Nobody gets rich off of Social Security. Most people like me are barely subsisting on the program,. But it has helped from keeping us homeless and penniless. We paid every single cent into the program! It’s our money.
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It WAS your money. Then you all spent it on wars in the middle east. I am fine with current recipients losing it. As far as I am concerned they spent it. But the program must exist for the generation that died in those wars. It may not, because Trump is horrible.
It is OUR money. Yet, the government continually dips into it & raises the age for retirement in hopes that we will die before becoming eligible. It’s also been taxed since Reagan, which is just wrong.
Let them try to take it away. There won't be another GOP candidate to ever hold office. What's more, the current generation who is collecting were kids in the 60's. We know how to revolt and you can bet we will.
I agree with sentiment - but it's not "your money". It's a pay as you go system - so your money is already osu out to recipients. It's a contract - you'll get others' money when you begin to draw
It isn’t your/our money. You are TAXED to provide benefits to others. By doing so you earn credits to your own future benefit, which is in turn paid by taxes from other people.
I get 1400 and my housing is 1300.
if my adult son hadn't moved in, I'd be in the cold.
This year he bought me 4 new t-shirts. mine were all 4 years or more old.
New shirts. Not even thrift store!!
Rich from 1700$ 😕 a month more like barely living 🙁peasant times when the lords lived in castles and the peasants lived on vegetable soup daily #EATTHERICH
I wish the Maggots had realized this 2 months ago. Now, they may lose everything. Did they not notice when their drug prices went down after The Traitor was long gone.
I wasn’t sure about a screen capture of a post on another platform, but a quick search confirms this horrifiying story. Our healthcare system isn’t just broken, it’s corrupt and evil.
My mom lived with me. She got less than $900 a month in SSI. When I took her to the SSI dept to confirm she was still alive, they asked me how much rent she paid me. I told them I wasn’t charging my own mother rent. I was told she had to give me $500 a month in rent it lost her SSI. That was her
It's not actually our money until the government that took it says it is. Sadly, that has the potential to change every two years with new elections and politicians dissatisfaction with voters ability to fire them.
Any cut to Social Security will make it impossible for people to pay property taxes for the houses they've worked 40 years to own. For enough food for themselves and a pet. For prescription drugs for illnesses like asthma. They'll be homeless and uninsured in no time; dead not long afterward.
My mother was a factory worker who wore dollar store tennis shoes in the 60's and 70's on concrete floors. The little bit of SS she received from my deceased father helped keep us with food and shelter. It's a life saver for so many, not an entitlement...Donald!!!
I say this a lot and will keep repeating it. Nearly 100% of social security payouts to recipients goes directly back into the economy to pay for goods, services, rents, mortgages--all the things American businesses depend on.
In theory it should work well. If all the money we've paid into it over the years had not been "borrowed" by the government and not repaid . . . It's a fucking crime & it's not well documented and certainly not well understood how this "retirement" fund has been stolen from Americans already.
Pretty much my case as well; SS income makes it possible for me to be independent & not in debt. I would have had to constantly do without or use credit to take care of necessary things. I can't even imagine where I would be right now if it hadn't been for SS. Or where I'll be if it is cut or gone.
I’ll Never understand why the American people don’t see that Republicans are Not the party that will protect them & uphold programs that will help the poor & middle class! Why do they continue to vote against their own interests!! WTF
I dont know your system but it's always the weak, sick & old that get hammered when savings to be made. Same in UK torys wanted to cut by billions -to fund tax cuts for the top 1%. I used to admire people who built very succesful businesses. I see most now as power crazed greedy prikcs
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Absolutely correct, we paid for it. We deserve it. The government has squandered this personal slush fund, and left all those who contributed with nothing.
hell, my SSDI and 100%T&P through the army (NOTE FOR VETERANS, YES YOU CAN GET BOTH, NO THE STATE CANT DENY YOU FOR GETTING VA BENEFITS, IF THEY SAY THIS THEY'RE FUCKING LYING) is about 5400 a month, I'd be fucked without it considering my injuries and TBI and PTSD.
As soon as this regime is installed, write your conmen about it. Consider organizing a march on your local courthouse. I'm thinking a coordinated effort by all seniors and veterans would make an impact.
I wonder how many Veterans & others that receive social security & other benefits voted for republicans. It's no secret that republicans have been trying to eliminate Obamacare, cut Medicare & social security for decades & eventually they will succeed
Here's the funny part, the people keeping Soc. Security afloat are the undocumented workers using fake Soc. Security numbers that are paying into a system that they will never collect from.
Yep. Someone used my DDs SS number when she was 15-16. Paid 1000s in SS and Medicare taxes. It went into the pot that supports everyone on SS now. That person will not get SS. My DD won’t get benefits from it either.
The lower-income (and lower IQ) Boomer Magas who elected Trump will Find Out. But the GOP has also supported letting 20 million assault weapons go into private hands, with the majority of those in the hands of older, white, male, conservative gun owners. Things could get very ugly.
Well shame on younger liberals of color and other people of marginalized demographics for not being at least as well armed as the people who would most likely cause them harm.
I'd lean toward fewer guns, but that genie was out of the bottle long ago.
I suspect it will get ugly in Red States mostly. Black and Latino residents can't depend on the cops to protect them.
IDK how people live off just SS. I’m 73, still working. Avg rent in NE PA is 2k/month, if you’re lucky. Airbnb has taken inventory. PA has little to no help for struggling folks. My COLA was $2. They raised Medicare. I’m lucky I have an occupation that I can do until I drop. Not all are so lucky.
Blame the Democrats that didn't vote if we lose a single cent. Don't blame Trump or MAGAt's. Blame those Democrats with such superior morals they couldn't vote for Kamala and save our country and the world. You all stayed home and literally threw the whole world under the bus.
It all but ended elderly poverty in The US. But the place where abuse still occurs are the disability payments. MAGA has a lot of obese white men drawing down Social Security disability payments. Let’s see Trump and Musk reform THAT!
Dems need to learn how to fight. Your currant batch of republicon colleagues in all gov branches and justice 6 are all above the law thugs. They depend on weak Dems. Starlink rigged election and yall pretend its all legit. @aoc.bsky.social
They are committing political suicide if they cut it. If they do Peter, they have no intention of allowing the US to be a Democracy. They have no intention of ever having another election.
Over time, the GOP has done an excellent job of convincing people that “entitlement” is a dirty word. An “entitlement” is simply something you are entitled to.
Of course we are entitled to our own money.
I'd like Muskrat and Ramalamadingdong to try to take the benefits I worked over 40 years for. If they honestly wanted to cut waste? Let's eliminate cronyism and all these phony figurehead jobs doled out to unqualified asskissers
We must take to the streets now. Find a March, I looked for a women's march, but so the nearest march is by socialists against deportation, so am I. They know I am a dem, but I will march with them during the coronation on Jan 20.
Haven't decided on sign yet. May be Respect & Protect: Immigrants, Women's Rights (pink women's fist). Had a protect social security vote blue yard sign. Still deciding whether to use a roll-ator or rent scooter. Could hang SS sign on one of those.
But, Congress has raided that surplus repeatedly to fund overseas wars (Afghanistan and Iraq, mainly) and to hand billionaires and huge conglomerates massive tax breaks for campaign contributions. Congress just doesn't want to pay that money back.
What?!? You think you need the money more than Exxon-Mobil needs to keep an additional 5% of the billions they squeezed out of you with higher gas prices? How dare you!
I became disabled at 31. I’m now 54, and barely making it on $1200 a month. If they take it, I’m as good as homeless. Sure I’m not the only one! And then they want to jail the homeless?!
Why does everybody doubt the working plan our forbearers came up with? Just start paying back everything that was stolen from it and we’ll be fine. Trump’s incoming cabinet could fix it themselves and be American heroes if they chose to. That’s not their objective.
I'm a three times fully disabled single father of two who works in food service because if I make too much, they'll take my health insurance away. If anyone would like to give this a try, by all means, just let me know.
If people with pensions shouldn't collect, then they shouldn't have to pay. Why should people have the money they earn stolen because they got a good job?
Are you having a stroke? You seem to be incapable of following the logic train here. You suggested people with pensions should have their paychecks stolen so someone else can get free money. If people continue to abuse the social contract like it's a dog, the proles holding up the contract will bite
You earn a pension if you were lucky enough to have the option: just another form of compensation. You earn Social Security by paying in for years, and your employers matched your payments.
If you want to see what you paid so far, open an account (SSA.GOV) and see for yourself.
Social security was designed to keep people out of the poor house. That's why you pay into your entire lives. It's not a lot, that's why you save in an IRA or 401(k) to help provide a standard of living that's close to what you had when you were working.
The Social Security Administration actually tells you, when you start receiving Social Security benefits, that you can't subsist on Social Security and need other sources of income.
I have been trying to get mine for almost a year. The social Security website says my paperwork has been sent to their German office. The German office I have written to 3 tines, because a mail address is the only contact info.
Also, they deduct retirement benefits from other countries!? What?
I was on disability for over 6 years - chronic disease that flared horribly.
Without it I could not afford my medicine, rent, or food. I made enough to get into work, but my tips determined if I could get back home. I fought for 9 years to get my disability income.
Sick people deserve to survive!
When that happens and takes away what little one has left after contributing so long and has every right to, I feel a lot will fight for their rights to Social Security and Medicare!
Yup. It’s astounding that they are wanting to tell us “sorry you paid into the system all those decades but we’re taking and repurposing your money we told you we’d pay you back in your retirement when you’re too old to get a job as much of anything but a Walmart greeter”, if that’s even a thing.
Idgaf if it's your money or not, you still deserve the dignity and protection that social security provides.
You could've never paid a cent into it, if it's the difference between you being homeless or not, I support you using it.
Humanity approach, not financial approach
We have been putting money into that system, it is not the federal governments money. It isn’t trumps money even though thinks it is. Same with Medicare. I pay two insurance premiums a paycheck my current insurance and my future insurance and I will not be losing it. We can’t survive without both.
This is all some people who work for small businesses or working poor have for retirement. This helps parents raise kids when one parent dies. This money helps all of us. It our our money.
So, I get to spend my golden years being hungry and homeless, and then being arrested for it and shipped off to some detention camp while Trump and other billionaires dine at Mar-a-Lago with white supremacists.
Sad irony is: so many people that voted these people in are in a rough spot themselves, are clueless how little they matter to these elected officials (present company in this thread excluded). Veteran bitching about the last 4 years? Enjoy that VASH voucher while you still can.
I’m on disability. My checks are 940$ and the median living wage is around 1700-2000$… and you’re not allowed to save. And if you somehow do manage to save, don’t have it over 2000 or you can get fined or go to prison.
What do you mean? I merely corrected the statement that persons on SS disability can only have $2K in assets because that is not a factual statement.
Misinformation, even when unintentional isn't helpful. People shouldn't be dissuaded from applying for benefits they have paid for and need.
Of course they do. I'm not disputing that you are disabled, but there are three different forms of disability payments.
SSDI, private long term disability insurance, and SSI. The first two have no asset limits, the last does.
I was only providing corroborating evidence to what the person had mentioned… didn’t know I had to specify exactly one hundred percent the difference between the forms of disability but yeah from now on I will fully engage in semantics and whatnot beforehand. God forbid they have to ask for clarity
"Entitlement" = one gets what one pays for.
SS is not really supposed to be our only retirement option, but for many it is. 🙋
It was supposed to help the working poor, who had no savings.
It works so well, our payroll taxes also pay for orphans & disabled people too.
For a minute I thought wrote this post and forgot. That’s not impossible.
But yes, I second this, we need to create a “class” for class action or a union. I just wonder how.
The workers behind you paid “every single cent into the program” to support you and me. The cents we paid in supported the workers ahead of us. Yes, it’s our money but it’s not a savings account. Also, by law, SS is separate from the federal budget.
Warning! DOGE and WamaMusky are going to recommend Social Security sunset every so many years requiring renewal and doing away with cost of living increases. This is Rick Scott’s old plan. FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT for Social Security!
Agreed. The Fed gov must stop robbing it, pay back what they’ve scooped, put full SS retirement back to 65, provide mandatory training early on that it’s a safety net that individual savings is needed to avoid retiring into poverty, give examples and give corp incentive for offering 401ks. #ItsOur$
1/4 of my current benefits are survivor benefits because my wife made more than me. You can bet as the female widow of a woman, I'll be in the first round of cuts. We'd celebrated our 30th anniversary before I lost her.
I'm one of 30-35 people who worked on a research project that profited the department of defense about 2 billion dollars and will save about 40 billion more over the years.
My Social Security, yours, and the SS of everyone who reads this will not move the needle on just the profit from *me.*
I only bring this up because people with no grasp of economics like to say folks like you and I are "takers, not makers"
Well, my 'maker' tab is open at the bar. Anyone who doesn't feel they put enough in can have drinks on me.
And yet it wasn’t a big enough issue for seniors or soon to be seniors to vote blue. No sense in complaining now. We had our chance to do something in November when it counted. Now we get what the majority of the country voted for.
My retirement plans hinged on my Social Security continuing as before. I will have to go back to work if they take any part of it away. I earned it by working for nearly 50 years, it's mine. This cannot be allowed to happen.
When I was a kid top tax rate was 90%. Land grant universities were free basically, and for-profit healthcare was unimaginable. Reagan lower the rate to 28%, deregulated healthcare and cut federal funding for the land grant universities, bringing us billionaires, student debt and medical bankruptcy.
I get so sick and tired of people saying it's an entitlement. I've be paying into it since I was 15 and I'm 64 now. If their going to take it away then I what my money money back with interest!!!
My SS statement says I've paid in $250k since I started working at 16. Adjusted for inflation over four decades, that's probably upwards of a million dollars I've had taken from me with the promise it will be there when I retire. I should get at least that.
Maybe I simply failed to notice before, but this year's statement shows my entire contribution to the program, and what employers put in. I always saw the annual numbers before. Turned out to be my primary survival source. Roof and food. Let's pass it along to the next generations.
The problem with voting for known con artists, cheats and liars intent on monarchy is they will simply make taking all your money legal. Make no mistake - that is their plan.
The undocumented immigrants MAGA is dying to deport contribute $26 billion per year into SS, and aren't eligible to receive it back. Republicans probably can't end the program, but they can try to starve it of its funding by getting rid of people that pay into it.
That was all election year bullshit to scare white middle aged men and to make young men angry and concerned that SS and Medicare won’t be there when they retire. It served its purpose. Trump lacks the competence and support needed to actually do it.
That may be true for many of us with acquired disabilities. There are others though, with DD or caregivers who contributed decades of unpaid labor who have not had an opportunity to earn wages and pay in. Healthcare, housing, food, human rights.
There’s a lot of people who get rich off of government contracts, and then Republican tax cuts on top of it so they can buy elections and cut the benefits of all the regular folks who keep this country running. Democrats and Republicans are gonna have to ban together to keep our freedoms
yup. they'd Love it to Death if rich people could get richer off it. but it's prolly much easier just to kill it by decree, and steal all the money.
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My sister is reading the latest AARP magazine and said we get a 2.5% increase in January. BFD they raise the cost of Medicare so 2.5 goes back into the system.
I get my late husband’s ss which means I will never see what I paid in. A retirement stipend helps, but I need to live with relatives to remain solvent.
It is an agreed upon social net, albeit small when compared to what's needed to exist today. This is a measure of a civil society. We pay into the system and share with those who cannot work, and BONUS, we get our money back too. Not up for debate at this time, people.
My Medicare premium is $185 per month. It covers about 80% of services. Without a secondary insurance, I wouldn't be able to afford anything. I'm on an expensive drug, which forced me into an advantage plan, which refuses coverage anyway.
It's all a scam.Unaffordable for most senior citizens. It's unfortunate that it took vigilante justice to get people to rise up.I'm afraid it wasn't enough though. We are gonna have to figure out a way to right this ship. Politicians don't give a damn. Thanks to tax payers they have excellent care.
I'm not even a senior, just disabled. It's saved my butt to be sure, having any income, but really it's not enough already. And they want to cut it...just kills me.
My mil, who is pushing 90 and in heart failure, also doesn't have enough. Without family we'd both be screwed.
I hear ya. The more trump takes away, the more people will rise up and strike out. It may be the best thing that could happen for our country. The Democrats sure didn't do much to help. This 2.5% cost of living allowance is an insult.They claimed inflation was down but now they say it's back up. B S
I'm less concerned about "getting the money I paid in" and more focused that the program meets its goal to eliminate senior hunger, poverty and homelessness.
My 93 year old mother receives $1200 per month. Her assisted living is $4500. Her children pay the difference.
How do we look when our seniors start getting displaced?
Years ago when my husband was critically ill and not expected to survive I applied for my social security and we used that money for food. Yes, it helped us survive.
Hubby survived and lived another 25 yrs. Not sorry I took my social security. Added to his salary all those years.
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It is OUR money. Yet, the government continually dips into it & raises the age for retirement in hopes that we will die before becoming eligible. It’s also been taxed since Reagan, which is just wrong.
I worked 4 years past my normal retirement age, so I’m receiving 32% more in monthly benefits.
if my adult son hadn't moved in, I'd be in the cold.
This year he bought me 4 new t-shirts. mine were all 4 years or more old.
New shirts. Not even thrift store!!
https://www.businessinsider.com/josh-wilkerson-died-after-taking-over-the-counter-insulin-2019-8
Both parties have convinced people that it is a red team v blue team fight.
Both teams suck. voting for dems is like punching yourself in the dick every four years anymore.
January 20, 2025.
Honor MLK&shut Trump down with a #STAYHOMESTRIKE ➡️Don’t buy or sell anything&don’t watch his inauguration. As if‼️
Trump vows to sign EOs:
Cutting ACA #SS&fed workers
Deporting US citizens on day 1
LETSGO‼️
It will be a rude awakening for all the maggat seniors who voted for the orange traitor only to have him kick them to the curb…literally.
I say this a lot and will keep repeating it. Nearly 100% of social security payouts to recipients goes directly back into the economy to pay for goods, services, rents, mortgages--all the things American businesses depend on.
If you cut that off---everyone suffers.
https://www.pgpf.org/article/should-we-eliminate-the-social-security-tax-cap-here-are-the-pros-and-cons/
https://whitehouse.gov/contact/share/
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/546454-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-soaring/
I suspect it will get ugly in Red States mostly. Black and Latino residents can't depend on the cops to protect them.
Of course we are entitled to our own money.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/understanding-the-social-security-trust-funds-0#:~:text=Following%20the%20bipartisan%20Social%20Security,cost%20exceeded%20its%20total%20income.
Don't let them steal your money.
https://www.facebook.com/usaprogressive/videos/284198015546411/
But, Congress has raided that surplus repeatedly to fund overseas wars (Afghanistan and Iraq, mainly) and to hand billionaires and huge conglomerates massive tax breaks for campaign contributions. Congress just doesn't want to pay that money back.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/understanding-the-social-security-trust-funds-0#:~:text=Following%20the%20bipartisan%20Social%20Security,cost%20exceeded%20its%20total%20income.
If you want to see what you paid so far, open an account (SSA.GOV) and see for yourself.
Also, they deduct retirement benefits from other countries!? What?
Without it I could not afford my medicine, rent, or food. I made enough to get into work, but my tips determined if I could get back home. I fought for 9 years to get my disability income.
Sick people deserve to survive!
There was NO contribution on your paystub from the government
They need to shut the F up and stay away from it.
Piece of Shits !😵
CAUSE I hated working😂🤣
You could've never paid a cent into it, if it's the difference between you being homeless or not, I support you using it.
Humanity approach, not financial approach
I’m on SS disability and there are no asset limits.
Misinformation, even when unintentional isn't helpful. People shouldn't be dissuaded from applying for benefits they have paid for and need.
SSDI, private long term disability insurance, and SSI. The first two have no asset limits, the last does.
High-income employees stop paying SS tax after the yearly cap.
https://cepr.net/millionaires-stop-contributing-to-social-security-on-march-2-2024/
SS is not really supposed to be our only retirement option, but for many it is. 🙋
It was supposed to help the working poor, who had no savings.
It works so well, our payroll taxes also pay for orphans & disabled people too.
https://www.fool.com/retirement/2018/01/20/social-securitys-3-purposes-and-the-1-thing-it-was.aspx
But yes, I second this, we need to create a “class” for class action or a union. I just wonder how.
January 20, 2025.
Honor MLK&shut Trump down with a #STAYHOMESTRIKE ➡️Don’t buy or sell anything&don’t watch his inauguration. As if‼️
Trump vows to sign EOs:
Cutting ACA #SS&fed workers
Deporting US citizens on day 1
LETSGO‼️
This litigious president is going to get sued to kingdom come if he tries to fuck with my Social Security.
My Social Security, yours, and the SS of everyone who reads this will not move the needle on just the profit from *me.*
Well, my 'maker' tab is open at the bar. Anyone who doesn't feel they put enough in can have drinks on me.
These MFers want us dead.
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My SS is just enough to pay for my Medicare.
My mil, who is pushing 90 and in heart failure, also doesn't have enough. Without family we'd both be screwed.
Yes, they sometimes fail to stop greedy heartless Republicans who lie to racist morons who vote for hate and idiocy.
Guess why the COLA even exists?
How do we look when our seniors start getting displaced?
Hubby survived and lived another 25 yrs. Not sorry I took my social security. Added to his salary all those years.