As much as I wish that would work
A. We’re already doing that
B. Billionaires have so much more defense against ever having to directly deal with that hate than trans people do.
Americans feel a huge lack of control over their lives. Some want somebody to blame and punch down on because it’s easier than repairing the system. This blame game won’t end until we stop looking for easy solutions.
Billionaires are part of the problem, but not the root of it. We are a country of people who want to be like the billionaires and do whatever they want. We can’t, so we find someone socioeconomically weaker than us to blame and bully. Toxic, fragile machismo.
They're powersick, and their minds have been warped by the authority they wield.
They do the dehumanizing to themselves. Giving us the easiest job of just noticing that
I'm game but I think the core issue is that media has been humanizing billionaires since the 80s. Sure they're villains often but they're also portrayed as put upon geniuses who want to help but are held back by regulation etc (especially in genre fiction).
In most popular media there are rarely trans characters and then they're usually a joke or a serial killer.
Or there's a blatantly trans narrative like I Saw the TV Glow and it is willfully misconstrued because the audience wants it to be about them and their nostalgia and how they're sad.
Been doing it for years. Any one with that amount of wealth that can look at the state of the world and think “should I use my good luck to make things actually better? Pssh. Nah… ima keep it, in fact need more actually” is a demon imo
That will come sooner than you think , there are trans people that helped build this country and we are pissed. And right now there are more intellectuals in our communities than in all of Trump’s cabinet picks.
WE need to slay the dragons. It's what the dragon lore is all about. No heroes. Just people tired of getting burned, who decide they've had enough, turn around, and start attacking. Not for their gold, but for the ability to be in charge of our lives.
Think I need to design a t-shirt
If you use certain academic definitions sure. If you're looking at how the word is applied to modern US politics, "liberal" is used to define anything that's not a MAGA Republican these days.
I know, because Americans have been pushed into believing that Liberal=Left (Whereas, in reality, your Democrats are Centre-Right, at best).
It has a specific meaning, using it for anything that's just anti-MAGA dilutes and muddies that. Being anti-MAGA is being anti-fascist :)
I reject this reading purely on the grounds that you are ceding ground to the MAGA people. Don't centralize them and orient everyone else around them. That is a big part of how Harris lost. They are still a cult of psychos- and a minority.
If someone recognizes capitalism itself is bad, and is the problem, then they've moved to the left of the liberal position. Defending capitalism and the status quo, and siding with fascists over leftists are distinctly liberal positions.
Just read about what happens historically when fascists take power. Like in the Enabling Act of 1933 when the liberals sided with the nazis to give Hitler full dictatorial power of Germany cause he promised to be the "law and order" president who would restore peace and stop leftist protests.
Yes!! Rise against the predatory class! Hold the mirror up to their idiocy and self-idolatry as they skim the cream from society and tell us all to churn harder so we, too, can have a teensy bit o butter…
It’s a sad commentary, but it’s very apparent our government is controlled by the financially elite. Trumps key proposed appointments leave no doubt about that.
Billionaires shouldn't exist, they are a plague on our planet. They are disgusting parasites who play god without permission while wrecking the planet and making it unlivable for everyone else.
They fly their planes and ride their yatchs to islands they've bought... and do unspeakable things to people on their way, all while flouting their wealth. Tax the rich!
Does it still count as propaganda if it's a completely accurate factual statement? I mean, I know it does by the dictionary definition but like, vibes-wise
Sadly, many people now look up to "Dragon's hoarding wealth" as something to aspire to, not something that needs to be killed for the good of the village
I'm with you. Wealth from exploitation is bad. A question I struggle with is, what happens when a beneficial idea gets big? AFAIK, billionaires are rich because they own a lot of a big company they started. They can't sell it, lest lose controlling interest. Is this just an outcome under capitalism?
How many of these companies get this big through ethical action/lack of exploitation. Without exploitation or predatory business practices, most of the largest companies wouldn't be anywhere near as large as they are.
Also, several of the world's richest didn't start their most successful (cont)
companies. For example, Elon didn't found Tesla. Many of the oligarchs create their wealth by already having wealth and then buying out promising companies/competition. Microsoft and Amazon are great examples of these things.
If we had real policies that constrained anti-competitive behavior...
our form of capitalism wouldn't be as destructive as it is today. However, with the regulatory and legislative capture they have achieved they outright make a "free market" impossible.
Fair points. I guess, being in climatech myself, I had hope that organizations could grow to match the scale of the climate problem without causing problems themselves. Seems it really does require a whole new system.
Dead right now, there's a billionaire running America with plans to rape the earth of precious metals minerals, then he'll head for space and do the same thing. He's already damaged the ozone layer with the satellites he's placed in space,incl those inside our atmosphere, so he can spy on every 1
It’s so unethical to be a billionaire. You could never spend that much money in your entire life. People are homeless, can’t afford food, losing their homes, etc- and fucking billionaires are just hoarding tons and tons of money, taking it out of the circulation for the economy. It’s disgusting.
Parasites is absolutely correct. They have no capacity to recognize their effect on the world and make different choices so as not to throw off the balance of the world. Just like a parasite in a body will continue to feed until the host organism dies, billionaires will keep accumulating money...
Billionaires just shouldn't exist. The excuses I have heard for it are not enough. They squeeze our produce from us and use their power to squeeze ever more. It is harmful to society to have them. If they really cared for the good of humanity then they would allow themselves to be taxed!
While they separate themselves from public life already, they should be eradicated the world over. Smoked out of their gilded lairs and smote. It will be bloodless, if the leaches allow it to be.
Btw, I think we need to call out fascism and it's varying degrees. Some say fascism is in all of humanity hence the belief that big game hunters have the right to kill. Not all fascists are Hitler-esque. But if we don't recognize them, we are destined to be ruled by one.
Dem's would have done much better this election if they are willing to actually criticize the billionaires and wealthy and propose policies which focused on wealth redistribution, but they would never due that due to the lobby's run by the wealthy which fund them
Eh. Kamala Harris ran on a platform of home buyer credits and price gouging controls, and people voted for the billionaire racist instead. You say "wealth redistribution" and half the country hears "Soviet communism."
Exactly. People forget that the wealthy control the narrative. Thats why so many people think taxing the rich is "Marxism." Because Elon says it is lol
Just like they've spent decades trying to dismantle unions and turn people against them. Sure, unions aren't perfect and corruption happens. But the majority of worker's rights in the US were won by organized strikes. Rich people hate that.
while the right has mastered cruelty, goes well with their hatred vibes; the left can use humor and wit to achieve similar goals. the unity nonsense doesn't work. humans have deep embedded us/them mindset. not playing to it is foolish and defeating. ✊✌️🤲
Everyone I personally know does this already. But without money there’s no power so we can’t get any traction. No one cares what disabled people in poverty think
The bible says way more about the evils of hoarding wealth than it does about trans people (nothing) but its not like those ppl actually read that book
Unfortunately this doesn't work. I would think multiple SAs, felons, drug use on camera, obvious con jobs and being called out on it by the left would work to demonize them. Apparently pointing out the truth of who is running the right, is "fake news. "
Billionaires shouldn’t exist. What is the actual utility for society for them to exist? The French were definitely right about how to deal with the problem.
It never ceases to amaze me how close to "getting it" conservatives actually are;
International cabal of ne'er-do-wells
High prevalence of diddlers and degenerates
Controls the media
The enemy of the people
All their propaganda about us fits the billionaires PERFECTLY.
More like, we need to start dehumanizing and demonizing Christians, Christian Fundamentalism, and all that even remotely support a sick and unconstitutional religion that hates. They oppressed Vikings, Blacks, Mayans, Native Americans, and now want to remove LGBT people. Just look at history.
No one needs a billion dollars to survive or even thrive in this world. Billionaires who don’t dedicate most of their time and efforts to helping humanity are selfish, disgusting assholes. Spoiler alert: most billionaires don’t spend their time and efforts helping humanity.
That's not even a question, really. They're so far removed from the rest of us and life as the majority of us know it that they don't have the same human experience as us. That's...inhuman lol
Depends on what you mean by dehumanize, sunshine. Should we send them r*** threats, like the right does with trans & allies? No. Should we criticize them endlessly for their greed & wastefullness & not paying their fair share? Yes. Even if its your fav singer .
Make fun of billionaires for not paying taxes. Call them Scrooge McDuck. Start a campaign where people are rewarded and made celebrities bk they pay taxes freely
“You’ve got these freaks taking money from your CHILDRENS schools! They want to use that money to brainwash your children to fall for their agenda, and the whole world is going along with it! Who’s gonna stand up against this mind virus?”
as far as i’ve gathered, billionaires have done more damage to this planet in one year than all trans people combined in all of history. it’s very clear who the threat to humanity is.
I mean the few left voices try, but the democrats throw people like mark cuban on pokimanes stream and they were both like “i love this 50k to small business idea” so its not like the majority is gonna do anything. The average American drools over the thought of being a rich multi-millionaire 🫠
Nah, I don't think we should dehumanize or demonize anyone. We can demonize choices people make, certainly, and hold said people accountable for their choices, but we need to be able to separate people from their actions on a certain level, so they will have room change.
It should be, but so many people refuse to admit that there is no ethical way to accumulate $1b, and that that level of wealth is corrupting and corrosive and makes you a worse person
It's about time people stopped being afraid of class warfare and recognized that we have been engaged in a full on class war since the 80s and Reaganism. The rich have been kicking our asses for over 40 years because we're afraid to fight back.
You just can't keep all of your soul with that much money. Mark Cuban is the closest I've encountered and oh my God shut up dude, but thanks for the cheap insulin (really).
They've already dehumanized themselves. I want to REhumanize them by taking away their power and kicking out their pedestals through correct rational tax policy.
Idea: Y’know how the NRA gives people grades on how much they are gun-friendly? What if we had a system to rate the wealthy on how much they actually benefit the world? Like MacKenzie Scott would get a MUCH higher grade than ol’ Elon… but we could make a rubric based on net worth & donations, etc?
Only thing is, bullying them out of public spaces won’t work cuz they don’t use them. It’s actually easier for them to never interact with regular people. Theyd have to go out of their way to be confronted with anything uncomfortable.
Sure why not. I mean we’ve tried taking a Christmas Carole approach for years … using facts and stories of the past, present, and future to try and convince capitalist Scrooges to stop exploiting the poor and middle classes.
Maybe it’s time to start publicly shaming and belittling them.
The is what I try to do, because it is true, billionaires are the problem.
What I run into is establishment Democrats, and the donor world that surrounds them and also funds much of the outside infrastructure, put a kibosh on it because they are billionaires or want to be.
If you want to see this happen in real time, fast forward to 45m or a little before if you want to see me say the problem is billionaires. And then listen to the response from an establishment pollster. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15fvQGMwX3/?mibextid=KsPBc6
Sadly, for the last 40+ yrs or so, the "MSM"/Legacy media was bought up (95%) by corporations/millionaires, was enabled to consolidate by effing Reagan and the cabal of libertarian deregulators, who stopped enforcing anti-trust act. They swallowed local radio, local newspapers and killed them
and replaced them with either canned music or conservative "TALK". Rush Limbaugh was given FREELY to local (money strapped) stations. Murdoch got a rush job on "citizenship" from Reagan so he could create FOX propaganda. BTT the 90s rolled around LEGACY MEDIA from print to television pushed
GREED IS GOOD. While the mega millionaire and corporate owners were killing unions, stripping tv writers/actors of the power of unions via "reality" television, the LEGACY media was turning 'Wealth Hoarding" corrupt bullies into COVER HEROES for their magazine. At the same time, LEGACY media
empowered RICH trust fund PEOPLE to tell you HOW PUBLIC ED was awful (these were people who never attended public schools nor were their children attending). But many of them saw $$$ signs on the heads of poor children where they could swoop in to the UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS (thanks to the GOP and the
neoliberals who went along with them) turn them in to "charters, for profit, shareholder" corporate schools; kill the teacher unions and make money. Did it make urban or rural schools better? H*LL NO. More than ever we have "high achieving by zip code" schools. For the better part of
the 5 decades, ANY TIME "we, the people" got programs passes to help "we, the people", THE RICH, POWERFUL GOP entities scream "SOCIALISM" and demonize them. The GOP has been demonizing Social Security since the 1930s; Medicare and Medicaid since the 1960s. WEALTH HOARDERS WHO OWN THE GOP have
Personally, I'm for Make Cats Fat Again. We need to bring back the pejoratives for the billionaire class. I think anybody over say $100 million should be totally up for grabs.
i mean, genuinely convinced there is something inhuman about billionaires... how anyone with a shred of humanity can look around and see so many people in poverty and still decide to hoard more wealth and resources than anyone could ever use in multiple lifetimes completely escapes me
We've known that ever since Bernie resonated with people in 2016. The Dem establishment knows billionaires are evil; they know that economic populism will get through to voters.
It is criminal that they chose to suppress that message, even when faced with fascism!
It won't be difficult. We can really hammer all of the ways they work to manipulate emotions to puppet Americans. We can just tell the truth and it will accomplish the same thing.
I was about to point out that this wouldn't work because they aren't born that way, but then I remembered that almost all of them actually are born that way.
Doesn’t work. Poor and stupid people idolize billionaires. They believe the meritocracy lie and think the only reason they themselves aren’t billionaires is because the government is holding them back. Their definition of success is wealth accumulation.
Until you dispel the notion that wealth accumulation is the chief measure of success in life, you will never be able to tear down billionaires successfully.
Billionaires are the group who own less than Trillionaire
People own companies.
Whom are those who are billionaires?
Transparency is key.
Most do not want to be known.
Banks decide who gets inheritance — Bank Secrecy Act
Most never pay taxes.
Expose owners.
Exposure is a good thing….
The problem is you can dehumanise billionaires and we do... but... they're billionaires so they don't give a toss and none of it effects them. It's another reason why there simply shouldn't be billionaires.
I think the first wall we could breach on this is private equity.
The less known shadow billionaires who are slowly buying up single family homes, food businesses, healthcare companies, etc. Pure value extraction at the expense of the consumer.
Some years back a member of the Johnsson and Johnsson family made a documentary called The 1 Percent. He interviewed his family friends (billionaires) and demonstrated very clearly that accumulation of great wealth is a symptom of severe and dangerous mental illness.
There few ways to accumulate significant wealth without exploiting others: being a world class athlete, best selling author, or a popular artist. Just about every other path to $$ involves fucking people over.
Billionaires are ALWAYS evil and they ALWAYS gain their $ from evil or inherit from evil.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2EKTCngiM
A. We’re already doing that
B. Billionaires have so much more defense against ever having to directly deal with that hate than trans people do.
Americans feel a huge lack of control over their lives. Some want somebody to blame and punch down on because it’s easier than repairing the system. This blame game won’t end until we stop looking for easy solutions.
They do the dehumanizing to themselves. Giving us the easiest job of just noticing that
Don't forget to block & report the smiling asshole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFqjoCbZ4ik
GyneLink or something
Or there's a blatantly trans narrative like I Saw the TV Glow and it is willfully misconstrued because the audience wants it to be about them and their nostalgia and how they're sad.
Billionaires are dragons.
Think I need to design a t-shirt
Perhaps unsurprisingly, liberals seem to take much greater pains to defend billionaires than they do to defend trans people.
It has a specific meaning, using it for anything that's just anti-MAGA dilutes and muddies that. Being anti-MAGA is being anti-fascist :)
I don't always like that, but that's the way the world works.
But you think academic debates about modern liberalism are going to connect with voters?
And I'm pretty sure "siding with fascists" isn't part of the definition.
Ignoring the fact that political landscapes and terms have changed since 1933, claiming Hitler allied with "liberals" is questionable at best.
Also, several of the world's richest didn't start their most successful (cont)
If we had real policies that constrained anti-competitive behavior...
Idiots are well known to worship at the feet of wealth
They should be charged and tried accordingly
They collect vast amounts of wealth solely for the purpose of sitting on it.
They produce nothing of value, and actively prevent people from accessing resources that could be put to good use.
And that doesn't even get into political influence.
fuck him and his fake "good guy" act
International cabal of ne'er-do-wells
High prevalence of diddlers and degenerates
Controls the media
The enemy of the people
All their propaganda about us fits the billionaires PERFECTLY.
At least in german.
It's ok to hate them, and call for them to be stripped of their rights.
Because they aren't Human Beings.
They aren't even alive.
How are they 'persons' with rights, again?
I also wonder whether belittling their (and politicians') ability to actually do ~actual good~ things would be effective messaging.
Like, "Bezos is too weak to even get universal healthcare on the table." I dunno 🤷♂️
Take all of their money. Use it. Literally write people checks and send it to them.
And then make it about “billionaires took your healthcare, social security, and job.” All true. But policy can fix it.
They're convincing kids to choose their career in worthless jobs before their brains have fully developed!
No biological billionaires in worker's spaces!
Maybe it’s time to start publicly shaming and belittling them.
What I run into is establishment Democrats, and the donor world that surrounds them and also funds much of the outside infrastructure, put a kibosh on it because they are billionaires or want to be.
I’m in.
We've known that ever since Bernie resonated with people in 2016. The Dem establishment knows billionaires are evil; they know that economic populism will get through to voters.
It is criminal that they chose to suppress that message, even when faced with fascism!
Citizens United has successfully killed both political parties in the US, including a so-called "Democratic" party.
Citizens United has killed democracy itself.
People own companies.
Whom are those who are billionaires?
Transparency is key.
Most do not want to be known.
Banks decide who gets inheritance — Bank Secrecy Act
Most never pay taxes.
Expose owners.
Exposure is a good thing….
Rejecting lust for wealth and power is the only way to fight against this and that's going to be a difficult battle.
Anyone with a Nike collection, for example, is just as much part of the problem.
#VoteWithYourWallet
#EatTheRich
Racists and bigots are proud of the fact that they are not the minority they demonize.
The less known shadow billionaires who are slowly buying up single family homes, food businesses, healthcare companies, etc. Pure value extraction at the expense of the consumer.
Billionaires are ALWAYS evil and they ALWAYS gain their $ from evil or inherit from evil.