some Force versus full-on Bibism. But that's way too poll based and scientific for social media, and what passes for the Russian fed "left".
That the Israeli government (defending itself against an array of terrorist entities with genocidal intent) should be to blame for Americans harbouring antisemitic beliefs is itself a textbook illustration of an antisemitic attitude.
WHY?!? 😢
It makes no sense to me! We are ALL humans! The only ones I have a dislike for, are the evil, nasty, greedy ones…like the new *administration. 😡
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In the states, criticizing Israel in any way is considered antisemitism. Kinda skews the data.
And your second sentence is just a silly lie.
Instead of getting your panties in a bunch maybe try pressuring Israel into murdering fewer children
Where is the link to the ACTUAL poll behind this??
This looks like INCREDIBLY FAKE BS 🙄
Who is enabling Islamic extremism and apologizing for them, that is group that deserves condemnation.
C’mon the poster said the “corrected” the title.. that doesn’t make you suspicious that they didn’t make the ENTIRE THING up?? 🙄
Seems in line with some Gallup surveys, but they haven't publicly released this exact data.
👂🏽 🦗🦗🦗
If you really are part of a polling outfit… this is INCREDIBLY poor and unprofessional hackism 🙄
But a distinction should be made between antisemitism and anti-Zionism, or anti-current Israel policies.
All the see is Israel committing war crimes and genocides and Jewish group like the ADL supporting this genocide as well as supporting anti semites like musk
I don’t think those ones are especially popular.
I certainly hope not and that is not what the survey is referring to
TikTok and YouTube comments sections are soaked in casual edgy young people being virulently antisemitic. My children have spoken to me about it, concerned.
And what were the questions?
"Untroubled, scornful, outrageous - that is how wisdom wants us to be: she is a woman and never loves anyone but a warrior."
Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
https://bsky.app/profile/valencedavis.bsky.social/post/3lhre6yyzoc2p
But people like you excused October 7th.
What happened Oct 7th were horrible crimes but not genocide. What the IDF did to the ppl in Gaza and the West Bank afterwards, actually, meets that definition. ISR had the intent and carpet-bombed w 2000lb bombs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
First time for everything.
There's also a genocide geralizability problem with non-random sampling.
Israel has been shouting "WE ARE JUDAISM" while conducting a genocide for over a year now. If you don't know to keep Israel and "Jewish people generally" separate... you're gonna come away with some unsavory opinions about Jewish folks.
There's a certain cohort of Gen Z that is extremely politically active and they're the ones that tend to answer these online surveys
It's easy to use world leaders as a scapegoat for personal agency.
"The whole world's on my motherfucking shoulders
And I can't seem to control it
I can't contain it
And I just don't give a shit"
https://youtu.be/kLumLALNG7M?si=RFGNn0SwsCIdPUIs
Hope this helps
The fascists are islamic extremists surrounding Israel.
Israel keeps saying it "Speaks For THE Jews",
so the poll question is about Israel.
Tell Israel to stop their antisemitism.
And yet no one talks of the ‘scourge of anti Americanism’
it’s cause & effect
2. That’s not my fault.
That’s antisemitism.
It makes no sense to me! We are ALL humans! The only ones I have a dislike for, are the evil, nasty, greedy ones…like the new *administration. 😡