My favorite thing is watching videos about gaming not being fun anymore, in which some guy says "do you remember coming home from elementary school and playing Minecraft with your friends".
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Wow I'm old. I remember coming home from school and playing Marble Madness or Duck Hunt on the NES with my brother 🤣 which eventually turned into Final Fantasy VII and Tekken 3!
😂was reminiscing with wife yesterday about getting quarters from my Dad to play Pong at the bar while he hung out and boozed it up... Ahhh, the seventies! Kids! And we had to walk five miles uphill in the snow( both ways!) to get there.
Definitely. So much of the angry-gamer/angry-culture space is just people complaining that middle-of-the-road stuff constructed entirely for mass appeal is a bit bland and unremarkable. Why wouldn't it be?
I've only recently realized the range of genres I enjoy is actually very broad compared to the average person, and also twitch has a "variety streamer" category which seems to be a niche thing, seemingly being what I always considered to be playing a normal number of games
I remember coming home from elementary school and playing “Real Sports Football” on the Atari 2600. I remember when the PowerPad was the new it thing for the NES. I remember Pitfall. I remember Colecovision. I remember the PowerGlove.
ROFL - both games that are sitting in my backlog. They're still "new" enough that I haven't played either of them yet... I'll do another run of Paradroid instead - that's my old-school game.
It's always fun watching the assumed generation of gaming content change.
But also the cool thing is you still can play Minecraft with friends pretty easily, unlike my afterschool stuff which people are less likely to be playing now.
"I remember having free food everyday, no bills, nearly limitless free time, and seeing familiar faces at school everyday—what happened in 20yrs that changed that!?"
I remember the original forum post where Notch showed off screenshots. My parents neighbour kids went wild when they saw me playing what they thought was a basic sky island game, until I showed them it was a 'holodeck' on a massive starship I'd built in a modded game. Good times...
When I was in university around 2017 I used to work at an after school activity center and the kids were amazed that I knew about Minecraft, which I of course had played all the way back in 2009, when most of them were literal babies.
What's funnier is seeing kids react when I tell them I've played Minecraft on mobile since 2013. No sprinting, no skins, no hostile mob spawn eggs, no nether, no end, no villagers, no redstone...
I currently work as a teacher, and the kids are always amazed that I know what Minecraft is, let alone mechanics, mob names, block types etc.
What they don't know is that I only ever play on Beta 1.7.3. I'm still mad at the Adventure update even now lmao
This happens with my friend's younger brother (they were born like 14 years apart) and it's always so funny to me, like yes, I remember when minecraft had like 20 types of block
Christ I remember playing in alpha, when it was basically creative, but the procedurally generated world hasn't really been added yet. So it was just a huge sandbox
EXACTLY! I remember posting the ugliest brick house ever on Facebook like “just built my first house!” and then when they invented STAIRS I just knew that’d be a game changer for my roofs 😂 I thought that was peak gaming at the time !!
I am still a little annoyed by beds. They’re a little too easy to make, often removing spending the first night in a hole or hastily created shack while zombies surround you.
These videos annoy me so much they just unnecessarily spread negativity across the entire gaming industry and 90% of these people play the same thing every day like that’s not boredom that’s depression homie
When you’re a kid you don’t have any expectations. You just play the game and enjoy the experience as it’s given to you. People who say gaming isn’t fun anymore just want the impossible experience of reliving the past
Exaxtly. And that's when you start to discover all the amazing indie games out there that cater to so many different audiences! Or you become aggrieved and insist everyone cater specifically to your wants.
I was in uni when the last beta versions were out. And at 40, we have a group of it engineers with server racks in their closets, and our own Minecraft server running at all times. Every six months or so we get that itch and run a new mod pack in.
And when you tell them to play some older games like Chrono trigger, they go " yeah. I may give this a try, but I don't know". Many people grew up used to the concept of games being either sandbox, or competitive. My younger cousins complain when a game have "movie"( history cutscenes)
They wanna play it, not see the story and progress. I also find it very weird when they don't want to try new games because their favorite streamer haven't played it. They say "I don't know how to play this 😢" and when I tell them to learn it by Playing, they start looking on YouTube for how to play
I'm am of a like mind with alot of respondents when I say expand your horizons, buds. Gaming libraries today are expansive, yet they stick to the same 2-3 AAA franchises, and then get bummed that they aren't the same anymore. Again, maybe time to expand your horizons some, kids.
One can only hope, friend. But, I'm a bit pessimistic on that front. I'm a firm believer, however, that gradual introduction into other genres works for some gamers. I'm trying this with my co-worker. He's 28, plays COD and 2K. I introduced him to The Outer Worlds a week ago. He likes it so far.
Loved that computer. That computer and the D&D Gold Box games started it all for me. I teach computer science and tell my students about what the 64 meant and how we used boot disks to start out computers without hard drives.
It’s how I learned to read! Mom wrote the DOS loading instructions on the disks and said I had to learn to read them to change the games! I learned!! And all the games were educational!!
That's awesome! I remember my dad got these computer magazines that came with code in the back for a game you could type in. My brothers' and I would spend hours meticulously typing in every line.
I saw some video about Nier describe it as one of those games you have to finish cause you’re a kid and you won’t get another game until Christmas… I was 21 when Nier came out I can’t relate even a little?
"I used to come home every day after school and play with the boys for hours but now we all have jobs and have left town and I haven't seen most of them in years so when I play cod these days I just queue in random lobbies. This is what the woke took from you."
Recently was talking to a woman who works for Mojang and I told her my 7yo son loves Minecraft and she’s like “Oh cool! I also loved Minecraft when I was 7” and I was like “Cool cool, that game came out when I was 24 and in grad school” and then I promptly dissolved into dust
There was a game that me and another nerd played on our middle school Apple IIs that was a precursor to Bards Tale, but where the walls, rooms and icons were letters and numbers. For the life of me I can't remember the name. Amber monitors . . . Wow. LOL
I think the concept of getting old escapes a lot of people.
Which is why nostalgia is so great. Is CTR a great Kart racer? Yes. BUT the remake pulling me back to the time me and a friend sat there besting all those Time Trails - that's more enjoyable than the game itself.
I have a strange connection to nostalgia, because I don't feel it particularly strongly, or at least not in ways that others seem to feel it. I like to play old 90s games, but it's rarely because I feel nostalgia for them or the experiences tied to them. I am a very here and now kind of gal.
I wouldn't call it sad, I mean I don't feel bad about it at all. I still have fond memories, but I wouldn't say I am nostalgic for a time long since past. I don't relate to the strong feelings people express about it is all. I also surround myself with old stuff all the time.
Maybe it's an age thing. But having something remind you of a time you’ve forgotten is just - nice. Like Samba de Amigo will bring back memories of a friend who sadly passed. And they're not memories I can freely tap into.
I was born in 1991, so I am over 30 at this point. I probably just haven't forgotten the past and simply don't dwell on it. I mostly play old video games, I surround myself with the past.
I'll say as an indie dev , that in AAA there's a major lack of originality i will give in on that but it's true most of the time it's just nostalgia for them and they wanna be a teenager again , but I mean space marine 2 , black myth wukong , cult of the lamb , great games from 2024
They should play more old games/indie games really. Cleanse the palette. Experience something truly different. And yeah, nostalgia for a time where you had no real responsibilities and didn't know about politics is alluring, but dangerous.
most likely just people who don't realise that they miss being a kid, as a adult, even when a game is so good it makes me forget my worries. The stress of life have set a deep mark in my bones and will continue to grow deeper, but its alright because I can buy my own snacks whenever I want 😌
I remember my family’s old beat up computer would randomly shut down while I was playing the alpha build, so I’d have to start all over every time. Miss that unironically.
I didn't have an Xbox at the time. I did play it a bit on PC with a friend. We had some fun get togethers where we played Mario Party and Turok 2 though. Funnily enough I also remember us playing Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 a lot.
Custom games in Halo 2 and 3 were one of the biggest flashpoints for me and my friends, though we also quite often just sat around riffing while someone played single player or passed the controller around. I recall final fantasy 12 we would at up games and just let it play against Yiazmet.
kinda makes me scratch my head. they talk about problems with modern gaming but most of the stuff they talk about traces back to the 7th gen, where gaming supposedly peaked for them
"the year is 2011. you're 10 years old. you're watching ray william johnson. your mom just ordered pizza and you're installing your brand new copy of skyrim on your xbox 360. life doesn't get better than this. kids these days would never understand!!"
I do find it very funny how in the time I’ve been following gamer discourse on the internet I’ve seen the fabled “golden age” before everything went wrong move forward about 10-15 years.
Oh I'm sure it is, know lots of friends that love it! I'm just a very goal driven person so I can sometimes find more directionless games hard to play like minecraft.
I can barely last an hour playing it, because it makes me wish I was playing any of the vastly superior sandbox games that came out since. The core gameplay loop is just uninteresting to me.
To be fair I never tried modding it, but if a game needs mods to be good, it probably isn't actually good.
Gaming is still a blast.
Don't ever be afraid to move on from popular games if they don't click for you or if your stuck in a multiplayer loop, maybe it's not the games..try single player and recharge that social battery.
I also like people complaining that a specific game doesn't have enough content and they preface it with "don't get me wrong, I love the game, I mean I have 1200 hours of playtime..."
I cannot even remember the game I rushed home to play with my friends.. gaming is still my favorite relaxing time though, but my taste has changed a lot. I liked platformers as a kid, now I play complex building games, survival crafters and strategy games. Occasional RPG. If you're bored its on you
I wouldn't say that I am complaining about the youth. They're pretty great to be honest. We all have things to learn as we grow up, it's part of it. We simply have different experiences and there's a fun disconnect there.
It's maybe in my top 3 most annoying recycled conversation on the Internet. A bunch of people not being able to grapple with the fact that they aren't 9 years old anymore or they should maybe play something other than the yearly recycled garbage game
I firmly believe most people have a sunk-cost fallacy with video games, where they feel that because they've played so much since they are a kid they can't stop playing, despite not wanting to. And they attribute it to games nowadays being bad.
Me too. I used to play with friends, and it was adrenaline filled epic battles and journeys, which was a thrilling ride. Now I play solo in creative to chill out and explore the intricate mechanics of building difficult villages and seeing how the villagers interact with my work. There's so much!
Then they go onto talk only about Call of Duty, 2K or GTA, like yeah no wonder you find gaming not fun, you're not expanding past the Triple A big studio games
Not only perception of fun changes because of brain development, but also because we leave in a very faster, full of catalogue options and very intolerant to discomfort. There is an opportunity in videogames to slow down and retrieve space for discomfort. remembering no exp is good all the time.
I also think that gaming was harder than now made it more sweet for all of us. There wasnt any fast consuming culture. We consumed every game to the fullest and it made it much more fun.
I'm 45 and still love gaming as much as I did as a kid. 😂 Maybe they mean they can't be bothered finding a new game or console they like 🎮
Maybe I never grew up much. I'm cool with that lol
Yes. I have a few years on you, and I can say definitively, growing up is overrated. Some folks think hating everything new makes them uberchic or something. Social Media Personality Disorder. Bah. Life's too short. More fun to broaden that bandwidth and enjoy all the things without shame.
I am about the same age and still play games also. I find the key is to play what you enjoy and don't worry about what's popular. Still play Skyrim after all this time.
One thing I do miss though are the couch co-op games. There are very few of them now.
My best friend comes round regularly and I have to have a 2nd setup just so we can play together online, in the same room!
Most of them had one hobby and never really grew past that. Now gaming has changed (in some ways for the better and some not) and they can’t handle it. Like bro read a book, watch a tv show, get into a physical sport. I promise you won’t be as bored of gaming anymore.
I would say certain genres have changed quite a bit, like MMOs. But a lot of that change has been driven by the communities of those genres. Plus, the gaming community itself has changed. Data mining, FOMO, the speed of gameplay. It's wildly different compared to 20 years ago.
Yes. They often fail to understand that they are adults now and that they've changed. Often times they are also stuck just playing the same franchises and AAA releases, which yeah... kind of need to expand your tastes a bit and go out of that comfort zone.
I must admit that things DID change and if you got into gaming because of a certain reason or a certain kind of experience and this exact experience just isn't there anymore because trends tend to change, well of course you feel betrayed.
Came here to say just this =w=)b
Games have been getting BETTER, not worse imo. We just ran out of childlike wonder and freetime to enjoy them the same way we used to. Sadly, it’s the same with a lot of forms of entertainment i think
My 17 has been ranting about the games not being as fun
To be fair, he loves the older games and is 🤬 we don't have a PS1 to play my collection
My games are region blocked to the states or Japan and we're in France
I did have a time where I wasn’t really into gaming, but I eventually realized my taste had changed and I was into different types of games. A lot of people seem to want to still like the things they’ve always liked rather than change and grow
I remember coming home from elementary school and playing Pong with my friends. Secondary school it was Space Invaders, if we were lucky, or that game with tanks on the Atari 2600.
I reckon it's as simple as people not realising that it took less for games to stimulate their brain when it was developing.
Like of course you could play minecraft for hours when you couldn't process everything worth doing in a fraction of the time.
Back in my child-youth, Craneno and I would trek home from school as it was just under 2 miles. Before he hopped the ditch back to his place, he'd stick around and we'd play Bushido Blade. Only, it's very easy to die in Bushido Blade, so we'd play 'first to 25', what-have-you. Lots of Murder, that.
Anyforhow, when Hatsune Miku got her notches in me and I played Minecraft, I never did that with friends. Spent about a week making a cool floating set of islands illuminated by lava flows. Showed a lady I was dating at the time and she marveled that I'd waste so much time on something like this.
Needless to say, we didn't stay together. I mean, it wasn't her open disparagement of how I chose to enjoy my free time--turned out she was cheating big time on her husband. Only sussed that out thanks to a comical misunderstanding. Plus she didn't ever play Bushido Blade with me.
I remember getting the PS1 by accident bc my parents saw Digimon and thought it was Pokemon (I was obsessed with pkmn) so they bought anything that remotely looked like Pokemon
saw a video where someone had absolutely nothing good to say about recent fortnite chapters, like NOTHING. all of his arguments were summed up to “new bad, old good, also stop telling me to go play a different game, i don’t wanna”
go outside then? you’re not 16 anymore 😭
Le sigh... I could go on and on about this topic. But instead I play games and record it to show how absoluty crappy they are and then publish in on yt XD honestly big gaming companies are killing the fun
Sadly I can only play mobile games. Mostly due to sight(legally blind but still sighted) and partly because we have a old pc. Would likely never see anything as good as scorched earth with my limitations :)
So, like, kids who were born around the millennium? Ouch. I remember coming home from elementary school and playing on my friend’s Atari 2600. TMNT on the NES was my high school nemesis. Gaming is as fun as you make it. Always has been.
You always have to broaden the horizons too. A lot of these guys seem to talk about long running franchises that pumped out games once a year, and how by the 13th installment it felt stale. And yeah, you gotta play something else dude. Go beyond. Go out of your comfort zone!
My dad used to help me with the dam level in TMNT when I was like 6 or 7 and the crazy bastard could consistently beat it! I’ve tried to explain to him that this is a legitimate feat, but he seems to believe I’m still looking at it with a child’s eyes, like no, everyone hates that.
When I was in primary school I would occassionally game on the Sega Mega Drive we had at home, and eventually I'd play the original Age of Empires on our family pc. I was 15 (in 2006) when I bought my own first pc and properly started gaming.
That’s so real. I was cheeky and my flatmates had a tendency to wreck stuff so I bought a shitty but big tv for like £20 and played through the entirety of Persona 4 on it lmfao
They complain Minecraft isn't getting enough updates and it makes me wonder if they've ever played a game that doesn't years of support and content updates.
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I play and get what grabs my interest at the time and it has worked out so much better.
and just light it up 🔥
But also the cool thing is you still can play Minecraft with friends pretty easily, unlike my afterschool stuff which people are less likely to be playing now.
What they don't know is that I only ever play on Beta 1.7.3. I'm still mad at the Adventure update even now lmao
The games aren't gonna change their audience just because you've aged a few years and you need to come to terms with that.
I know which one leads to fulfillment for me!
My favorite computer game in elementary school might have been Tapper. At least until we got the original Prince of Persia.
Just yesterday the largest and some of the rarest ships in EVE were destroyed
I'm 54 and mostly a PC gamer. Currently, I'm into Starfield. I do NOT pine for the days of Pong and Duck Hunt! 🤣🤣🤣
If we're talking modern PC, Alpha Centauri is one of the earliest I put any amount of time into. 😁
Gosh I think the first PC game with graphics I played was maybe Ultima II.
Cheers old man 🥂
Which is why nostalgia is so great. Is CTR a great Kart racer? Yes. BUT the remake pulling me back to the time me and a friend sat there besting all those Time Trails - that's more enjoyable than the game itself.
I love retro games. Like Wacky Races (NES) is fantastic and I have no nostalgia to it.
But like an old book, an old game is connected to so many memories.
Like, bro. You've barely even lived if Minecraft was your childhood game, lol
To be fair I never tried modding it, but if a game needs mods to be good, it probably isn't actually good.
Don't ever be afraid to move on from popular games if they don't click for you or if your stuck in a multiplayer loop, maybe it's not the games..try single player and recharge that social battery.
NES to Playstation to PS2 to Xbox.. picked up a SNES in there as a lark.
'Course, you see the same level of dooming in tabletop wargaming and TTRPGs.
Like it's an identifier.
Maybe I never grew up much. I'm cool with that lol
Or as my wife put it, the freedom to say 'I don't give a f__k' when it comes to trends and popular opinion.
Invisible to demographers, free to express without shame.
I still load up Unreal Tournament 2004 regularly 😂
My best friend comes round regularly and I have to have a 2nd setup just so we can play together online, in the same room!
But yeah, please try playing something else.
They will **never** realize.
Games have been getting BETTER, not worse imo. We just ran out of childlike wonder and freetime to enjoy them the same way we used to. Sadly, it’s the same with a lot of forms of entertainment i think
I still manage to find games I like all these decades later. Games haven't gotten stale, but some gamers sure have.
To be fair, he loves the older games and is 🤬 we don't have a PS1 to play my collection
My games are region blocked to the states or Japan and we're in France
Like of course you could play minecraft for hours when you couldn't process everything worth doing in a fraction of the time.
the 100 unplayed games in my steam library:
god forbid if a main character of a game is girl.
go outside then? you’re not 16 anymore 😭
I'd agree, though.. there's definitely a point where too much money is involved.. much like every other medium.
Not a lot of accessibility options, though, so I hear you.
why did mojang do this
He has not since been good at any other video games
That all makes me feel soooo old. 😂
I remember coming home from school in 1988 and getting a whole 45 minutes to play MB3 because more would destroy my eyes 😄
Taking over one of the TVs in the dorm lobby so we could all take turns playing Final Fantasy VII (so we could grind without getting bored).
We were, though, once the girls in the group sweet-talked us into crossing campus to eat at the cafeteria.
And acting as living windbreaks so they didn't get the worst of it.