The “so-called collapse” between Europe/US is caused by Russian money pouring into the pockets of Republicans, plutocrats and oligarchs. Rank and file Americans who have had the privilege of visiting Europe hold it in the highest regard.
Winning the info war for sure. Although, it is hard not to believe that US sycophants are not being paid. Russia is losing the real war in Ukraine--kind of a problem for them.
Shouldn't be too much of a problem as Donny Diapers has just sacked a load of nuclear specialists because he didn't realise what they did.
They'll probably be able to help us out.
JD Vance is noone to come and BABLE NONSENSE BUT FAR RIGHT FASCIST PROPOGANDA TO HIDE NAZISM BEHIND in the middle of Europe where MILLIONS KILLED BY nazi fascism he tries to present as Democracy! He&his NONSENSE represent NO 'USA' WHO SET NATO IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY TO ELIMINATE 'WHAT' HE BABLES!!
With any luck, it will not be a collapse, but an unavoidable hiatus. As soon as the orange anus is either immobilized or out of office, or the Democrats take over Congress, we will put things back together. If we can.
Vance isn’t just riding Trump’s wave—he’s strategically positioning to inherit his base as Trump’s influence wanes. Backed by tech billionaires, he’s blending populist rhetoric with corporatist ambition. Is he a true believer, a puppet, or an opportunist? Watch the fault lines emerge.
Trump and his loyalists are a danger. He will destroy global relations as he is doing to our checks and balances. Loyalists have shown their fealty to him including the DOJ. As he dismantles protections and laws, his base continues to believe him. We are headed in a very dangerous direction.
Europe is only in the situation with Russia as America put in 5 billion toppling Ukrainian leader over ten years ago. N renegaded on agreements. Then did everything to ensure Putin would act.
Europe and European people do not care about what Vance or his orange mononeural boss would say or do, and there is no such an alliance with a fascist state that promotes genocides and violates human rights
Response: Friedrich Merz, the CDU leader, was more blunt. Germany defended free speech but not fake news, he said, and hate speech and offensive speech remained subject to legal constraints and independent courts.
I want to scream from my rooftop, loud enough to cross the Atlantic and for our European Allie’s and friends to hear, “his and this administration’s views are not my views nor the views of most Americans!”
He and the rest of the people in this administration are loathsome.
While you are entitled to your opinion, with all due respect it is very unfair of you to accuse individuals of doing nothing when you have no idea what they are doing. To beat down on people who are trying to fight back doesn’t help. At all.
As I pray more of my countrymen do. It’s gutting, though, to see what is happening to my country, feeling I am doing as much as I can do personally, incredulous others remain oblivious, and also feel I am being held responsible for these actions which are so insane. It’s painful in every way.
Sir, I am an older American. I have spent hours on the phones every day for the last two weeks calling various MoC. I am writing emails. I am marching Monday. I am trying to fight back as much as I am capable.
That's good to hear. If enough of you do that then there's a chance. I really hope so. Honestly, though, from this distance I'm wondering how it can be stopped without the use of force. If the military stands by their oaths then maybe but of course that is another nightmare in itself. Good luck.
I think that’s because the Democrats are like UK One Nation Tories, not left wing just a less vindictive party that will ameliorate the most heinous crimes of capitalism. The lax gun laws and lack of free healthcare are still there despite a recent Democrat government.
The Thiel/Musk team tells Vance what to say.
These South African Nazis think they can take over the world by undermining democracies with propaganda.
It's just talk, backed by big money. Ignore them.
To be perfectly honest, it was a very hard it is a sad and very cluster fuck of an administration is on full display the street. I want to think the 77.3 million people who hate their country and voted for anti-Americans thank you we really appreciate it
The Republican Party has always had an underlying right wing streak. Charles Lindbergh was a member of the America First Committee and fascist sympathizer. Senator Joseph McCarthy ruined thousands of lives with his government witch hunts.
Now Trump is providing fair haven for Musk's Nazi salute and the obvious endorsement by Musk and Vance of the Nazi apologist AfD party. The GOP decimation of health care seems to be the start of a government policy of eugenics. This is not the American way.
Yea! Trump et al are so concerned about Ukraine, Europe or the Baltic nations ‘powder key zone’, that he sends troops to defend non war zones on the Mexican border! Very tactical and so on trend!
What do you think we should do?
We warned people what was coming but they didn't listen and here we are. There are plenty of angry protests and people trying to fight but MAGAts are hijacking everything.
Take a lesson from what is happening here and make sure it doesn't happen where you are.
Ironically, all these patriots that were ready to bear arms against a tyrannical regime are now faced with the hard truth that the regime change they put in place is the dangerous one.
There were Germans, who were against the Nazis, but too few of them stood against what happened, in the end all Germans were responsible. If American citizens don't stop this then all Americans will also be responsible.
Temporary collapse. Any future President- post the orange faced corrupt traitor and his band of intellectual pygmies- will reengage. Whether Democrat or Republican.
It depends on the words spoken, the mood music and the actions taken. At the time of reengagement. But a lack of trust from Europe is possible- at the least to begin with.
During Biden things went back to normal more or less, the US rejoined the Paris accord etc., but why should anyone plan anything even with a reasonable administration if they know that agreements might just as well not be honoured? Not to mention the rudeness and conceit.
Georgians have been protesting every single day, each evening, for months & even then their freedom is not assured.
Occasional protests will not stop the destruction of the US's democracy. I understand the shock & confusion but if citizens don't do anything to stop this you'll all be responsible.
It is NOT the collapse of the #transatlantic_alliance.
It is the collapse of humanity, it is the collapse of dignity, it is the collapse of diplomatic friendship, it is the collapse of #America.
Totally unqualified to speak for this country.
This clown has 2 years of government experience as a do nothing Republican Senator and was put in his position by the billionaire weirdo’s who want to destroy our democracy.
Well, Vance’s speech laid bare how it has collapsed for the new government recently installed in the U.S. Most Americans understand the function of the alliance.
Good question. Vance chose to attack the EU and the UK for attacking freedom of speech. None of his accusations were accurate and all were made up alt-right conspiracy theory bullshit. But they speak highly of Vladimir Putin all the time. A man known for his tolerance of fee speech… (/s)
"If no lawyer within earshot of the President is willing to give him that advice, then I expect you will eventually find someone who is enough of a fool, or enough of a coward, to file your motion. But it was never going to be me. Please consider this my resignation.”
Being lectured on ‘free’-anything from a country who believe it’s okay to control what a woman does with her body, and who think it’s okay to allow children to be murdered rather than control gun ownership makes me laugh. Fuck you Vance and Trump. I’d rather be European than American all day long
In the West we sanction fascist states. What are we waiting for? Fuck tariffs. Impose sanctions against the US, cease all trade and ban international flights between the civilised world and the US. Trump's regime is basically saying 'Europe must turn fascist to join us'. Shared values my arse. 🖕🇺🇸
It's more about principles and defending a rules based world. The US administration has undeniably gone rogue and takes political interference to an unprecedented scale. Now an enemy, not an ally. That spray-tanned turd and his evil disciples have more respect for fascist dictators than democracy.
This is kind of what they want us to believe in. An inequitable world based on competition, poverty and suffering. But cooperation, equity and dignity are what humanity thrives on. It's why they hate the EU. Why they hate any level of international cooperation and international organisations.
We've already had two world wars fought to defeat fascists like these. We are so on the brink of a third one. The US must be rejected in every respect.
But Americans, even if they think it's wrong, aren't doing anything to fight for their democracy. Why? If you don't stand up, when history presents these situations, then you're responsible too. Where's the fight? I'm not judging, I suspect us Brits would be stunned into inaction too.
Yes. In the UK, whilst not perfect by any means, the rule of law applies to everyone. In the US it appears, from the outside, that the rule of law applies to the rich and is political. The less money you have, the less the chance of justice. It's just got way worse in the last three weeks.
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We have tools, 'money' and tech.
Do we have political will for freedom?
For democracy?
For right to excist?
https://youtu.be/8ThNMEwLF7s?si=ibv8yZ-L6DtIYKZR
We "beat" both Stalin and Hitler in WW2.
How about rest of you join us this time early on to defend democracy?
We - the democracy - are stronger than all dictators.
When are US-Generals/institutions going to realise that Trump/Musk are killing the constitution & betraying the people?
Freedom, peace & democracy of US allies & the US are threatened
When are they going to be exposed as traitors?
This is the new Third Reich
And Americans voted for it
Well done, guys
Morons
Most Americans did NOT vote for this and do NOT want it.
They'll probably be able to help us out.
by Vice President J.D Vance
Anyone who wears the MAGA hat is the enemy. It’s as simple as that. No mercy for treasonous MAGATS. Purge them from the gene pool.
Remember Victoria Nuland's "fuck the EU"?...
He and the rest of the people in this administration are loathsome.
These South African Nazis think they can take over the world by undermining democracies with propaganda.
It's just talk, backed by big money. Ignore them.
I apologize for the stupidity of Americans and for the asshole that is in charge.
-an embarrassed American
We warned people what was coming but they didn't listen and here we are. There are plenty of angry protests and people trying to fight but MAGAts are hijacking everything.
Take a lesson from what is happening here and make sure it doesn't happen where you are.
Just as MAGA prays for an end to gun violence, I have no solution on how to end their hold on America
Voters need another option.
If:
-living through the pandemic
-the horrors he caused at the borders
-the blatant theft of PPP funds
did not move an eligible voter to keep this person from returning to office
A 3rd party is just more noise echoing in an empty vessel
They wanted to be led by a “strongman”, and won’t realize what they have lost until it is far too late.
Not that another party, based on morality, couldn't rise from their ashes.
Occasional protests will not stop the destruction of the US's democracy. I understand the shock & confusion but if citizens don't do anything to stop this you'll all be responsible.
It is the collapse of humanity, it is the collapse of dignity, it is the collapse of diplomatic friendship, it is the collapse of #America.
This clown has 2 years of government experience as a do nothing Republican Senator and was put in his position by the billionaire weirdo’s who want to destroy our democracy.
"If no lawyer within earshot of the President is willing to give him that advice, then I expect you will eventually find someone who is enough of a fool, or enough of a coward, to file your motion. But it was never going to be me. Please consider this my resignation.”
UK civil society is not really built on the "rule of law" in the same way as the USA is founded on it.