I understand why the left was absent from this pronatalism conference, even if Liz Bruenig doesn't. - ThreadSky

moiradonegan.bsky.social • 12 hours ago

I understand why the left was absent from this pronatalism conference, even if Liz Bruenig doesn't.

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riddle4aly.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Pronatalists talk about birth rates without dehumanizing women: challenge impossible

mrtoads.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Yeah, and why did the Communists keep boycotting the Nazi rallies? Guess they weren’t very Bipartisan! (I am very intelligent!)

cardellaj.bsky.social•12 hours ago

“Perpetuating humanity” is such a weird framing, as if the risk to humanity is too few new children, and not planet destroying environmental policies, and decimation of the social safety net—both of which the right wing crowd want to accelerate.

cardellaj.bsky.social•12 hours ago

And I resent having to prioritize hypothetical people not yet brought into existence over real people who exist right now and deserve a habitable planet and the freedom to determine how to live their own lives.

nif-again.bsky.social•7 hours ago

not to mention that the "pro-natalists" are largely against policies that actually make it easier for people to have children.

solidarity5ever.bsky.social•6 hours ago

They're opposed to poor people having that many kids. They want poor people to have enough kids to replace the laborers. But they think Idiocracy is a real thing that could happen.

avioletriot.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Or keep those children alive.

margeaux.bsky.social•11 hours ago

this is the correct take

solidarity5ever.bsky.social•6 hours ago

That's exactly why the left isn't there. There's absolutely no need to worry about the human population, so they have to have another goal in mind. And they do.

sockpuppetpundit.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Universal healthcare would perpetuate humanity.

stackman.bsky.social•10 hours ago

It makes sense considering their definitions of "humanity" and "perpetuating." Extreme tribalism and religiosity load those terms more than cheaters' dice.

cobieef.bsky.social•10 hours ago

We need less people. Not more.

antiquethought.bsky.social•11 hours ago

She even notes it in like her second paragraph.

hobogue.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Old poison, new bottle.

differentsmoke.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Damn. Disappointing to read a "why was the left absent from the pro-freedom anti-globalist summit?" Line from her.

nopassaran.bsky.social•12 hours ago

It's starching credulity to think Liz doesn't understand who she's sharing the same space with

mateosfo.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Bruenig is a tradwife Christian fascist, she understands perfectly well what she's doing.

policyg.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Oh, she knows.

nopassaran.bsky.social•10 hours ago

One of these days i will post with proper spelling and decent grammar

starching? jfc

lisajdubreuil.bsky.social•8 hours ago

“starching credulity” sounds kind of cool though! 😂

ebharrington.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Your credulity is all crisp and shipshape!

coolnameliz.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Interesting, because back in the day when this came out, she touted it. It does focus on families, but is about how social dem government policies could support children and level the playing field to make sure that each child has a good start in life. https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/project/the-family-fun-pack-makes-parenting-easy-for-everyone/

dprdonuts.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Only if you assume she's got a solid grasp of reality past the end of the own nose. Most people don't.

docstock.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Yeah, she knows exactly what this shit is about.

rf414.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Bottom line it’s about controlling and using women.

thankfulthinker.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Right. That makes sense.

mike.doughney.net•12 hours ago

Another turd out of The Atlantic. Almost didn't even need to look to confirm.

hobogue.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Don't you hate it when the dumb bastards resurrecting Hitlers turds get exposed!

room215.bsky.social•11 hours ago

I cannot believe she is back and also pulling this bullshit

oliviacampbell.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Gross.

whiskeyflip.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Also, perpetuating humanity? Are these scumbags aware there are literally more humans than ever? How would anyone not know it was about “white babies” without any other single detail?

shepherdaaron.bsky.social•9 hours ago

ppl on the left aren’t “pronatalist” bc that’s a reactionary term

ppl on the left call themslvs “feminists” or “liberals” or “socialists” or some variation of these things and advocate for women and children as people, not as future pawns for reactionary politics why would the left be at this event

shepherdaaron.bsky.social•9 hours ago

idk but every single serious problem I’ve ever seen a “pronatalist” complain about is something the left also worries about and usually has multiple possible solutions for, sorry to Breuing that they aren’t using Reddit language to talk about them

dprdonuts.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Because "you should breed more, even if your kids lives are going to objectively suck because people refuse to fix even the simplest problems In any substantive way" is antithetical to most leftist values, and also a generally fucking stupid ideology?

cbourne.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Yeah, we were at work.

thankfulthinker.bsky.social•12 hours ago

This BS about promoting having babies is so fucking annoying. I know I shouldn't swear on here, but seriously, there are 8.2 billion people on the planet & our population is still growing!

Why are these people so horrible?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/population-decline-will-change-the-world-for-the-better/

alexqgb.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Those are the wrong people, which really doesn’t square with the bit about preserving humanity in general.

soccerlawyer.bsky.social•12 hours ago

You can swear on here, it’s fine.

thankfulthinker.bsky.social•12 hours ago

I swear a lot, but I refrain on social media because it offends some people.

My mom swore like a sailor, too. Born in 1929, she'd been brought up Catholic in a time when there were strict censors on swearing, especially for women. As she put it, her mom wouldn't say shit if she had a mouthful.

darwinwoodka.bsky.social•12 hours ago

they're racist shits

thenoteheleft.bsky.social•11 hours ago

She claims to be left, but everything she writes could have come out of the dumbest wingnut chop shops.

alexqgb.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Her leftism is a bit if you’re being polite, a grift if you’re being accurate

darwinwoodka.bsky.social•12 hours ago

She doesn't get that they're simply white supremacists huh

judith-ip.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Oh she does

ejpettinger.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Typical bruenig troll shit

doktorhulk.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Planet is too populated anyway. Especially by idiots. We have to shrink significantly if we want to survive as a species. More sex, less kids. Good for everyone.