One truly pathetic feature of our times is the idea that replacing human information gatekeepers (scientists, journalists, etc.) with algorithms written by Silicon Valley bros is some kind of blow for liberty or free speech.
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So, America doesn't do coups? Trump has called for it. If this isn't done, we will be in WWIII and millions will die. Junta now and fuck what it looks like. Junta for democracy. NOW
oh he's good on some of the climate/energy policy stuff (some is far to nerdy for me). I'm not saying I disagree with him on other issues (sometimes I definitely do, but bashing tech bros, have at it). But energy policy etc. is what he does for a living.
“Normal people don’t have cocktail parties” and “no one knows who Dave Robert’s is.”
Must be quite nice to waltz through life with the absolute conviction that your experiences are, or should be, the de facto foundation for everyone else’s reality.
that Outsider acct is right though. It was not clear if he was against the change, against a particular rhetoric, against AI, whatever. With more characters than Twitter, it's worth it to make sure a post is clear here.
Breaking down what has been written:
A pathetic idea:
"AI replacing scientists/journalists is a negative thing (blow) for liberty/free speech". So if the idea is pathetic, then the opposite must be true - "AI is good for free speech/liberty". So yeah it's unclear what you meant, honestly.
OK, I thought this was pretty clear, but to spell it out: we've gone from gatekeepers that, for all their blind spots, operate in public & are subject to some accountability... to algorithmic gatekeepers that are opaque, unaccountable, & designed by a tiny, blinkered class of dudebro dipshits.
Yes, and the opacity is core to the gatekeepers' business models. If LLM developers ever revealed their source data, their liabilities to the content creators would put them out of business. That could happen in any case, depending on pending litigation filed by NYT and others.
Yep. Definitely how I first read it. Gave it a 🤔, kept reading, and it took me a minute to see where the meaning flipped between what was said and what I read.
Yes, even not mentally autocorrecting it to to "to", I read "blow for" to mean "got a blow" rather than "a blow to something else on behalf of". So it was confusing to parse.
These guys don't even really have to care if the algos 'work' either. The purpose of the algos isn't to function, it's to get enough PR to boost share prices. (And to boost propaganda.)
Good news: now you can write your own algo anywhere in the world. Bad news: the real problem is trust and reputation. Do you trust all journalists and their owners ? Users need to indicate who they trust ( direct or indirect ) - and algos to use that, without the spam.
"Would you use it in the desert when your car broke down and you were developing a feaver instead of the local tracker, an experienced mechanic and an expert in tropical diseases that suddenly appeared from the East."
"Blinkered" is right. True story: I worked once for a company selling accounting software whose engineers never bothered to consult an accountant. Needless to say, the software didn't really work. Or, well, it worked fine, so long as you didn't care about ever balancing the books.
Your original post had some confusing structure (it happens to me way too often, too!🤦♀️). So, the clarification was necessary because what you meant to say is accurate.
Fascism requires the undermining of education and the cognitive adoption of capital power as the avenue for control so normalizing it with projection is how they get their scam adopted.
On the contrary, I think people should realise that 'liberty' and 'free speech' as known in the USA are intended exactly for this outcome - for moneyed interests to control our lives, and to eliminate any brakes set by the public and the democratic bodies.
They're going for a total oligarchical control over the population through sophisticated propaganda bearing no resemblance to reality... The term sheeple... They're trying to make it a reality. Next send the deletion bots? We are entering a global nightmare 💀😥🤬
I think most scientists are rather the opposite of gatekeepers. They're trying their hardest to get their knowledge out to the public and to get decision-makers to listen, frustrated when people won't walk through the wide-open gate.
Gatekeepers in the context of information about their speciality is really only shared and communicated by people of their speciality as opposed to whatever Joe blow gets the most interaction.
At least that's how I interpret it. I think it's an important thing that doesn't get much discussion; not all voices have equal value in a discussion and it's unbearably short-sighted to think that they are.
Anti-intellectualism in the public sphere is also driving a certain subset of people to *most distrust* those who have learned the most about a topic. Perversely, they most trust those who clearly know the least.
Have you been in Facebook jail? I have, numerous times. I should be allowed to rage to myself. I'm not sharing them with anyone. But it IS why I am looking for a good attorney for my judgement day review.
I'm trying to understand your point. Are you saying that any sort of gatekeeping is bad, or that there's no difference between different types of gatekeeping because there is still gate? And given the concentration of power in SV, isn't a more decentralized, human gate inherently better?
I believe it will be just such a blow to the alleged free speech in question. Just like an algorithm designed to deny healthcare claims is a threat to our collective health. Just like Fox news is a threat to the intelligent, though they did not drink the cool-aid..
Feedback loop seems closed off to human input also. No need for AI use except in select settings. Quality of life for the average person is negatively impacted by interactions with algorithms over and over that don’t address issues at hand. Progress only for oligarchy- let’s cut costs is the mantra
I think you've had the crap kicked out of you sufficiently on this thread: it's probably better to have a human hide some information than to watch an algo completely fuck up all messagimg? Is that what you meant? I think we can all agree that ai clod fucking our data is worse than no data.
I don't think algorithms have had the kind of impact that some people think; instead, the fact that we're all publishers means we've flooded the info space with low quality content and disrupted the agenda setting power of institutions in the process.
I think part of our problem may be that (if you read or watched science fiction) many of us grew up ingesting stories of benevolent computers filtering garbage for us without any agenda unless specifically programmed to by evil entities.
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https://youtu.be/JMdXG4oT-4A?si=KQE_1zEd-kDr_-uJ
Answer: no.
Must be quite nice to waltz through life with the absolute conviction that your experiences are, or should be, the de facto foundation for everyone else’s reality.
Where do I sign up?
A pathetic idea:
"AI replacing scientists/journalists is a negative thing (blow) for liberty/free speech". So if the idea is pathetic, then the opposite must be true - "AI is good for free speech/liberty". So yeah it's unclear what you meant, honestly.
https://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Brief-History-Information-Networks/dp/059373422X
Elon musk being allowed to take over tick tock? We're so totally fucked.
I've spent my entire life of 74 years trying to work towards a better planet. It's become a NIGHTMARE
Keir Starmer's announcement to "turbocharge AI" bureaucracy has me a little freaked out. It's about way more than the energy necessary to power it.
https://bsky.app/profile/meredithmeredith.bsky.social/post/3lfp5obropc2h
Platforms that let people publish stuff easily: good for public discourse
Algorithmic feeds and discovery mechanisms tuned to maximize engagement: terrible for public discourse
https://bsky.app/profile/volts.wtf/post/3lfpxilgugc2m
Waitaminute… who wrote the algorithms and profits off them again?
But it helps them make SO MUCH $$$!
Burn the heretic!
And that the evil entities were a rare exception.