Let's repeat it for folks in the back.
When Bill Clinton cut 300,000 + jobs from the federal workforce, he did it with the APPROVAL of Congress after review and a VOTE!
He did NOT illegally take it upon himself to drastically slash entire agencies and programs - with NO plan for continued service.
When Bill Clinton cut 300,000 + jobs from the federal workforce, he did it with the APPROVAL of Congress after review and a VOTE!
He did NOT illegally take it upon himself to drastically slash entire agencies and programs - with NO plan for continued service.
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They implemented it in phases to ensure that there would not be tremendous disruption to the lives of those being let go, or to the public.
How much will it cost for the medical care many Federal employees will need to treat the trauma inflicted on them.
Civilians will be affected also.
That's just one example.
Like you say, it will be staggering.
He grew up in DC.
He let the folks in Tennessee feel like he forgot where he came from. If he had carried Tennessee he would have won the election against Bush.
It was perception not reality. He's about as down to earth as a person with his intellect and background can be.
Removed old legislation, balanced the budget, and built relations with Russia at a pivotal point in their history.
Best blow job this country ever got.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-bill-clinton-shrunk-federal-government-30-years-before-doge-2032893
In my organization they assessed the agency’s efforts & identified exactly what positions & how many were to be eliminated. If enough people within those positions (chemist, etc) retired or left voluntarily, no one was laid off
The contrast of how things have been done previously with how they are occurring now is astonishing. I don't understand how anyone thinks this is being done with efficiency or care.
My reps are Dunn and Senators Moody and Scott, they mostly completely suck. I have to say though that I have been impressed by Senator Moody's defense of the Judiciary in the recent hearings.
And how long before they were replaced with something that cost us even MORE?
I think that there also needs to be a distinction made between how these reductions happened previously vs the one that's occurring now.
They try to make it out like it's all the same.
Bureau of Indian Affairs has been cut by DOGE.
Osage Nation has begun a war dance against DOGE.
Social media sites are trying to suppress information about our indigenous peoples.
Please assist with their voices.
One consistent problem with most MAGA seems to be they don't actually DO research, they don't want nuanced understanding, only theoverview.
it leaves them.....lacking.
Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel are definitely pulling lots of strings right now.
I think right now there are multiple factions with differing goals that currently overlap. Once they no longer do, we're going to see a battle for the real power. I think Trump will be removed then too.
the real players who want to throttle is further. Musk ‘s days as a front man may also be numbered.
From what I understand, ketamine usage can spiral pretty quickly and definitely has serious effects on mental status.
I could also likely see another one of the tech Bros stepping right up in his space.
They all bought Trump. Trump is just a useful vessel. I think tech bros win in the end though
Such a shame.
He’s a lying sack of shit as are all of his supporters and spineless cowards in congress!!!
These evil bastards must be halted immediately!!!
I hope it comes in handy if some MAGA dipstck tries to come at you with this BS.
….instead a bunch of hackers who don’t even know how a business works came in and slashed stuff for no reason. Not. Okay.
There is no way on this planet that he would ever accept us setting aside our European allies in order to cleave to Russia.
Services provided to our citizens should come at the least possible cost, but with an understanding that sometimes those agencies WILL be at a deficit. That does not mean they are failing.
A good business person would never cut anything without understanding all the impacts. I give up with them. 🤷🏻♀️😂😱
It’s like curiosity to learn new things and keep growing is gone.
How much real business experience di you think one would get under his tutelage?
We have 3 co-equal branches of government with clearly delineated responsibilities for actions of governance within those branches.
There is a reason why all of these judges are reacting with injunctions and restraining orders, he is acting unconstitutionally.
Also too, Newt and Rush would never allow him to be a dictator! Bill married the wrong woman!
Those days are so long ago now. I'm definitely due a sit down to do some refresher reading.
They don't care about the examples that they are setting, or legality of actions-because they don't intend to leave.
They are still being a bit coy about it, but the gloves will come off eventually
I hope something happens to intervene and remove them from power. I desperately hope our checks and balances will manage to defend us.
I'm very uneasily awaiting the reports to 47 due by April 20 in reference to the insurrection act.
I have a bad feeling they have a plan.
They may be faint hopes, but they're still live and kicking.
I'll keep showing up and fighting back.
We still have a very long way to go before we're anywhere near the end of the line.
Mostly cuz they like to give big tax breaks to rich guys, and that's not so wonderful for the governmental bottom line.
I have never understood why he made such deep cuts to welfare, which HURT AK + was a pittance in the balancing the budget so maybe a bit of his own revenge there.
I haven't been a huge fan of MOST of our presidents in my adult lifetime, but when you are getting down to the nitty gritty of it, the republican odefinitely didn't tend to do much for the general population overall.
I think that all of the members of The Heritage Foundation, Peter Thiel ,Curtis Yarvin, Musk and quite a few others along with every MAGA politician should be tried for treason and sedition.
Imagine that they actually went into their jobs and conceived of ways to improve the lives of American citizens rather than simply obstructing the opposite party.
Using the DOGE chainsaw method still raises the debt ceiling by trillions.
Such a stark difference between the lack of care and regard which is occurring during this destruction of our government and its agencies. They don't care about the general American public or civil servants.
None of our class matter.
It's truly heartbreaking to think of the research which is gone and the lives which have been affected by these losses.
Such a tremendous loss of time and money, needlessly.
We may not have agreed, but we would have respected the decision.
Make the private jet set pay!
This is a long-range plan which has been quietly enacted behind the scenes for decades. I think the modern Republican party has mainly become a cover for christofascists. I won't say all, cause I can't swear to that , but certainly most of them.
The American people deserved better.
I don't know how ANYONE can bear to sit there and listen to the hateful nonsense that spews out of Fox for hours on end.
I can barely stomach a few minutes of it just to stay minimally informed on what the talking heads are saying.
shit it’s brain freeze
Not some UNELECTED stooge / prop / billionaire with conflicts of interest doing all the dirty work
My hell, WITAF are we doing????
No disruptions in services, no random firings.
It was done with care and consideration of our civil service members, and an eye on not causing huge disruption to public services.
I don't understand why it didn't stop right there. An adviser to the president, that's one thing, but an entire team of unvetted lackeys marauding through our entire governmental structure?
That's another thing ENTIRELY.
They're so busy trying to "own the libs" that they don't even see the destruction which is occurring in their own backyard.
Some eyes have opened recently, I have a feeling that trend is going to continue.
The government was solvent!!
This regime doesn't care what destruction they leave in their wake.
I wish more people realized how utterly divergent this is from normal politics.
It's usually a case of both choices somewhat suck, but this man is truly wicked to his core. He is malice incarnate.
I was born in 76 and don't remember any of Carter's presidency. Reagan is the first one that I clearly recall.
I know he came into office with a Manifesto from the evangelicals, maybe that's where it started.
It so sad to me that these VITAL services and the people who provide them to us have been painted in such a dark way, and that so many people have fallen for the manipulation.
I don't think billionaires and trillionaires should exist.
No one should be able to hoard wealth and accumulate more than the GDP of large nations.
The ultra rich should be taxed heavily.
I want functional socialism, true social equality. I don't believe billionaires should EXIST but if they do, they should be HEAVILY taxed.
When done through proper channels, legally, we can disagree with actions of our leaders but still have faith in the process which allowed them- because they'd be constrained by the other branches.
Can you imagine him attempting to pass the bar exam?
"No student has ever been treated so poorly as I have. There was a conspiracy to force me to fail the exam by not allowing me to bring my notes in with me."
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Its core purpose is to guide federal agencies in deciding whether certain activities should be performed by government employees or outsourced.
It was part of a larger trend in the '90s of applying business-like practices to government operations.
Those two goals will often conflict.
But OMB Circular A-76 provides a structured, lawful framework for reviewing government agencies - unlike Musk’s more aggressive “chainsaw” style.
It includes checks, balances, and worker protections, making it a more balanced, disciplined approach.
That definitely sounds like it would have been a far more fair and truly efficient process
I will freely admit to playing catch up on quite a bit of this.
I was not this highly interested in the functional details of governmental agencies before 47 and Musk started dismantling them.
We assessed the "As Is" state, regarding People, Processes, and Technology ...then designed and implemented the optimized "To Be" model.
I'm not sure of the DOGE process! 😎
& performing efficiency studies.
These studies were performed using the OMB A-76 Circular guidelines during the Clinton Admin.
The absolute lack of insight that is necessary to behave like that and then go on television crying, wondering why people are so upset with him? That was insanely funny to me!
It’s why we are here and I’ll hear nothing else about it.
My point here is not at all about whether that was a great plan, just that it was a plan which was done through our legal governmental processes.
It was not done illegally and outside of normal process.
Obama came into office with a supermajority, he could have passed 100% single payer healthcare, but because the west wing libs got to him, we are here.
Once we get rid of this current pack of republicans, maybe we will find some with hearts.
Considering we were left with Citizen's United...maybe they were successful.
He had an actual mandate and could have browbeat the naysayers in his own party until they voted on what he wanted.
Instead he chose to work with the party that was openly trying to destroy his power.
Don’t believe me? Go check out what FDR did after he was elected
Because they approached things methodically and made an actual plan to save govt funds.
Our checks and balances are not very sturdy right now.
I don't think they ever envisioned the cowardice which would be displayed by our representatives when faced by such a man.
Those folk were used.
If nothing else tells you what deep trouble we're in, that will.
I won't, but the instinct is strong.
carter was the only reasonably good president. the rest were shit wrapped in a turd.
10 TRILLION LOST AND COUNTING!
HE CAN STOP IT TODAY!
Wow.
Trapped w/in the behavior patterns of their disorder, WORLD DOMINATION/ENSLAVEMENT is the agenda as *RUSSIA’S Republicans*—also cultivated over decades—destroy America/Americans to pave the way.
Putin's puppet and a perfect face for the equally longterm plans of the American cristofascist movement.
Then there's Musk and rest of the tech bros lurking in the wings, jostling for whatever power they can seize.
Yet still somehow, the MelonMoron thinks he's in charge!
I am simply pointing out some details that they're leaving out of the argument around it.
I absolutely think this has all been done intentionally, to crash our economy and illegally consolidate power to the executive branch.
He didn’t just chop them, lie about their performance metrics to make it seem like they “deserved” it, and leave them hanging.
All of this might have been sold as finding waste fraud and abuse, but it's clear that wasn't the intention.
So needless and stupid.
Not every generation gets to overthrow tyranny and traitors.
We just happen to be the lucky ones. Call up the militias.
Revolution is the solution.