according to the poll, which i saw somewhere, 35% answered the riot was justifiable. you will definitely agree if you watch only fox or you are a red hat moron. that's what it is.
I remember when Jonathan Turkey wasn't surly.
It was of course a long time ago, but I could have sworn he wasn't this way like ten years ago. Like never tRumper Vance and others - what does tRump do to these people?
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It is odd, isn't it? The Orange Clown has a special talent for attracting marks and taking them for all they are worth. But why are our public servants, industry and businessmen, falling for it?
I’m still not sure how pardoning insurrectionists helps our nation heal. It only states that there are no consequences for behavior that’s detrimental to society. We need more punishment not less. Our society has been corrupted by this pandering.
A distinction needs to be made between those who were peacefully if obnoxiously protesting, those who protested yet trespassed, & the actual insurrectionists
Somehow we all decided to pretend as if disrupting official meetings / deliberation & trespassing isn't something our side does as protest
Correct yet I'm referring to how we discuss it. There is hardly ever any distinction made which considering we are the ones who actually regularly protest seems to be another example of us putting emotions before thinking how our rhetoric or actions could backfire
I think allowing 45 to run again, much less get re-elected, proved that there are no consequences for behavior that's detrimental to society. There are also no consequences for being a generally horrible human being.
He uses very non-professorial arguments.
He says we can’t incarcerate our way out of trumpism. (trumpism is a strawman not why they are incarcerated), so a “morally repellant” act is the solution.
If you’re not convinced you’re part of the problem - a debate fallacy called false dilemma.
"...Professor Waters is passive-aggressive and arrogant, which when paired with dry lectures makes for a very miserable class experience. I would recommend taking a different section of 456."
Healing a fractured nation starts with FAFO. A bunch of people F’d A and now they are F’ing O that actions have consequences. If you do the crime, you must do the time.
They tried something like that with Napoleon and he came back stronger and pettier than ever. Had to off him in the end, just for a bit of peace and quiet. Just saying...
After decades of ET cooperation fron the dark side of the moon, Fox admits Trump is a clone that had flaws that escaped.
META says I can reveal that now.
Same can be said about Ingred Jacques. She issued an “opinion” piece that we will be better under T than Biden b/c Biden is putting warning labels on alcohol. Noticeably silent was Jacques when T banned vapes…they will make up any shit to appease their idol
He shouldn’t do shit except try to keep the terrorists in prison. They have learned zero except big daddy gonna let them out to continue their hate and racism.
To the insurrectionists … if there is a judgement you know your guilt and you will have to answer & it’s going to be harder on you. You planned or joined in a mob desirous to murder innocent people: you’re eternally damned period. Murder, attempted or completed is unpardonable. You’re going to hell.
You're a lawyer, so I'll ask. Is there any way a commutation would force them to live with the felonies on their record for the rest of their lives? Because that's the only way this could remotely make sense.
...or can Trump just pardon them after commutation anyway?
I'm so sick and tired of "opinion pieces" by people who we don't know or care about boosted by greedy oligarchs to make a new feudalism. Who cares what any of these bought and paid for scholars think 😡
A start would be the orange guy taking responsibility for his actions has he even said anything about the 140+ police that were injured? Like “I’m sorry my supporters are pieces of 💩 and attacked police because I lied”
What sane person writes and article like this? Pardon? The INSURRECTIONISTS??? Like say the sentence out loud. They got off easy doing a few years in the pen.
What an incredibly stupid idea! Here's what Biden should do in the next coupla days: Release Jack Smith's report on trump's theft of govt. docs in Mara Lago. After all, Biden's got immunity!
I REALLY doubt Trump would actually go through with it...maybe with a few select people, but not the whole of them. So...goad Biden into something Trump likely wouldn't follow through on...
He 'should'... just to goad Trump back.
Take maybe 3 who pled guilty to some low level offence (not the trespass, or entering the building...), and who has shown actual remorse, and pardon them.
True...though if he only does it for those who showed true remorse (which is what, MAYBE 5 of them...), it would only leave those who would do it again to get pardons (or still in jail...). Trump may have the final say - but he'll have a lot of internal opposition to actually doing it.
He doesn't care about powerful people who took the fall for him. He gives less of a shit about his supporters. Especially the ones who can't vote because, like him, they're felons
Same reason it's always the violence/rape/abuse victims that need to "forgive and forget". Because everyone else just wants the victim to drop it so they (everyone else) won't have to think about the awful things that happened anymore.
When there is no court, there is no law. When there is no law, we have anarchy. That's the point. Republicans, working with our enemies, are creating anarchy. There will be terrible consequences, and they will happen very soon. People are just starting to process this.
Our nation will heal when the orange guy and his insurrectionists are held accountable for their crimes. They are not so special to treat them differently than the rest of us.
I live in DC and it is infuriating, although not surprising, that there is absolutely no discussion about what a slap in the face to city residents this would be. These thugs terrorized our city on the 2nd scariest day since 9/11, but no one cares.
Fuck that shit. If I'd had my way, they'd all have been swinging from lamp posts on 1/7. And their bloated orange leader with them. You don't cuddle a nest of vipers.
I keep reading ,”healing our fractured country” which is out and out bullshite. The right wants capitulation not healing. So they need to just stop. Healing. SMH.
Not that BS line again! Has South Africa's Truth and Conciliation process healed them? No, it just let the guilty off scot-free to do it all over again.
Timothy William Waters really thinks the insurrections are going to become peaceful humble citizens of the United States if allowed out of jail by the guy who lit their hate with gasoline and a blow torch. TWill TWat will soon be citizen of TrumpElon.
How is that a start to heal a fractured nation? This would send a signal that it’s ok, and will usher in a new wave of violence as the norm. We can’t normalize this type of behavior whenever people don’t get what they want. #lemmings
You make an excellent point. And, just imagine how emboldened those J6 convicts will be. I wonder if every lever has been used to keep those people convicted &/or in jail? Remember, we all believed Eagle was Nat'l Bird until last month. I bet there is some obscure law on books that could stop 🤡
Fuck that. And when they’re done they fuck all the way off. I saw that too and thought WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK and how disconnected from reality can one be?
Pardoning the crimes of the insurrectionists will heal the nation?
That's what the GOP & Ford told us when they freed Nixon from prosecution.
The divisions in this country continued to grow & their '73 OLC memo continued to empower Republican presidents.
None of those people should ever be pardoned. I can't believe anyone would say that after we all saw with our own eyes in real time what was going on. They should remain in prison for a long time. Every single one of them.
😡🤬 Absolutely NOT! That would be a disastrous precedent! We would wind ip having one of those every year! They should have been punished with life in prison. Period.
so many of those folks still firmly believe in the lies that were told. they do not accept accountability for what they’ve done and the people they put in harm’s way.
w/o full admission and acceptance of responsibility, they should rot.
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And I’m guessing that by now our phones have all auto corrected his name to Turkey at least once, right? Fitting.
It was of course a long time ago, but I could have sworn he wasn't this way like ten years ago. Like never tRumper Vance and others - what does tRump do to these people?
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My Opinion: Put Donald Trump in prison with the Jan. 6ers.
That's it. That's all. I can flesh it out a bit to make the word count if need be.
What's wrong is not the quantity of the punishments but the usefulness.
Your actual crooks become presidents and most of your helpless impoverished people get slapped. Starting to see the problem?
Somehow we all decided to pretend as if disrupting official meetings / deliberation & trespassing isn't something our side does as protest
This I can state into oblivion, until I needn't.
SCOTUS needed to give him king powers to escape his recent charges. Thomas sent a memo to Cannon to negate Trump's stolen documents case.
The list goes on.
He says we can’t incarcerate our way out of trumpism. (trumpism is a strawman not why they are incarcerated), so a “morally repellant” act is the solution.
If you’re not convinced you’re part of the problem - a debate fallacy called false dilemma.
"...Professor Waters is passive-aggressive and arrogant, which when paired with dry lectures makes for a very miserable class experience. I would recommend taking a different section of 456."
https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor/2257335
At such time, all the idiots who voted for the oligarchy will denounce it and join whatever left-leaning populist movement forms as an alternative.
He's in macademia.
Who fractured the nation again?
META says I can reveal that now.
...or can Trump just pardon them after commutation anyway?
The Republicans & billionaires have entered into a full assault on our Democracy. Dems better understand this
The only thing that will heal this nation is to prove that no one is above the law and that even if one is President, they aren’t a King.
We need accountability and justice. We need our DOJ to do their jobs and defend the country from fascism.
Let that stain go to its lawful(?) Owner--trump!
Who da fuck thinks like that? Seriously, who da fuck?
"The kind people have a wonderful dream..."
FAKE ‼️‼️‼️
Condoning violent acts against officers and our DEMOCRACY?!
NOPE 🤬
WILL NOT HELP ME HEAL 🤬
WON’T HELP OFFICERS HEAL 🖕
ONLY helps MAGA EXTREMISTS cheer‼️‼️‼️🖕🤬🖕🤬🖕
Take maybe 3 who pled guilty to some low level offence (not the trespass, or entering the building...), and who has shown actual remorse, and pardon them.
No one should get off for what they did that day.
Look at Rudy 🤣
Dems and the Left in America continue to play by the rules while the Right does as they please.
Snowball's chance in hell.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldU9SvyBGw0
Why not just throw out the Constitution of the United States and all laws too- kinda like what donOlds supremes did...
I’ll never forgive any Trump voter. I’ll never respect them. I will not include them in my life.
And that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
That's what the GOP & Ford told us when they freed Nixon from prosecution.
The divisions in this country continued to grow & their '73 OLC memo continued to empower Republican presidents.
Sorry. Dumb. I meant, what a dumb opinion.
w/o full admission and acceptance of responsibility, they should rot.