Logic here is that they believe that what America needs is two conservative parties - ThreadSky

edzitron.com • 14 days ago

Logic here is that they believe that what America needs is two conservative parties

Reposted from Ed Burmila

No one has tried this before, let's see how it plays out.

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ekkochambers.bsky.social•14 days ago

I mean that is what we have, it just happens to be what got us into this mess in the first place

kerouac666.bsky.social•14 days ago

Statements like this as of late have finally convinced me that democrats actually prefer being a party out of power. I think it allows them to operate as controlled opposition while pretending they’re trying but their hands are tied.

mamotreco.bsky.social•13 days ago

energetic-nova.bsky.social•14 days ago

The house was in the minority in 2023-2024 too.

mayteramarble.bsky.social•14 days ago

Democrats are the Washington Generals of the American oligarchy

kerouac666.bsky.social•14 days ago

“Calm down, everyone. Certainly the refs will tell them that brining a ladder onto the court is against the rule.”

nicetriangle.com•13 days ago

Really summarizes things well, I think

dafrgama.bsky.social•14 days ago

me watching hakeem jeffries respond to this political moment

mimi1016.bsky.social•14 days ago

Democrats have been conditioned by the right to think that they have to govern from the center. Actually, they need to govern from the left and be proud of it. Maybe then more people would be inclined to go to the polls.

kenziecoder.bsky.social•14 days ago

But what we *have* is two conservative parties...

mamotreco.bsky.social•13 days ago

Can’t stop, won’t stop sharing this.

stephanewithane.bsky.social•14 days ago

This sentence illustrates perfectly how the USA political system is a game of table tennis: one side references the other, and vice versa. The Dems should focus on defining a party line in collaboration with the people and then defend that line with policies.

secnar.bsky.social•14 days ago

We don't need more center! We need to capture the people that don't vote! There are more of them than these "middle voters" that we waste time and resources on and then they swing right anyway.

spacemufasa.bsky.social•13 days ago

After this last election, I’m fairly sure the Democrat Party is just GOP Zero. Less Common Sense, Fewer Calories.

shmick.bsky.social•13 days ago

They already have 2 conservative parties

zeroreoz.bsky.social•14 days ago

I'm turning into the joker

mpdaves.bsky.social•13 days ago

For some dems the center is technically left at this point.

jimmyjamers.bsky.social•14 days ago

hortnon.bsky.social•14 days ago

they are so completely disconnected from how the average american experiences life. just living in a different dimension entirely

badjohnbrown.bsky.social•14 days ago

Biden as President and Pelosi as House Speaker both declared we need a strong Republican Party while in the midst of repeatedly losing to the so-called weak Republican Party. They hoped it for it, they helped foster it and grow it. Biden waiting for the Republican epiphany like a goddamn fool.

dgtech1.bsky.social•14 days ago

My wild idea for politics is someone should just try working out what they sincerely believe is best for the country, then try and persuade the country they are correct.

paulatreidesnuts.bsky.social•14 days ago

Keep reaching for all zero of the those “Never Trumpers”.

xero-j.bsky.social•13 days ago

Because the first one worked out SO well

judy-inthecloud.bsky.social•13 days ago

Moderate is not conservative.

romabysen.bsky.social•14 days ago

America already has two conservative parties.

mrsplc33.bsky.social•14 days ago

Yikes no wonder we can’t win.

declassifyuap.bsky.social•14 days ago

@hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social For real?! This is the plan???

gingernorth.bsky.social•14 days ago

That’s been their strategy since the ‘90s. It’s stale.

missingfutures.bsky.social•14 days ago

I am beginning to think that this Hakeem Jeffries might be stupid.

dwightlymanmoody.bsky.social•14 days ago

hc1059.bsky.social•14 days ago

And it's true. I don't want it to be but overall, most voters prefer centrist hacks over anything else. The best bet for change is to get as many progressives as possible in safe seats but y'all need to cut Jeffries slack. He's right.

https://bsky.app/profile/lxeagle17.bsky.social/post/3lhlvzcjmpk2g

sycobuny.bsky.social•14 days ago

He's demonstrably wrong, evidence: everything happening right now which has been based on trying that playbook for years and years and only ever resulted in a systematic dismantling of the entire government as we've understood it

hc1059.bsky.social•13 days ago

Notice your evidence does not include what candidates voters vote for. The American electorate is pretty consistent in hating lefties for 250 years. Maybe it’ll change if there’s an actual affective dem leadership but for now we live in the gerrymandered states of America and I wanna win 2026.

sycobuny.bsky.social•13 days ago

That "maybe" is doing a whole hell of a lot of heavy lifting. I know who voters *didn't* vote for in 2024, despite the stakes. Perhaps because she was too busy courting those in the middle (the right) and on the right (the extreme fascist wing) who would never ever vote for her. Good luck in 2026.

avesmaria.bsky.social•14 days ago

“The best bet for change is to get as many progressives as possible in safe seats…”. Wrong, wrong-o, wrong wrong wrong wrong. Democrats have been running this exact playbook since the turn of the millennium using the exact same words and it has led to this monumental failure of a party.

avesmaria.bsky.social•14 days ago

You know how you get progressive change? You advocate for it, relentlessly, and then when you’re in position to deliver it… you deliver it! Because people tend to like progressive policy because it makes their lives better! You don’t run away and hide any time someone talks in non-R framing.

hc1059.bsky.social•14 days ago

That’s a 20 year plan not a 2026 one. We need more centrists hacks in r leaning districts who will vote Jeffries for speaker giving subpoena power and then get to work on your plan. Hopefully we can primary out some of the safe seat olds too along the way. But it starts with more Jared Goldens.

armchairsophist.bsky.social•14 days ago

Starmerism is undefeated baby

thealexholden.bsky.social•14 days ago

That these people still believe there IS a center is pathetic. Maybe another decade of losing and they’ll figure it out.

slarson.bsky.social•14 days ago

Primary every democrat

levoneleven.bsky.social•14 days ago

This is vague. The term “primary” in this context is typically meant to mean: “vote for someone else in the same party”. Primary does not mean make it impossible for someone to run. I’m a layman on the subject though. Just my basic understanding

albinodino.bsky.social•14 days ago

And that they'll betray their base to go where they think the votes are, rather than trying to win hearts and minds with good policy proposals

originalfinnster.bsky.social•13 days ago

Ireland's two conservative parties are more progressive (and smarter) than Democratic leadership at this point.

benshillito.bsky.social•14 days ago

Ed, you know perfectly well America has always had two conservative parties, one's just become a lot more extreme than the other.

pseudonymble.bsky.social•13 days ago

Great plan. California is famously centrist

bradlovett.bsky.social•14 days ago

The Democrats. Conservative but not quite as shitty as MAGA

zerocard.bsky.social•14 days ago

How democrats went from “Hope” and “Change” to “”We hope this change works!”

zerocard.bsky.social•14 days ago

levoneleven.bsky.social•14 days ago

I am too stupid to understand this. I would love some context

dangrously.bsky.social•13 days ago

i am afraid understanding this would actually make you stupider.But then again, that's the reality we live in.

deadbeatdiva.bsky.social•14 days ago

There’s no cohesion amongst Dems. It’s actually dizzying

aarontroyewhite.bsky.social•13 days ago

Does he think there’s going to be a fair election in 2028?

mamotreco.bsky.social•13 days ago

Irrelevant, even in a fair election, Democrats will do their darned best to snatch defeat from the clenched fist of victory

captainlinguini.bsky.social•13 days ago

It's the same reasoning that went into New Coke. It turned out Americans didn't want Coke that tastes like Pepsi. If they did, they'f just drink Pepsi.

pseudonymble.bsky.social•13 days ago

This time it's the choice of the old generation! In a world begging for vision, the Democrats can't see anything but the inside of their own colon.

skepticpunk.bsky.social•14 days ago

"Trump will swing harder right"

Explain to me where he has left to go.

ergospheresurfer.bsky.social•14 days ago

“We’ve had one GOP, yes. But what about second GOP?”

lildingis.bsky.social•14 days ago

Surely we haven’t ran out of Cheneys!

katiealbitz.bsky.social•14 days ago

Democrats 2026: oops all Cheneys

lildingis.bsky.social•14 days ago

To appeal to the discerning centrist we plan to merge Liz and Dick into the single, more rhetorically potent Cheney Entity

teholbeddict.bsky.social•14 days ago

Progressives need to primary every single Dem this cycle. We need our own version of the tea party to direct the party into a more effective direction than the brass are willing to go.

jeanmorrison.bsky.social•14 days ago

Example right in my PA: Fetterman moving right, very disappointingly I add, and McCormick staying put in MAGA territory.

This is NOT the way it’s done. PA gonna wind up with 2 MAGA Republican senators come 2028. 🤦‍♀️

other95.bsky.social•14 days ago

We are so doomed with these Dems.

dangrously.bsky.social•13 days ago

there were only four people in the room weren't there?

sluggishcheetah.bsky.social•14 days ago

That’s what we’ve had since the 80’s, both drifting towards the shoals of fascism.

daisywillow.bsky.social•14 days ago

When I continue to call reps next week, I’m adding that Jeffries and Schumer need to step down. They are not equipped for this moment

alejoradelo.bsky.social•14 days ago

Glad to know the dems will run on having a more inclusive and means tested Gestapo!

cardboardrevolution.com•13 days ago

America currently has a conservative party and a "kicked in the head by a horse" party

keenan313.bsky.social•14 days ago

This reminds me of the long running joke... Are you a member of an organized political party?

No, I'm a Democrat.

mir-cat.bsky.social•14 days ago

JFC. How about offering a real alternative?

ekimap.bsky.social•14 days ago

This is one of the several reasons I’m no longer a democrat after the way they handled the aftermath of the last election. Weak, soft, capitulating losers who love getting f’d. They are actually more of the reason, than MAGA itself, that we are totally done for.

mrnagrom.bsky.social•13 days ago

right? fuck, it didn’t work to keep doing the same thing.. we should do more of the same thing, it’ll work this time.

clark-why.bsky.social•13 days ago

Bird with two right wings can only fly in circles.

johns61.bsky.social•12 days ago

Bird with two right wings gets eaten by the cat.

blazeward.bsky.social•14 days ago

America HAS two conservative parties. Wall Street Clintonistas and poo-flinging lunatics.

billstewart.bsky.social•14 days ago

Yup. We used to have the Republicans, who were like the UK Tories, and the Democrats, who were also like the Tories,
but the GOP has been replaced with MAGAs and the Tories might as well be UKIP at this point, while the Dems haven't figured out that Wall Street isn't theirs any more.

energetic-nova.bsky.social•14 days ago

I dont think thats true. Cause my rep represents a mostly rural area.

skeptictank.bsky.social•14 days ago

“Yes, but what if we did MORE of what makes us lose?” -Jeffries

ryanvaughn.bsky.social•14 days ago

Are they trying to lose elections? I guess they don't understand the assignment.

trashpod.bsky.social•14 days ago

They are apparently incapable of learning, let's see how it goes.

adamvalli.bsky.social•13 days ago

By British standards, America has a Conservative Party and a Very Conservative Party.

nicetriangle.com•13 days ago

By most of the western world's standards. Parties we'd consider conservative here in the EU still tend to believe in stuff like not letting people die for lack of healthcare and that housing should be regulated so people can afford to live somewhere.

dzejes.bsky.social•13 days ago

Yeah, the latter gives you Commie sticker in Poland, so not really.

nicetriangle.com•13 days ago

Poland isn't the entirety of the EU and it still has publicly funded healthcare that would get the commie sticker in the US.

dzejes.bsky.social•13 days ago

It’s not about what we have, it’s about what dominating political forces want to implement.

And I can assure you that currently ruling party in Poland would dismantle one payer system in a heartbeat if not for the potential backlash.

US politics influences European one on a fundamental level 1/2

dzejes.bsky.social•13 days ago

We are ultimately the same system on this planet, there is no escape.

harrytuttle76.bsky.social•14 days ago

It’s what their donors want

megalithic-xyster.bsky.social•14 days ago

God dammit, they’re doing that thing again where they try to target centrist/weak R voters because they think the lefties are unreliable (+ scary to corporate donors), which doesn’t actually attract weak Rs and puts off the lefties in a gobsmacking self fulfilling prophecy.

AGAIN

mamotreco.bsky.social•13 days ago

motoran.bsky.social•14 days ago

Jeffries is one of the dumbest people around.

just-slothlike.bsky.social•14 days ago

they're gone run a kamala/cheney ticket

levoneleven.bsky.social•14 days ago

My personal take is that a whole shitload of Americans need to start campaigning to get their local republican congress person voted out in 2026. I do plan to call mine and tell him as much

levoneleven.bsky.social•14 days ago

How about we do project 2026? A year seems like ages right now, but Americans have suffered worse and we can survive and beat down the enemy. Seems like a French Revolution at the moment. Off with their heads

levoneleven.bsky.social•14 days ago

Don’t kill anyone obviously, hurt them in the wallet, divest in their stocks and don’t buy their products

solongmusk.bsky.social•14 days ago

To say you already have 2 conservative parties doesn’t do it justice. We have that in the UK & you’re to the right of us (you go so far into “blue” that you loop back to “red”). It’s basically:

🟥 Labour: Centre-Right
🟦 Tories: “Moderate” Right
🟦 Democrats: Right
🟥 Republicans: Far-Right

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