This seems very unproductive when we are facing an authoritative regime in the hands of 2 unhinged creatures & a nasty attack dog holding the strings. Agree with him on something or dont.
The identification of these countries as authoritarian nightmares wasn't the problem but the invasion. He has acknowledged his mistake in supporting it. I never supported it but read his articles regularly because they have something to add.
He hasn't been proven right or wrong on the graves he was referring to. And he certainly didn't dismiss the horrors of this program, particularly in US. Again, I am not looking for an echo chamber.
And you all can hate me but I’m in the fight for DEMOCRACY right now so get off your soap boxes and gather the troops because this shit is dead ass serious w this regime . Go play in a corner w all the “ friends” who meet your standards . I don’t get it but I’m in a war not a fight over the past.
omg youre talking about David Frum. Over 20 years later, women in Fallujah are still having horrific miscarriages and there are tragic infant deaths due to birth defects because of what the U.S. did in Fallujah, which Frum architected. Inhuman.
It's always something about how anarchists are MEAN and WOKE to you, while under the same breath licking a MAGAt's foot with no question, doubt nor remorsement.
Lol do you not understand that you're either trying to befriend people you're also claiming to be in a "war" with who absolutely helped get us to the present moment, or you're fighting a completely different war from the one most of the people in this thread are fighting?
What on earth are you talking about ? Have you ever built a true coalition or do you sit around w your dumb fuck liberal friends circle jerking in your tears?
Like I'm sorry but do you just not think there should be such a thing as any standards at all?? Like what is your argument here? Actual genocide deniers and pnac neocons are fine because they don't like Trump? What?
Have you read any of his work in the past few years or are you still stuck in the past ? And just because we allow people who aren’t perfect doesn’t mean we let them define our North Star. You track?
Like Jesus Christ. Liberals are insufferable. You can't find a single reason to support any left wingers because they remind you of your abusive dad, but you cannot fucking wait to redeem these Kissingerian monsters.
Ok so I knew a lot of you would meet me w these sorts of comments. Yes I was too around for Bush. BUT you have to agree now is not the time to make enemies w those that want to turn this ship around. We can get back to old school politics after we get through this current coup.
what part of throwing minorities under the bus in the hopes of appealing to moderate republicans was so successful in November you feel the need to give it a repeat, friend
Most people have adequately summed up Frum but The Atlantic is pretty vile with classism, imperialism, and transphobia, so maybe cancel that subscription as a whole
Idk why people in the dem party require everyone to be perfect . It’s doesn’t mean they guy gets to decide our platform but for gods sake we can’t afford to keep pushing people out. this is way bigger than his one world view we need everyone on board
Tell me what he’s written lately that you hate
The Dem party loves their conservatives, who do in fact share a big chunk of their platform, and it's fine to push Frum out of anything because he's not a person. In January he wrote a defense of settler-colonialism, which is definitionally genocidal.
He is overtly racist despite having a decent vocabulary. Rejecting warmongers who eagerly defend historical and ongoing genocides brings in far more people than it drives away
1) I'm not in the "dem party"
2) i don't require perfection of anyone, just that they not dedicate their lives to being racist genocidaires
3) shitty things can be forgiven if shitty people put in the work, but the notion that writing an occasional essay for centrist rubes is sufficient is stupid.
Can't think why people might dislike Bush's speechwriter, who coined the phrase "axis of evil", who was one of the major cheerleaders for the war in Iraq, and who libelled CAIR by saying they were friendly with terrorists.
*opens Wikipedia to look up David Frum*->"David Jeffrey Frum [...] is a Canadian-American political commentator and a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush."->*sighs, wonders if liberals will eventually also rehabilitate Trump's writers if USA ever get rid of Trump,... & closes Wikipedia*
(Oh and I just realized David Frum got caught by that Jesse Singal Followers blocklist I subscribed to. These Jesse Singal Followers moderation and blocklists truly are a reliable way to find people to block.)
Add to the list: Cheerleader for Iraq war that killed more than a million, mostly civilians, at the behest of Israel, for no good reason, on the basis of lies about WMD.
I'd never heard of him - or maybe I had & erased the memory - so I just went to have a nose at his profile to find he writes for Quillete...and yep, that's enough for me
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We don’t need that guy. He contributes nothing
This is why Dems wil forever lose
It's been the Republican platform for decades.
They don't like Trump because he says the quiet part out loud and they can't control him.
Tell me what he’s written lately that you hate
You clowns have absolutely no problem pushing out your own base. That's why you idiots lost.
2) i don't require perfection of anyone, just that they not dedicate their lives to being racist genocidaires
3) shitty things can be forgiven if shitty people put in the work, but the notion that writing an occasional essay for centrist rubes is sufficient is stupid.
But you know, forever his axis to grind
I've made fun of his mom being made fun of by SCTV - he never responded
Thanks for the heads up Molly👍💜