Elon crashing out over immigration after supporting an anti-immigration ticket (as an immigrant) and him and Vivek telling white Americans they're too mediocre to work at their companies is wildly entertaining.
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Even Trump is now "well if immigrants get 2 or 4 year degrees they should get a visa." I'm sure part of the base is like "Hey! I thought we agreed higher ed was for losers!"
Higher education in red states is shunned and replaced by the promotion of blue-collar work. Is it because "mediocrity" is unconsciously the norm which makes higher education seem unobtainable?
This sounds good for the people. First ones that need to hear this are the legacy kids, but I have a feeling when he says "special" hiring. Practices he's talking about other minorities🙄😒
Unpopular opinion here. He's not completely wrong. However, much of this was caused by the trumpery party. They're mostly the ones who cut education which led to the current student loans crisis and promoted anti-intellectualism
Taking it to the next step - and exactly where they are going right now - they cut education spending because they can't profit from it. Therefore they want to import educated people from other countries to let THEM foot the education bill. Profit without the cost.
I get it. He was saying bars but they only care about Indian and white immigrants and Elon I found was working as an illegal immigrant himself when he came to the USA.
As wildly off-base as this all is, the point he’s trying to make is hilarious in the face of the GOP creating and revering this “culture” to keep themselves in power. They elected the dumb popular guy. That’s why anyone is even listening to them right now. Wtaf.
Trump's base is full of those jocks who were revered over the "nerds" in high school... but peaked in high school. It's why they mad now! Trump is president bc they want to go back to being centered for nothing other than mediocrity. Has he even met these ppl?
Naima, you absolutely nailed it all in a nutshell right here. That's exactly who I see around me and in my hometown. They want to be lauded for just showing up again. "Glory Days" by Springsteen that went darker.
And that's the self-same reason they voted for trump. "Guy I'd like to have a beer with" has been peeled back to its essence: "He's a mediocre white guy who doesn't seem smarter than me." Elevating self-satisfied immigrants is an act of aggression to these people.
I think that might be the initial attraction but the fanaticism comes from the idea that "I could do that too! I could be POTUS with a trophy wife!" Ofc Trump isn't going to pay for their trophy wives and if these morons were really all marines, the USMC would accidentally invade Indonesia.
Vivek, like other Indians, somehow believe they can buy whiteness. He’s now realizing whites don’t care how much money you have - if you’re not white, you’re still just a *insert applicable racial slur*
That’s why they played themselves for not aligning with black Americans.
Now somebody needs to send this message to the Arabs and Muslims in Dearborn… they got play post-9/11, post Trumps 1st term, and now post election 2014. Their desire to be white blinds them to the reality of racism in America.
Also, I hate to agree with one of Vivek’s points (it makes me cringe) but he’s right about our culture of mediocrity. When i graduated high school, i really thought i was entering a world of adults and merit -but no, fucking weak mediocrity all throughout my 30yrs in the workforce
Sure sounds like he watches a *lot* of sitcoms for someone who hates television and thinks they are a cause of mediocrity.
Or he was a nerd in high school and his entire career is some slow roll vengeance trope directed at a girl kid who turned him down for the dance in favor of an athlete.
He is right & is preaching to the very crowd he is putting down
IF Vivek/Elon said “we will cut waste but invest in competitive public ed; make college more affordable; offer more federal academic scholarships; make colleges match academic investment to athletic..” I would believe “America First”
One thing puzzled me when I saw American movies. About how the nerdy kids were kind of looked down upon. In India they are revered. Kids who are out partying & playing sports not so much. I really think there should be a balance.
Some of what he says is true, but the core problem is actually the Educator Fandom of Rotten Curriculum Cult, which causes the worst reading outcomes instead of using reading science that teaches 95% of kids to read well.
This means that CEOs of said publishers r the root cause but he & 13 yr/o e boy wants 2 shut down the FTC so they can't be held accountable.
All predicted in Yarington's 1978 book, The Great American Reading Machine.
Right. Like Vivek & e-boy would have shut the defendents in the above suit down
I can’t tell what’s funnier: Vivek saying the same thing JD said in that book, and finding out how much racism doesn’t allow it from him vs. Trump / JD not even coming to his defense as it all unfolds vs. MAGA Indians surprised at the hate coming from white MAGA (I think it’s the third one)
They assumed that aligning with Trump in the US would give them the same privileges and support as aligning with Modi in India, because they’re the “good kind” of non-white immigrant
This + being among the richest of the immigrants gives an extremely false sense of security to many Indians in America. And Vivek just put a target on all our backs bc of it
That does make sense. It’s sad too. Maybe they aren’t cognizant of the harm these type of actions do to all people of color. Or maybe they are aware but just don’t care as long as they’re in a better position - privileged like whites - as you said.
MAGA have always been brawn over brain. Vivek's rambling tweet just insulted half the Republican voter base and Elon Musk/Trump are suddenly backtracking over H1B immigration....
MAGA has gone GAGA !
It’s kinda bizarre to tell Americans to revere the intelligent/educated when he’s part of the party that is trying to abolish the department of education. I hope MAGA eats him alive.
It really makes no sense that athletes are paid millions to play a sport and teachers are paid peanuts and expected to pay for school supplies out of those peanuts.
When I read “hang out at the mall” I laughed. Vivek doesn’t keep up with American culture, whatever American culture means. We’re a smorgasbord of cultures.
His idea of American culture is frozen in his personal HS experience.He is projecting his annoyance at his parents for being harsh on him & his feelings of embarrassment for "not fitting in" in racist American culture.
A lot of what he said is 100% true, but what he is attacking is white culture.
The best part about this whole rant is that American society does coddle mediocrity and has done so for decades. But he still misses the point. The rich have coddled mediocrity to make (white) people happy while providing them with less. Now they want more and the rich don't intend to break bread.
Vivek thought he was different because he's wealthy, so he's like the white people in charge will think of me as legitimate but he forgot that they don't care no matter how wealthy he is, they see him as less than because he's not white.
Ya know what would fix this? Taxing billionaires appropriately & using the money to fund universal PK, public education & universities, & training programs.
This is a ‘revenge of the nerds’ sequel I did not see coming.🤭 The self-deluding, racist immigrant side plot is a good addition to the maga implosion. I’m here for it all.
They want to have their Sputnik moment but they forget that the Sovet Union (im not a fan of it) lifted millions out of abject poverty. Yuri Gagarin for example was born in the village and became an astronaut.
Alas, Vivek does have somewhat of a valid point. A culture that celebrated sports and hates the nerds is a culture in trouble. However, they want to destroy the DOE. Square this hole.
He also could've voted for the culture he's heralding by voting for Kamala Harris, the candidate of Indian heritage, but that was probably too on the nose for him 🙃
If he wanted to build a culture that celebrates nerds maybe he shouldn’t have thrown in with the party of mediocre white men with grievances about no longer automatically being top of the heap once their high school football careers were over
It makes sense, White people still make up around 66% of the population end of the day if you can rally enough of them you can win, so you won't be able to make waves w/ the Dem party.
That’s the irony here. The party that Vivek and Elon are aligned with is the party that has relentlessly attacked, weakened, impoverished, and ruined public education—and which is intent on abolishing the department of Ed.
Lol somebody forgot they were brown. Credit for pushing the Indian agenda tho. For america, Kanye said it best (before he was kray " drug dealer buy jordans, crack head buy crack and the white man get paid outta all of that". They not just gonna be like "yeahhh let's change guys" smh
MAGA is flawed. Trump and Musk's objectives change one week to the next. Now immigrants with a degree can stay. Both plunder US subsidies for personal wealth and unelected Musk decides US policy.
Republicans are just waking up to what they've done.
#America #MAGA
Another way to drive a wedge between the rich and the masses... now we won't even work in their castles. "Domestics" will all be foreign born coding.serfs dependent on those who can send them back.
The funniest thing of course is all the idiot blue checks fighting over visas on their made-in-China phones and computers while hiding their male pattern baldness under made-in-China maga caps 😂
Two self-important characters can rarely occupy the same space for long. I'm sure Donald is pissed that Elon is sucking all the oxygen out of the room.
lol😂😂😂 yes,very entertaining. Dumb magas don’t understand that those rich billionaire exploiters despise them,think they’re stupid and just manipulate their dumb racist tendencies to get themselves in power,they care nothing about them whatsoever,view most of them as white trash. Idiots.
He wants to pay experienced engineers $70k. For a junkie to mumble in my ear at 3am? Entry-level engineers in 1984 were making six figures in today's $.
This is a weird sitcom we’re watching play out. Like a season where the writers don’t know what to son with all the main characters, so they’re all pursuing weird story lines that don’t make sense except in the whole.
He is *much* more dangerous than Trump, who, I guess, hardly seems to understand what is going on. Trump want to conduct to orchestra and play president, but Musk is an authentic, evil, fascist force.
While we're on the subject of mediocrity, this is how Malcolm Nance describes Kash Patel:
"Kash Patel is incompetent, an utter moron. He used his position under General Michael Flynn, then at the House and Senate to reveal classified information throughout the Trump/Russia scandal."
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"He (Kash Patel) is likely the person that gave those TS/SCI documents to Trump. Patel HAD to be appointed to his positions because he didn't qualify for any of them."
"There's no merit in him."
Malcolm Nance alleges that Kash Patel gave TS/SCI documents to Trump. If Malcolm is right, Patel's nomination as FBI Director was because he'd have access to every piece of evidence against Trump...including names of witnesses and agents involved in the search for those documents at Mar-a-Lago.
Sometimes an unexpected event or a poor choice of words expose the true motives of opportunists.
Elon and Vivek are so full of themselves they didn't care that their anti-American prejudice wouldn't be well received.
Or perhaps they thought MAGAts were too stupid to comprehend what they meant.
JD Vance and Trump intentionally stoked animosity towards Haitian immigrants with lies that they ate cats and dogs.
The unintended consequence of Vivek's boasts is that now Indians will be subjected to the same threats and harassment as Haitians.
As the sayings goes, sadly karma is a beyotch.
So, Elon's low opinion of Americans wasn't reserved for just Black people. He thinks MAGAts are just as unqualified and worthy of employment too.
Why are MAGAts so shocked when the oligarchs express how they really real about them? I guess they forgot the directive given to campaign ad agencies.
Republican consulting firm, Jamestown Associates, sent out a casting call to a talent agency for a 2008 campaign ad. Under "wardrobe," it said, "We are going for a ‘HICKY’ Blue Collar look. These characters are from West Virginia so think coal miner/trucker looks." GOP voters were insulted.
/NPR
Yeah, it's quite entertaining. In June 2024, Trump, at a rally of MAGA, said, "I don't care about you, I only want your vote." It was defended as a joke. I wonder why they aren't laughing now? 🤣 Vivek & Musk telling MAGA Americans you just aren't good enough. We need immigrants.
Completely forgetting that they are immigrants themselves. I was born in the UK, it’s always hilarious to me just how “native” white Americans think they are.
And it's more war ! Elon Musk's tweets lack politeness and grace. A typical tweet from a mega-rich bully living in a "Yes Sir' bubble, used to getting his own way on everything.
#Musk #Immigration
The pouting billionaire is on his “take a step back and fuck yourself” rant again. He is a H1B migrant using his billions to take the jobs of American workers and influence the presidency. I dread to think the amount of hidden dirty dealings. Musk is a liability.
#Musk #POTUS #Wealth #StopMusk
Just want to make sure I got this right. Elon is saying that these "great American companies" were actually built on the backs of people who were brought here expressly for their labor. AND that is bs to now deny the impact and contributions of said labor force?
Typical narcissist threatening into the vaporsphere…
Makes you wonder what they’re trying to distract the undereducated from…
He and the orange felon deserve each other.
It's WILD that the Right venerated these guys because they thought they were the champions of White Supremacy, only to find out that they prize Wealth Supremacy over that and are just Mask-Off calling them dumb rubes, and now none of them know what to believe in any more.
They’re all a bunch of sad losers that peaked in high school and Trump gave them that jock/ prom king feeling again. It’s nothing more than that. With positive strong leadership we could get these stuck losers out of the muck, but sadly, America is far too dumb to realize it.
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Let them eat themselves, I’m glad I nuked my account on Mordor.
There's so much to unpack here.
That’s why they played themselves for not aligning with black Americans.
Also, I hate to agree with one of Vivek’s points (it makes me cringe) but he’s right about our culture of mediocrity. When i graduated high school, i really thought i was entering a world of adults and merit -but no, fucking weak mediocrity all throughout my 30yrs in the workforce
What is "this" here? What...actually happened?
Or he was a nerd in high school and his entire career is some slow roll vengeance trope directed at a girl kid who turned him down for the dance in favor of an athlete.
IF Vivek/Elon said “we will cut waste but invest in competitive public ed; make college more affordable; offer more federal academic scholarships; make colleges match academic investment to athletic..” I would believe “America First”
https://www.apmreports.org/story/2024/12/04/lawsuit-calls-heinemann-reading-curriculum-deceptive-defective
All predicted in Yarington's 1978 book, The Great American Reading Machine.
Right. Like Vivek & e-boy would have shut the defendents in the above suit down
#FAFO
MAGA has gone GAGA !
Kids: Hang out at the what?
A lot of what he said is 100% true, but what he is attacking is white culture.
It's a psychological horror film not a blueprint for life???
Ugh oh, MAGA don’t like to wake up and be “woke” about anything particularly if it involves books and math.
They dug themselves deep into their own graves.
Republicans are just waking up to what they've done.
#America #MAGA
The tech bros are using Chinese/Russian/indian code writers and are in involved in critical infrastructure projects throughout the United States.
Can anyone say espionage?
Another way to drive a wedge between the rich and the masses... now we won't even work in their castles. "Domestics" will all be foreign born coding.serfs dependent on those who can send them back.
Lordy that lot is stupid😅
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/high-tech-hysteria/
https://www.epi.org/publication/h-1b-visas-and-prevailing-wage-levels/
F that.
"Kash Patel is incompetent, an utter moron. He used his position under General Michael Flynn, then at the House and Senate to reveal classified information throughout the Trump/Russia scandal."
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"There's no merit in him."
/Malcolm Nance
How Kash Patel’s years as a government lawyer fueled his disdain for Washington elites.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/09/politics/kash-patel-government-lawyer-fbi/index.html
Elon and Vivek are so full of themselves they didn't care that their anti-American prejudice wouldn't be well received.
Or perhaps they thought MAGAts were too stupid to comprehend what they meant.
The unintended consequence of Vivek's boasts is that now Indians will be subjected to the same threats and harassment as Haitians.
As the sayings goes, sadly karma is a beyotch.
Why are MAGAts so shocked when the oligarchs express how they really real about them? I guess they forgot the directive given to campaign ad agencies.
Republican consulting firm, Jamestown Associates, sent out a casting call to a talent agency for a 2008 campaign ad. Under "wardrobe," it said, "We are going for a ‘HICKY’ Blue Collar look. These characters are from West Virginia so think coal miner/trucker looks." GOP voters were insulted.
/NPR
• Jeans
• Work boots
• Flannel shirt
• Denim shirt
• Dickie's type jacket with t-shirt underneath
• Down filled vest
• John Deer hats ( preferably beat up)
• Trucker hats ( preferably beat up)
• No Thin Stripes
Humiliated, the NRSC pulled the ad. https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2010/10/08/130435173/-whore-and-hicky-how-a-poor-choice-of-words-can-cost-you-the-election
#Musk #Immigration
#Musk #POTUS #Wealth #StopMusk
I'm gonna keep watching for the other maga-idiots' opinions.
It's funny as hell & I am here for it. He's basically correct but his assessment is so incredibly one dimensional because he is, not that smart.
Makes you wonder what they’re trying to distract the undereducated from…
He and the orange felon deserve each other.