Spoken like someone who has never left the United States removing guns does not stop people from commiting act of voilence. It only stops them from committing it with guns, but please do explain the high rates of knife stabbings found in the UK, European and Asian countries.
Until the stabbing rates are anywhere near the gun violence deaths … we’ll take that over 323 school shootings a year. Yall okay with this being reality for people?
CNN notes that the recent incident in Wisconsin marks the 83rd school shooting in 2024. So tell me where are you pulling out the 323 number out that ass of yours?
Oh I have no idea where I pulled it from. Maybe every fucking source even the first one YOU gave admitted it. It just said “well.. it’s okay if no one is killed, only 50+ kill people”
Do you guys read any fucking facts? Like YOUR SOURCE said it too, dumbass.
Completely missed the point have you? The 323 number is false lets see a source for that number. Education Week, which tracks incidents resulting in injuries or deaths, reports 39 school shootings so far this year.
Ah, yes telling people to get some empathy and that they are disgusting meanwhile you stand on the dead bodies of these kids saying: “hey maybe these stats are wrong and reported incorrectly but the ends justify the means.”
Ah, yes nothing says mental health and trauma by lying about the facts causing more problems for people who actually have mental health issues and trauma from a mass shooting. But hey as long as you can stand on those people graves and morally grand stand and lie about the facts its okay right?
Keep it in a file for the copy and paste moment, and label it "thoughts and prayers" It's might save so much time in the future. Think how many "thoughts and prayers" posts you will be able to send.
There will be no change until the ruling class feel this directly. Until then, they’ll offer nothing but platitudes
Any troubled person thinking of a shooting spree should aim higher and make a difference by taking out boardrooms and politicians. The only way change will occur is through their blood
A shooter turns up and starts blazing away at a Christian school? It’s almost as though thoughts and prayers aren’t really an effective deterrent against gun violence and mass shootings
When the Republicans practicing for the annual Democrat vs Republican softball game were shot at, and Steve Scalice was pretty badly injured - and not one Republican changed their position - there was no doubt in my mind that anything would ever cause them to abandon their NRA blood money checks.💰🤷🤬
Hot take. It's both gun laws, AND mental health issues. This "it's not this it's that" is reductive, and acting like this is a single issue problem. It's not video games or religion, but please stop acting like our absolute absence of mental health focus has nothing to do with it as well.
I'm not giving this troll in my comments any more shine. Look at my profile and body of posts before you make assumptions about me based on a post you didn't understand.
I'm convinced that America is one of the stupidest countries in the world because we have some how made ignorance a virtue. We are an anti-intellectualist society that embraces conspiracies, pseudo science and misinformation. Our patron saint is Forrest Gump. I weep for what we've become.
That goes down some dangerous roads. Access to education can be manipulated for racist reasons and has been used as such in the past. Although I think we are some of the dumbest bastards around, I wouldn't want to curtail our ability to express our stupidity.
I agree with what you're saying about racism, but flat earthers, moon landing deniers, 911 truthers, and vaccine deniers are to stupid to be in control. Maybe a little reverse racism is what we need, and not the imaginary kind the Proud Boys complain about.
Since the Madison school was run by an Evangelical church, Republicans won’t say prayer in school will fix it. Instead they’ll blame wokeness and claim the Left is responsible, just like the Evangelical Presbyterian school in Nashville.
We live in a world of factual information but there are still so many sheep 🐑 who still have the heard mentality and refuse to accept the reality that guns kill. Wake up fools. How many more children are you prepared to sacrifice?
Demand a National Gun Buyback scheme similar to what Australia did.
Your only way to save face is to claim that you made this with AI, haha. Why are you trying to be a left wing parody of a Trump supporter? It's baffling how you can be so xenophobic and anti-liberal.
Fucking eejits ,the UK banned guns 30 years ago after a cunt shot up a primary school,never been one since ,I don't accept the bullshit these pretend rambos bleat on about, fuck em all
Yes, but what people don't talk about is that subsequently the UK became worse than the setting of a Mad Max movie, under the constant assault of the, "outlaws who have all the guns". In fact, the UK no longer exists. RIP, Great Britain. You had a good run 😩
The sarcastic point being, none of that has happened, despite the fear mongering we have from the right wing who say stupid things like, "if guns are outlawed then only outlaws will have guns", in an attempt to frighten people away from supporting laws to make us safe.
The USA is the capitalists test subject, where nearly everything works for profit above all else. Yet, it somehow maintains this veil of taking care of its people. The population is managed through nationlist sentiment, and controlled propaganda, which is designed to keep the heat off the elite.
Lawmakers who take NRA money should be made to pay for every funeral for the dead. Full medical care to the survivors. Psych treatment for all victims & their families. FOR LIFE! It’s the NRA $$ that keeps Rs from legislating common sense laws.
Please help me understand why you and so many others are having so much trouble creating content that you lift it from Twitter and bring it here? It’s a low rent move since most came here to wash our hands with that digital wasteland and the post is not even original.
It’s so exhausting that Black people are considered criminals and yet white people are considered to have mental health issues, this 15-year-old was a terrorist……
And previously Britain and Australia, after the Dunblane massacre in Scotland in 96, and the Port Arthur mass shooting, I think the same year; both countries passed stringent gun control in response.
Both countries have reduced mass shootings to near nothing in comparison to the USA.
Gun related deaths probably means including suicides. I would expect that is correlated with the amount of guns. Hard to commit a suicide by a gun when you do not have access to gun.
You are incorrect. Just because you do not have to store it in a safe (as in a large metal box) does not mean you don't need to store it. I do not know rules for every state but CA pretty strictly defined
What? I explicitly said that US has wrong gun culture. I just think that owning gun is a right
Other countries have the mental illness and the violent TV, movies and video games -- all the usual excuses. It’s only the USA that suffers so many mass shootings.
No there is better health coverage in those areas, often free or at very little cost, as opposed to here where insurance takes sometimes over half your paycheck, if you're lucky enough to have a job to begin with. Health industry in the US= no$ screw you!
I do blame video games for billionaires. They're chasing the high score. Banks need to be more like the original video games. If your account goes over 999,999, the score resets to 0.
Adjusted for inflation, there have been billionaires throughout most of human history. The problem is not video games, it's social structures that reward greed.
You people never learn. Every statistic shows it's the access to guns. But do keep doing the same thing with the same results over and over and wonder why.
USA: It's a mental health issue.
WORLD: We have those. We don't have mass shootings.
USA: Then it's a video game issue.
WORLD: We have those. We don't have mass shootings.
USA: It's very complex.
WORLD: No, it's gun laws.
USA: Prayer in school?
WORLD: God, you're stupid.
Concerned parent?
The USA is like a lover who perpetually gaslights you.
He’s never going to change.
Take your kids and leave.
It’s far safer to bring up your kids elsewhere.
Pick one.
It IS a mental health issue! If there were no guns they would just find another way to hurt people! There's also the fact that most guns used in crime are obtained illegally! Or used illegally by people who aren't supposed to have them by law. STOP BLAMING GUNS!
One person says it's mental illness yet many Americans cannot afford healthcare. Another says it's the guns which are too easy to obtain. Either way, it's an American problem which goes back to one thing, money! Stop backing the NRA and start funding a free healthcare system.
I read somewhere recently that we should start calling them mass murders. When a CEO is shot and killed, it's a murder, not a shooting. Thought it was a good point.
Apparently they did the same in Australia after a mass shooting. Must be a total hellscape living in a place where, "only the outlaws have guns". How do you even survive in that post-apocalyptic nightmare where bad guys with guns are constantly committing crimes and killing everyone?
It’s difficult but it toughens us up. We don’t even give our kids bulletproof backpacks, it’s a battle for survival and they need to learn to outwit the bad guys. One way we’ve done this is by making it difficult for the bad guys to get guns
It is also a ‘Murcan culture problem. But in a country with more firearms than people, yeah, it also has to do with the guns and the people who fetishize them.
A lot of us cried for days, seeing the news stories. The fact that nothing changes and it keeps happening, kids keep being ripped apart and the GOP just keeps getting voted into congress and as president. This is what this country apparently wants.
yes, I thought SH would wake them up. I think only possible change would be if 'their' kids or 'their' loved ones were consistently at threat. Kind of like how celebrity diseases get attention. But US is in and heading to a more defined wealth(not race) apartheid society so won't happen.
Did you ever? Did you ever have that kind of problem? No. It's not gun control that did it for you. You never had the problem in the first place. You're arguing using the same logic used by homeopathy peddlers.
Can you please explain that bizarre analogy, M. @dgoldman.bsky.social? Homeopathic medicines are still medicines, albeit worthless ones; they are still intended to cure and thus have an actual, measurable curative effect (the placebo effect) and thus it's possible to sell them still to sick persons.
That is why homeopathic medicines still exist, M. @dgoldman.bsky.social: it's possible to do a trade in them, because at least they are not lethal and a few persons accidentally benefit from them.
Can you tell me why this mechanism applies to regulation of firearms?
Terrible that the parents of these kids attending that evangelical Christian school likely all supported the people who are against common sense gun laws.
It’s a yt conservative male problem in the US. I don’t see mass shoutings happening in Compton. Just grocery stores, schools and churches where no one is armed. Cowards
This latest one was at a Christian school, so I guess posting the 10 commandments and prayer in the classroom doesn't inspire people to make better choices?
As long as voters continue voting for Republican, we won’t have prosperity, safety from guns and now we won’t have safety with our food, transportation, an education and health department, weather science, NOTHING. He has billionaires and crooks dismantling everything good about our democracy.
Democracy is the reason why all of this is happening since your politicians can't agree on what's good for the nation and instead base their opinions on whatever institution is backing them at the moment
Gun control laws are no longer effectively enforceable, given that they can be 3D printed, barrel included. The systemic issues that drive people to the violent mindset that makes them reach for those guns, which all find their sources in capitalism, are what truly need to be resolved to fix this.
Totally false, just a basic, use of “all or nothing” fallacy.
Other countries have figured this out and reduced their numbers of gun homicide to a tiny vanishing fraction of USA by simply putting up strong enough bans. Of course a few incidents happen and no enforcement of anything is ever perfect.
Even if that were so the pol will does not exist in the USA for any sort of stable gun control. It makes no difference what can be replaced by 3DP when what you suggest is as likely as Zeus walking down from Olympus to pay off Greece's debt. Trying to ban Muslims from facing Mecca will work as well.
It is far worse than not perfect. It is fundamentally unsustainable as a result of a fundamental and foundational political dynamic within the USA. The next guy will always reverse progress. The two party system would have to be abolished for any sustainable progress to be made.
One look at Britain or Australia or the numerous other countries that have made guns rare and basically removed from the equation proves you wrong.
There’s nothing different politically about most of these, all capitalist, all have rightwing. They did it so can we.
And if it is a mental health issue, how about universal Healthcare or at least universal mental Healthcare and background checks to weed out people with a history of mental health issues...no?
The issue has been, will be, and is an inability to change.
When a mouse is found by a hawk, it doesn't sit and wait. It moves to somewhere safer. If its fur won't allow it, it'll turn a different colour. If it's someplace rocky, it'll learn to jump. If it's somewhere wooded, it'll learn to climb.
Are you a right wing troll? Or are you actually going to claim that cars should be outlawed since MANY more people die in car crashes than from gun violence? More people fatally cashed in my state than died from GV in all of the USA. 🤷♂️
plus i'd argue car safety could be better too if there were better road infrastructures for pedestrians, guns would kill less people if there was more legislation for how they're sold, and allowed to be used, ffs a woman shot her child trying to shoot a neighbor's dog because he was barking.
Ya I mean... considering the amount of issues cybertrucks have had already on the road its kind of a good example that actually ya, maybe there should be more regulation on vehicles too 🤔
Switzerland, Finland, Czech, Austria, and Germany are the top 5 EU countries which let citizens own guns. Germany and Austria allow citizens to keep guns in the home, and the Swiss let you BUY your SERVICE rifle after your service. That's a military grade weapon! It's a cultural problem in the US.
The US constitution has been amended several times; why can’t the second amendment be amended? From a European POV it is so old fashioned and unnecessary. We don’t have shootings in the UK - plenty of other issues but I don’t go around worrying I’m going to get shot!
Reposted. The issue is the NRA and the GOP who want the campaign funds. They are given by the NRA that is in my opinion everyone associated with the NRA capable of the murders and slaughters by guns.
You can add Australia, UK, Norway, & other similar countries. What do these countries have in common - strict gun laws & citizens who aren't living in fear of the next mass shooting.
…but those countries also have a helluva lot less stress & better mental health…
…because their federal governments cover their healthcare, education, parental leave, disability, etc in a way that makes America a fkn 3rd world nation in comparison!
US has a lower minimum wage, weaker OHS laws, & 2 weeks annual leave compared to minimum 4 weeks in other western countries.
To others, Americans are more concerned with their right to bear arms than their right to social safety nets & work rights that would benefit them.
Canadians didn't go from a thriving nation to absolute social dogshit within the span of like 3 decades. You people would stab up a school if you were in America's situation
Nah, they just have bombings (London), mass casualty vehicular homicide (Paris), (80 ppl in a shooting in Sweden), extra judicial criminal syndicates (Latin America, Eastern Europe) and number of war crimes (including a bunch of guns, but hell, there is so much more) (middle east, Africa)
Yeah, 600,000 deaths in the Tigray War, god knows how many in Sudan, Syria, and Myanmar. Urygurs in China, France has more then just vehicular homicide btw-
Just since we talked before, another swedish mass shooting, a german mass casualty event involving a car, and a HAND GRENADE attack in France. Mass events happen in gun control states as well. People find ways to kill.
With all the chaos in the US there haven't been many mass shootings there lately, have there?
Funny how your types are all about needing the 2nd amendment in order to have guns to stand up to tyrannical governments... until you have a tyrannical government. Then it seems you are happy as clams.
Also, Republican voter: it’s not the guns it’s mental health and pay no attention to the fact that the Republicans I vote for refuse to support mental healthcare.
FFS there are mentally ill people ALL over the fucking World but the US is the ONLY Nation that does NOTHING to ensure that its Children are not slaughtered at School..at Church..at the Grocery Store..at Festivals, etc. The rest of the civilized Nations have got it figured out.
I’ve had things pop up periodically in fb memories about the shootings. Nothing changes. And yet, the same people protecting the guns are also villainizing Luigi.
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Thank you for backing me up as to why these shootings are an issue! We’re the ONLY country where this happens. That’s a fact.
No child wants to die for your gun. You’re just a bad person.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/16/us/video/2024-saw-record-number-of-school-shootings?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Do you guys read any fucking facts? Like YOUR SOURCE said it too, dumbass.
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2024/01
All of us who’ve lost loved ones know your points of just “I don’t care. My guns!!!” because you all are shitty ass people who won’t use empathy.
Again. You won’t care until someone you know is dead. We know this. You’re a shit human.
Like I get your point. You think kids deserve to DIE, BLEED OUT, LOSE FRIENDS, and be traumatized for your guns. I get it. You’re a shit human
You guys simply don’t care because you haven’t been affected.
And it’s disgusting. Get some empathy. It’s not normal to be this unempathetic to CHILDREN being traumatized.
But you sure as shit did, bitch! 323 shootings happened. You denying it doesn’t bring them back you know that right? Doesn’t take their trauma away?
What do you do to help mental health? Nothing? Sit on your ass and talk about your guns?
You are aware of the long lasting mental health effects of being in a shooting right? The mental health you guys are constantly taking resources from?
Get triggered by facts? Go back to X bitch. No one here will choose your feelings over kids lives.
They’re real people. Your feelings are shit. No one cares what you want. You don’t care about DEAD KIDS why the fuck should I care what you want?
None of them would choose your gun over their life.
You’re just upset the facts show you guys as the disgusting monster freaks you are. Maybe change something.
Only us, idiots. Only us horrible fucking excuses of people let our kids die over guns. And then you all cry online that trauma is okay.
THOSE SHOOTINGS STILL HAPPENED IN A
Any troubled person thinking of a shooting spree should aim higher and make a difference by taking out boardrooms and politicians. The only way change will occur is through their blood
Apparently.
Demand a National Gun Buyback scheme similar to what Australia did.
Also objectively factual.
/s for sarcasm
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Blame it on MAGA's GOP, heritage foundation, SCOTUS, CEOs & others. Their interests is NRA donations. Bloods on their filthy rich hands.
RIP innocent families children
Both countries have reduced mass shootings to near nothing in comparison to the USA.
https://ritholtz.com/2017/10/gun-ownership-vs-gun-deaths/
Or the gun secretly gets out of the safe, loads itself and shoots the owner.
I kinda doubt that most people who own a gun have a safe.
And no. I was joking since you search for reasons why the US are not on the wrong path gun wise
What? I explicitly said that US has wrong gun culture. I just think that owning gun is a right
Death is EXTREMELY profitable & The money from killing us is too good for them to stop
They do not care about life ONLY MONEY
What’s different about the USA? The guns.
Or Executives sewing political discourse and hate speech to distract us from the real enemy.
Or the billionaires striping the working class of time for family bonding to boost their profits.
You get it.
Blame the Rich.
Tax The Rich.
USA: It's a mental health issue.
WORLD: We have those. We don't have mass shootings.
USA: Then it's a video game issue.
WORLD: We have those. We don't have mass shootings.
USA: It's very complex.
WORLD: No, it's gun laws.
USA: Prayer in school?
WORLD: God, you're stupid.
The USA is like a lover who perpetually gaslights you.
He’s never going to change.
Take your kids and leave.
It’s far safer to bring up your kids elsewhere.
Pick one.
WORLD: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
on speaker phone.
Don’t be a freak. Just be normal.
We heavily restricted guns.
But they're not all illegal - with the right licensing and if conditions are met, you can own an Uzi.
But the hoops you'd have to jump through ...
Also 'self defence' is not a legitimate reason to own a gun.
Not every country finds it necessary to arm them.
It's really not that complicated.
https://www.healthline.com/health/digestive-health/milk-of-magnesia-constipation
BTW, I bawled after Sandy Hook for an hour. I don't give a shit anymore, numb to it now. I'm a Canadian watching our crazy neighbours from afar.
unless they are DIRECTLY effected they will not get it
they knew SH was bad, so they ASSIGNED the INFORWARS moron to go take it DOWN into the mud
Can you tell me why this mechanism applies to regulation of firearms?
Moreover, homeopathy is argued based on the same flawed conflation of correlation vs causation.
Praise!
Other countries have figured this out and reduced their numbers of gun homicide to a tiny vanishing fraction of USA by simply putting up strong enough bans. Of course a few incidents happen and no enforcement of anything is ever perfect.
There’s nothing different politically about most of these, all capitalist, all have rightwing. They did it so can we.
But it's still Biden's America.
When a mouse is found by a hawk, it doesn't sit and wait. It moves to somewhere safer. If its fur won't allow it, it'll turn a different colour. If it's someplace rocky, it'll learn to jump. If it's somewhere wooded, it'll learn to climb.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-victims-in-the-united-states-by-fatalities-and-injuries/
https://wtsc.wa.gov/wtsc-2023-traffic-fatalities/#:~:text=Washington%20experienced%20810%20traffic%20deaths,not%20just%20a%20shocking%20statistic.
The Founders never intended to create an unregulated right to a gun.
“A fraud on the American public” said Chf Justice Burger about the idea that the 2nd Amendment gives an unfettered individual right to a gun.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/how-nra-rewrote-second-amendment#:~:text=%E2%80%9CA%20well%20regulated%20militia%2C%E2%80%9D,render%20military%20service%20in%20person.%E2%80%9D
Okay will you fund programs to help with...
"No."
…but those countries also have a helluva lot less stress & better mental health…
…because their federal governments cover their healthcare, education, parental leave, disability, etc in a way that makes America a fkn 3rd world nation in comparison!
To others, Americans are more concerned with their right to bear arms than their right to social safety nets & work rights that would benefit them.
is that even being an
'American' cannot be
regarded any longer
as so much a position
as it is a predicament.
Our cult of stupid is our lowest common denominator. It votes NO on sanity!
Let's #Resist 🙏💙⛅💕
Mass shootings in the US are very common. Hundreds every year.
What does that tell you that you need to compare the mass shooting epidemic in the US to wars and genocides?
Funny how your types are all about needing the 2nd amendment in order to have guns to stand up to tyrannical governments... until you have a tyrannical government. Then it seems you are happy as clams.
EVERYTHING IN AMERICA IS ABOUT $$$
GUN LOBBY has more $$$ than children
GET IT?
It's the FN GUNS!
They can be trusted to always send their thoughts and prayers and doing absolutely nothing.
If gunning down Kindergarteners didn't bring change, nothing ever will.
Every single member of the NRA should point directly at themselves and goodbye. So many more kids would live. But “what can we do?”
🤮🤮🤮