he can't win, he has destroyed whatever good faith and grace he has with the left by giving a platform to a bigot without pushing back at all against the narratives of hate that were expressed
I literally just said a few days ago that I’ve never really liked Newsom because he seems like a used car salesman, but recently he has been growing on me. I ruined it.
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I feel 1000% sure there's background on this. I will be voting for Democrat. That was unfortunately never Harris (US is a racist, misogynistic society) but I voted for her.
How does this suddenly make him normal? Did Newsom declare he’s normal? Kirk’s audience/demo is clearly in need of an alternate perspective and some truth. If it gets some of them thinking, what’s the problem?
It would have been one thing if Newsome would have gone on Kirk's podcast (we have to show up in places and open people's eyes). But it's an entirely different thing for Newsome to host Kirk and give him any sort of legitimacy. JFC
You know who isn’t the enemy? Democrats! Stop this stupid shit. We are an umbrella! People are trying to reach folks some are trying new things, some are making bad decisions but guess what? They believe in America! Stay focused on the fascists because you are not helping
Yea not sure wtf our governor was thinking with that move.
@gavinnewsom.bsky.social no one asked for that or thinks of it as an act of “reaching across the aisle”. Charlie is the racist fck who said he’d be worried if his pilot was black. Amongst bunch of other bullshit.
I honestly thought he did well? I might be in a minority here but he is actually going on and putting some jabs in. That rocket douche won’t even go on with Jon Stewart. Newsome was charming as hell! If he can get through that little Nazi then I’d say that’s peak decorum
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Sure, but if they can’t act in unison on stuff like this then they’re barely a political party. One of the reasons the GOP always cleans their clocks is the GOP has message (and other) discipline. It’s especially helpful when in the minority.
dafuck? @repmoskowitz.bsky.social how's about you fucking explain yourself time now. it says a lot that most folks have no clue who the fuck these other people are, but your name's in the spotlight, motherfucker.
Yeah, and also please make sure to vote against pedophile enabler, lawful Congressional subpoena ignoring (1,000+ days now), and literal traitor to the United States of America, Jim Jordan - if you are in his ridiculously Gerrymandered district.
I’m in Emilia Sykes District thank God. I can’t stand Gym Jordan. Or any of the republicans in this state that have gerrymandered and gone against us voters.
Moskowitz and Suozzi??? SHOCK!!!
Shock and appalled by all who did!! They should have supported him. Good god dems, what the hell is wrong w/you? Censure trump!!!!
I guess you're right. I'm not familiar with a bunch of them but I AM familiar with Himes and Moskovitz and so...DAMN...I've just felt so much betrayal from my party lately. This is just THIS MORNING'S kick in the gut.
Up until recently, I was one to stick to the traditions that have preserved the honor and balance of our three branches of government. Not any longer. It’s time to stand for what’s right, not polite.
That image is where my daughter and I are right this moment. She is 25 and extremely engaged in our political state (she worked on the Harris campaign.) I mean, I'm fucking furious. But for HER? It's like a traitor is in our midst. She gave up so much to work on that campaign. And now THIS?...
Here are their Blue Sky accounts. I’d encourage letting them know how you feel.
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The other three aren’t on Blue Sky.
I don't have any problem with Newsom going on Charlie Kirk. How else are we supposed to get the other side to see our side? As far as the trans athletes go, at this point, is it really in our best interest to condemn Newsom for his point of view? No.
The fact that Newsom gave a platform to Kirk on Newsom’s DEBUT podcast episode is weapons-grade idiocy. Gavin must be auditioning for his next gig on CNN, not as a serious POTUS candidate.
I can't ever remember his name & get him mixed up with similar scumbags "Forehead" is better. His giant pumpkinhead covers up the sun when he's nearby.
Grow up. The adults in the room can be critical and engage in discourse at the same time. It's not abt changing Charlie's Kirk's mind. It's abt reaching the listeners. If you really only want to hear what makes you comfortable, maybe journaling is a better thing for you.
Kirk went on Newsom’s podcast. You shouldn’t be angry about it. If you don’t talk to the other side, no matter how horrifying their politics, you can’t fix it. We’ve lost a lot of men to the dark side. These men voted for Obama then Trump.
I love all the “grow up” glad you all have your excuse to be transphobic now I would rather now who my enemy is. Dude just agreed with all Kirk’s bs. Will you say say the same thing he Gaven agreed Zelenskyy was dictator or is your political priorities the only ones that matter
Guess you think a lot of white males in college can’t be reasoned with. 🤷🏻♀️ That is would they got. We assume because they are in college they care about things. Their brain doesn’t fully develop till 25.
Media is so segregated that if we don't start finding ways to talk to people who aren't steeped in progressive media, we'll lose the center too because lord knows the nightly mainstream news & billionaire owned newspapers aren't going to report accurately while kissing the ring
They hear the truth; they don't want to believe the truth. It's a cult. Target the great number of voters that did not vote. Find out why they gave up and address those issues and talk to those people.
Wake up, idiot. The interview will be chopped up, altered and fed back to the cultists as proof of how stupid Democrats are. Kirk is not an honest person, he is a propagandist and no matter what gavin did to try and protect himself, it won't work.
Except that it was Kirk who changed Newsom’s mind, getting Newsom to agree with MAGA’s anti-trans propaganda, & in so doing, Newsom abandoned the very people who helped get him elected & whose rights he vowed to protect. Newsom has lost all integrity.
I call BULLSHIT!
The "adults" you speak of...are residents of
Vichy America.
The soul of the country is at stake.
Its better to stand alone, than not stand at all.
Fight accordingly.
I am not sure wtf he was thinking. Trying to get federal funding? Hoping to get into the White House? There is no devil's advocate approach to this. I am disgusted.
He has been mostly quiet since Trump went after the fires, and it was in the back of my mind that he got to him in some way. Well, this confirms it for me, Kirk? WTF! We are not done with the fallen Democrats, so get ready for more! We just had 9 or 10 of them vote to censure their own!
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I will point out that he was married to Kimberly Guifoyle for five years and if anyone has dirt on a person it's definitely an ex-wife 🤷♂️
I have been noticing the same thing, how he hasn't displayed his trademark courage and assertiveness since surprising Trump on the tarmac in LA. Now THIS. Something is wrong.
i’ve been saying same thing. i thought maybe he was sitting low not pushing it before fed budget battle to try and get as much money as he can for our socal fires. i thought he might be silent in the interest of his people. but now im questioning it. something smells in denmark, i mean california.
Oh my, the pearl clutching here and the Dem purity pill. It’ll be the death. Didn’t listen but calling it “promoting” seems off the mark. Exposing might be a better word, and trying to attract that demo to listen to another perspective isn’t the worst idea. Does everyone remember that we LOST?
I'm not willing to wait for perfect reps, but that's a personal choice. And frankly, if hypocrisy in a politician is a dealbreaker, best of luck finding people to vote for who can actually win. It's all a matter of degree and I accepted long ago I may have to plug my nose on the 2nd Tuesday.
Simple isn't going to get us a Democratic Congress or save us from the dire situation we are in. Self righteousness doesn't help, either. Have a good day.
I took a course on how to deal with difficult people.
Rule number 1.
Go to the problem person/people and ask how they would do XYZ.
It's how we learn to communicate with folks we don't like, can't understand etc.
Neo-Nazis like Kirk are not merely “difficult people” with whom one exercises polite discourse to try to understand their position; they are morally abhorrent social pariahs who do not deserve a platform— doing so normalizes their evil.
Yeah, the “if all dems in the minority don’t either do the right specific performative dance for my taste, or better yet, magically stop the majority from doing stuff, I’m going to have to vote third party or not vote… again” energy is very similar to the energy that got us here.
Exactly!!!
Hillary is not perfect.
Biden is too old.
Harris should have appeared in some random bro podcast; should not have talked to Liz Cheney....blah blah blah
I'll be voting for those that actually defend democracy and the innocent.
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Charlie Kirk tried to claim this was an example of him defusing political violence
which is of course a lie as when pressed on where “the line is” on when they can start murdering officials (3:10), he folds and says that it’s ok to murder officials if the courts don’t rule your way
I saw am ENTIRE democratic party stand down when he was being arrested/removed. Not a finger was lifted to support him and now his peers are censuring him.
My representative is one of them that voted for this censure. The representative would have lost in 2024 if it wasn't for the Libertarian on the ballot that took votes away from the Republican. You can be fairly sure that vote would have been an attack ad in2026.
OK but we won’t get the Kirk audience until they are in the same room. We know what Fox did with it and we know that Kirk is an idiot. How else can you get the audience and buck them?
Why fluff a nobody like Kirk on a program that reaches very few people, when going into the lion’s den at Fox reaches many more people, many of whom don’t know what a podcast is.
That may be true but we lost a lot of young voters to Trump. Podcasts and Tic Tok are how you reach young voters. Newsom is wise to be using a podcast as a platform. Obama wouldn’t have won without the youth vote.
I need to listen to the interview, if I can stand it, but teaching civility through your actions, and being open to hearing each other without arguing, has been lost. Maybe the hope is Kirk will ruminate then be able to bring a message to his own listeners that they never would have heard before.
As a Californian, voted for him for Gov. But never thought Newsom was a good candidate for President, he wouldn't sell well in the battle ground States maybe this is strategy?
He won’t do well in red states. They think all of Cali are crazy. Not agreeing, but I’m surrounded by them and it’s really about making America white male Christian controlled again. They can deny it but that’s the hard fact. You can reason with them all day long and won’t change them.
Wonder if we'll have a Democratic primary? And what about a new party with candidates that are like minded with Bernie Sanders, Al Green, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett? I bet if you took a poll today, you would find that the Democrats currently in the White House would fail miserably, and rightly so.
Would you not vote for Jon Stewart if he were to promote Elon Musk (nazi salute & anti DEI guy) on The Daily Show? I don’t think we can judge until after the interview. I think more candidates need to interview MAGA influencers. If we judge Dems by inviting racists on their podcast, we’re doomed.
THIS ^^^ He betrayed thousands of his California constituents—the very people who helped elect him and whom he vowed to protect. The LGBTQ community and their thousands of allies can no longer trust him.
Don’t these people have advisors? Or friends? I wasn’t keen on his judgement for having been married to Don Jr’s former flame—but people change. Then this? I’m out.
I agree with in general but tried listening g to the podcast and it was horrible. 75% of the time Kirk is talking, Newsome giving him way too much praise. Kirk is a full blown racist who said he wouldn’t trust a black pilot, doesn’t think trans people should exist.
Yes I agree, but I would rather Kirk's followers listen to the podcast.
What would be the purpose of pulling Kirk into the podcast just to lambast him? Charlie's followers would not even listen to the podcast. Defeats the purpose.
I appreciate leaders who are willing to just listen sometimes
If Kirk’s listeners aren’t hearing the other side or hear him getting corrected then what’s the purpose? You don’t have to lambast Kirk to do that. His supporters probably thought he owned Newsom, or sure anything good came out of this
Newsom is a snake oil salesman (long time, left-leaning dem here). He has spent his entire time as governor running for president - playing the long game, for 2028, that is. Remember, anyone who was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle couldn't have his head screwed on straight. He is pure smarm.
I just don’t think Newsom being Newsom (who is really impressed with Newsom) is really the problem right now. I’m much angrier at Jeffries and the Democratic Congressional leadership.
... except that Newsom is positioning himself to swoop in & grab the '28 nomination eclipsing real, genuine honest leaders, like Buttigieg. Then we'll end up with what we've always had: weak, spineless Democrats who are more worried about polling and appearances than actual, radical change.
Did you watch the whole thing or just the one highlight? As a father of a female athlete, I can understand Newsom's point on that issue. He disagreed with Kirk on way the right views and discriminates against the community. He signed the protections into law, as the will of the people.
I would also like a state of the union rebuttal that doesn't celebrate George Bush and Ronald Reagan. Seriously wtf is wrong with the democratic party.
I’ve lived in California for 54 years. We got this. Gavin is a master at trolling the MAGAts. This is not like he went to CPAC and state on a stage like Cenk did and kissed their ass for maga crumbs. He’s cock blocking these needle dick weenies and we need to respect that.
Lol. Same. Such a douchebag move...and I liked and SUPPORTED Newsom!! Imbecilic and lazy. He's completely lost the plot, and fell for the culture war nonsense.
I swear those who say we need to understand and have compassion for these incel creeps need to get with the fucking program. There's a reason they are universally despised amongst anyone except their own kind .
I actually don’t think it’s bad to get out of the comfort zone because these fucks are never challenged on their views outside of these dumb college or jubilee debates
Newsome should only be trusted as far as you can throw him. He’s padding his nest in case this shit goes south on us. Hired his best friends wife, then screwed him over by screwing her.
He’s not our savior, hardly even a friend.
I hope we’re not seeing some Bill-Clinton-esque establishment “third way” shift to move further to the right in the mistaken believe MAGAts will vote Dem.
MAGATs won’t but all 77M of those who voted for him aren’t fully MAGA pilled, some have a brain and may be persuaded that this radical path is not the way. We ignored them before and lost.
I am all for having conversations with conservatives. As long as they want to preserve democracy, aren't racist, don't hate trans folks, etc etc. That leaves a pretty short list, and Kirk sure as hell ain't on it.
I'll go with Josh Shapiro and Andy Breshear. We can't keep making the same mistakes. Harris/Clinton had their shot. I like AOC but she and Pete Buttegieg ain't it.
All of those things have become ineffable to conservatism after about...2008? Certainly sooner, but it's right around the point that Birtherism and Tea Party was code for...what more recently morphed into anti-woke, MAGA behavior. The virtue signalling, ID politics of the right.
Newsom went on FOX with de Santis and humiliated him right out of the presidential race. Uneducated Kirk is no match for Newsom. Nothing wrong with taking it right to these a-holes. Better than Jeffries on a book tour or Schumer cowering for AIPAC.
No, that isn't what I am saying. Someone should have made inroads into Fr. Coughlin's flock. Maybe we wouldn't have the Proud Boys today. And Kirk already has a platform. One that needs to be dismantled. That is only accomplished by cracking into that base. Ignoring it is why we have Trump.
We don’t have the luxury of being nice to nazis anymore, dude. They need to be put back in their place.
The phrase “step up or step (the fuck) aside” is of the utmost importance these days. If you’re not going to stand up to fascism, don’t get in the way of those of us who are willing to. Okay? :)
Ridiculing them is not being nice. You're allowing fascism by ignoring those who promote it. I run political campaigns. Been beating white supremacist a-holes with Black, brown and indigenous candidates routinely. What have you done? You are getting in my way...okay?
And yet... They control everything and hold all the most powerful positions and are building death camps through subcontractors that'll be ready in weeks, AS YOU DO WHAT YOU DO SO CHECK YOURSELF.
THOSE OF US YOU'VE IGNORED THE ENTIRE TIME HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY FIGHTING NAZIS PHYSICALLY FOR YOU, GET IT
But why be nice to the sycophants of fascists? At what point will you hold them accountable and want them out of the public eye? Is it only once they start executing us?
For me, it was when boys in my daughter’s NINTH grade class said “your body, my choice” around her, while joking about rape.
In theory, I agree with what you are saying. However, what Newsom did was not that. He ended up trying to find common ground, and we *know* appeasement does not work.
You can't throw all of Trump's 77 million voters away. We need them. Common ground is exposing what Trump is doing. Look at the Republican town halls. You can't lump them all into Kirk's fascist thought...but he dies bring them to the table.
Homie, we live on a comically overpopulated planet that is being choked to death by boomers who majorly supported MAGA candidates. I’m not saying we kill em all. I’m saying “FUCK THEM ALL”. As in, who gives a flying fuck about what they think. They support literal Nazis. FUCK. THEM. ALL.
Of course I saw it. Newsom had a plan, and followed through on it. He played Kirk. The college dropout who has a huge college following. Politics is a game. A game Kirk and Trump won last time. Keep your eye on the prize.
I grew up fighting for that prize that has been won and lost several times in this place. For me it’s what Kirk spews more than his dropout status. Also, I’m aware Newsom’s preteen is enamored with Kirk which as a parent requires a serious convo. Not a game, it’s dangerous.
Kirk does appeal to that generation. Maybe it's because pre-teens aren't fully educated yet, like Kirk. Carnival barkers have the same effect. Those pre-teens do eventually become adult voters. And currently Kirk has no competition. It was a good move by Newsom to make inroads inti that base
It’s that “maybe,” and the effect that that lack of education may have on their minds as they mature(longer for boys).
I’ve listened to Kirk speak on numerous occasions and I find him blatantly offensive. Newsom revealed some reversals on previous stances. Not quite a win.
No, he didn't agree with Kirk on everything. Newsom is the one that legalized same sex marriage in California. Kirk was as just a conduit to his ignorant base. You can't get proper messaging to them if they shut you off.
He explicitly said that he opposed trans athletes in women’s sports and called it “unfair”, and said that trans minors should not have access to healthcare. I watched the video. I’m not deaf or blind.
Good for him that he legalized gay marriage in California. Evidently he’s changed his tune
Preferably someone who has never won an election, except in a solidly blue district, who can't think on their feet, and who manages to alienate three-fourths of the country every time they open their mouth. The non-voters will really like them, though!
Sadly, true. I liked Gavin Newsom, ignoring his marriage to Kimberly Guilfoyle. Now, looking at the whole situation, I think I should never have ignored Newsom’s choices. Charlie Kirk as his first guest?
Ugh. My new Rep to the Michigan House is a CK acolyte. And quite young and inexperienced - no degree completed, lives with parents, but boy she's a cute blonde.
Newsom is widely considered a super-slick far left California Lib.
Good luck changing that image but maybe his PR people are trying - magas are not smart so if cozying up to some of them works we might get more Ds elected.
Newsom is Central Casting (smart, good-looking) but not sure I trust him. 🤨
They haven’t felt any real pain, yet. We will see. Most are all in on fascism, racism and white supremacy. Plus many only listen to what Trump directly tells them.
I don’t get it either but if I had a choice between Newsom or Vance next week I know I am not punching my ticket for the guy who literally went to Germany to campaign for actual real NAZIs in a foreign election.
Fair enough. Sadly Kirk and Rogan are what passes for middle of the road Republican right now. And Newsom is not wrong in his comments on trans athletes.
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Why can't you people see that he's reaching out to that audience? These are radicalized young men who only see the left, or even the center, through a red lens. Ffs get out of the echo chamber.
So he would have gone on his show not the other way around. You are naive if you think the point the to bring the right wing to the left it’s to do the opposite bring the left wing to the right.
I totally understand what you are saying. I would just think the first episode would promote democrats. This is not business as usual we need to promote the right people for this time. Dems just aren’t getting it.
Do you honestly believe his followers will watch and say "golly gee I think im a democrat now". No hes just doing it for publicity. Look at Meidas Touch they are #1 in the world over Joe Rogan now and dont platform bad faith actors like Charlie Kirk. Those times are gone.
I dont think you understand the difference between a discussion with two real people and a discussion with a grifter. The grifter will never be honest and is wasting your time. Would you sit down for 2 hours and talk to a psycopathic liar? What do you gain from that?
I need you to hear yourself. I'm not trying to be condescending rn, take a step back and read that comment and then consider what a 20 yo kid whose been told his whole life that dems are evil and hateful would think.
Again, you can have a legitimate conversation with a real person. I talk with Trump voters all the time and we're friends. However, Charlie Kirk is a political operative that lies about everything. Newsome would be way better off going around and interviewing fired government workers.
Newsom is about as tone deaf as Bill Maher. There is some odd tendency for some Democrats to think they need to buddy up with people like Kirk. Charlie Kirk represents the worst of our country and giving him this forum lends credibility to a guy that deserves none.
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But, the reason Trump is president is because DNC campaigns ignored independents, and the Musk team did not.
@gavinnewsom.bsky.social no one asked for that or thinks of it as an act of “reaching across the aisle”. Charlie is the racist fck who said he’d be worried if his pilot was black. Amongst bunch of other bullshit.
Bad move Governor.
start talking. immediately.
Shock and appalled by all who did!! They should have supported him. Good god dems, what the hell is wrong w/you? Censure trump!!!!
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The other three aren’t on Blue Sky.
They will feel pain as 🟠💩 guts the federal govt, spikes prices, and tanks the economy
Someone needs to tell them the truth as to why it's happening
Vulnerable people are totally gettable votes
This is how you break the cult
Talk to EVERYONE!!!
Hardship breaks the cult
Job loss breaks the cult
Measles breaks the cult
Losing benefits breaks the cult
...but ONLY if people understand why those things happened
I'd rather end MAGA now than fight it forever
Damned if you do; damned if you don't. Damned. Doesn't matter. Just damned 24/7/365.
The "adults" you speak of...are residents of
Vichy America.
The soul of the country is at stake.
Its better to stand alone, than not stand at all.
Fight accordingly.
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Rule number 1.
Go to the problem person/people and ask how they would do XYZ.
It's how we learn to communicate with folks we don't like, can't understand etc.
New: Dems should not engage with white men in different platforms.
Give it a rest.
Focus on the fvKKKing GOP.
Hillary is not perfect.
Biden is too old.
Harris should have appeared in some random bro podcast; should not have talked to Liz Cheney....blah blah blah
He was never going to run. Good grief. You all made shit up. Newsom has always been contrarian and the fact you’re surprised is hilarious
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which is of course a lie as when pressed on where “the line is” on when they can start murdering officials (3:10), he folds and says that it’s ok to murder officials if the courts don’t rule your way
What would be even better is if we could get a millennial who is not JD Vance to run.
I hate that I have to admit that but white, straight, and male is probably the safest way to go for a while. :-/
Jared Moskowitz, i am looking at you!
@repmoskowitz.bsky.social
But please, enlighten me about politics.
https://bsky.app/profile/nerdypursuit.bsky.social/post/3ljpnowidis2i
Whereas Newsom is creating more airtime for right-wingers.
Newsom can do what he wants. But it's not the same thing as Pete.
But fkn Charlie Kirk 😖
Don't know who that would be right now
But we need to stop the bleeding and heal before we can run again
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From June, 2024:
https://bsky.app/profile/whoiskf.bsky.social/post/3ljqb4av6m22a
I think its beneficial to have discussion even with those who do not align with our own principles.
I am independent moderate, these are discussions that should be happening more, even in the first episodes
Americans can't only focus on our differences, we will never come back together as a united nation. Common ground is needed
Seems very flimsy
Why is the onus always on us? Why is it assumed we're the ones in the wrong?
I think you have to sit and listen, let someone like Kirk see that you can have a reasonable conversation and hear them out.
I believe this is a chess move, he wants to win favor of moderate GOP and Dem voters.
What would be the purpose of pulling Kirk into the podcast just to lambast him? Charlie's followers would not even listen to the podcast. Defeats the purpose.
I appreciate leaders who are willing to just listen sometimes
The Democratic Party of staid decorum and crossed fingers and sternly worded letters is done.
I also wouldn’t trust second-hand reporting I NBC the content of the discussion.
I just don’t think Newsom being Newsom (who is really impressed with Newsom) is really the problem right now. I’m much angrier at Jeffries and the Democratic Congressional leadership.
He’s not our savior, hardly even a friend.
Newsom went on FOX with de Santis and humiliated him right out of the presidential race. Uneducated Kirk is no match for Newsom. Nothing wrong with taking it right to these a-holes. Better than Jeffries on a book tour or Schumer cowering for AIPAC.
Your comment is like saying we should have given a stable platform for Father Charles Coughlin to preach his antisemitic bullshit back in the 40s.
The phrase “step up or step (the fuck) aside” is of the utmost importance these days. If you’re not going to stand up to fascism, don’t get in the way of those of us who are willing to. Okay? :)
THOSE OF US YOU'VE IGNORED THE ENTIRE TIME HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY FIGHTING NAZIS PHYSICALLY FOR YOU, GET IT
For me, it was when boys in my daughter’s NINTH grade class said “your body, my choice” around her, while joking about rape.
If you want to sacrifice your own rights to appease fascists, that is your problem. You DO NOT have the right to sacrifice the rights of trans people.
I’ve listened to Kirk speak on numerous occasions and I find him blatantly offensive. Newsom revealed some reversals on previous stances. Not quite a win.
Good for him that he legalized gay marriage in California. Evidently he’s changed his tune
I do not have confirmation from a trusted source.
Good luck changing that image but maybe his PR people are trying - magas are not smart so if cozying up to some of them works we might get more Ds elected.
Newsom is Central Casting (smart, good-looking) but not sure I trust him. 🤨
Americans are already feeling pain from Trump/Musk
All Dems should be on ALL MEDIA getting a message out to ALL VOTERS how REPUBLICANS are hurting them
This is about 2026
Stop imposing an artificial ceiling on the number of votes Democrats can get
Want to impeach AND convict 🟠💩?
Talk to EVERYONE!
Time makes more converts than reason
Losing a job or benefits or Healthcare makes ANYONE willing to listen
I don’t get it either but if I had a choice between Newsom or Vance next week I know I am not punching my ticket for the guy who literally went to Germany to campaign for actual real NAZIs in a foreign election.
Newsom is a bit of a troll - there is time
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtLtpOr
“An American President is not a king—not even an ‘elected’ one,” District Judge Beryl Howell wrote in a 36-page opinion, “and his power to remove federal officers and honest civil servants … is not absolute, but may be constrained in appropriate circumstances.”
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I am erasing him off of any potential future.
WTH?
Dumb move.
how bout you get your head out of your ass?