Telegraph (Fraser Nelson)
"Our immigrant population has almost doubled while our crime rate has halved....we seem to have attracted immigrants who, by and large, are prone to integrate and strengthen the social fabric."
https://archive.ph/ryMuH
"Our immigrant population has almost doubled while our crime rate has halved....we seem to have attracted immigrants who, by and large, are prone to integrate and strengthen the social fabric."
https://archive.ph/ryMuH
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Leaves me with mixed feelings: as column shows, FN is smart, serious and "liberal".
Yet his tenure as Spectator editor was marked by constant promotion of far-right racists/ethnonationalists/fascists as a deliberate commercial strategy.
He _has_ had an epiphany 😀
*Now his salary doesn't depend on it.
Obviously, we all have to put food on the table but I'm pretty sure FN hasn't had to worry about his grocery bills for quite a while.
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Nelson shouldn't be allowed to walk away from his time taking the Spectator there.
Man might not be racist but he's about freedom of capital above all else.
If racism sells, he'll sell it. And if can be weaponised to benefit parties who emphasise freedom of capital, all the better.
Nelson's writing and social media around this subject is vile. The idea that he's a secret liberal is laughable.
Grouchy Marx
Actually polls show its way down most people's priorities. It's only the likes of Spectator and Telegraph that keep it bubbling.
https://democrats.org/news/crime-rates-have-fallen-under-president-biden-while-trump-and-maga-republicans-side-with-violent-criminals-over-law-enforcement/
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https://pca.st/episode/f5cd2adf-bea1-487b-bd24-35166593d87f
If you're racist as shit. Immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than citizens. Old news. Xenophobia is stupid.
Has he had an epiphany?
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/worried-about-britain-s-poor-social-mobility-here-s-a-way-to-change-things/
Would I be want a child/grandchild of mine to marry a young person from a family that came here in the last 50+ years? You bet I would.
A good point worth raising, although I did have to check the article link to make sure that 'our' actually ment the UK.
I guess now he’s no longer editing The Spectator he’s got himself a new character sheet and decided to play a liberal in this next tabletop campaign.
Immigrants get the job done!
Normally we would drill down to see where the population is providing this decrease in crime, it could be all sections are hot spots!
Perhaps reporting and or classification of crimes has changed
Which these right wing papers have some responsibility for.
These are the same people that say anti-black racism is dead.
The 3.9 rapes per min by citizens-literally no attention!
What percentage of incarcerated criminals are foreigners?
Has the way crime statistics are gathered changed?
Generally a higher proportion of crimes against women are reported now than in past
But on the whole crime is much lower than 1970s ( link to reduction in lead in petrol has been proposed)
Trying to conflate two stats to get a shit headline. “… we seem to have attracted … “
Give me a break.
Divorce caused by frozen peas!
Get. Him. Deported.
Our country is, of course, one of immigrants, who have historically, once situated, not welcomed immigrants.
It will never matter. The ‘least of these’ will always bear the burden of being ‘the problem’. We may be the top off the food chain, but humans inherently suck.
But it is employment. Post pandemic and the Biden infrastructure bill there were low paying jobs for which these immigrants could contribute right away.
With CHIPS and Inflation Reduction, many Americans moved to higher paying jobs. No need for crime when you are employed.
Has he been visited by the ghosts of Christmas?
They have zero interest in attracting the attention of the authorities. They also usually live in communities surrounded by fellow immigrants and look after each other.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/455478/how-migration-really-works-by-haas-hein-de/9780241998779
But broader point is that the *massive* fall in violent crime in UK can't possibly be explained by immigration - just too big!
(Every true Brit that emigrates should be issued with a regulation pith helmet, long shorts and a large, leather, monickered packing case upon their departure from this sceptic isle! Huzzah! And don’t drink the water!)
Oklahoma - 100% Red - is not a major destination for immigrants, but the inhabitants have been stirred up to fear them.
8.76% in Bassetlaw.
In Remain voting Bristol 18.8% were born outside the UK.
Unsurprisingly bilingual people are the most outward-looking and the most culturally aware.
People who have the wherewithal to make a life in a new country, perhaps functioning using a second language, are just likelier to have the skills not to live a chaotic life and fall into crime.
(I've been harmed by several white/British males, but not a single time by immigrants).
Making a 'new life' is not the typical act of a criminal. They kinda want to acquire the nice bits of yours, for low effort.
your only takeaway you're just giving up
They follow the rules and follow the steps to citizenship.
My sister sees it almost everyday now in the M&S she works in, anecdotal I know, but the numbers prove it’s a big problem.
Not being serial killer, can live with that.
https://www.pbs.org › nation ›
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/if-you-are-business-fox-news-you-are-hook-its-white-nationalism
Yet, in Australia many longstanding & angry English immigrants still don't fit in?
Immigrants want to fit in and can't jeopardise their visas by committing crimes.
Citizens don't expect to be deported for crimes, so they don't care.
It's Russian!
https://steigerlegal.ch/2024/05/05/archive-today-russland/
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