I served in the military and I worked at a relatively cushy biotech factory for a couple of years and the military was infinitely more easy and comfortable work. The factory is what got me to go back and finish my undergrad.
Counterpoint: The military actually has an incentive to train your physically to be able to do the job they want you to do, that's why you have Bootcamp and regular PT
Industrial factories have no such incentive, they'll boot your ass out ASAP - and that's a history of labor rights right there.
Aside: The military wants you fighting fit but that doesn't mean they also won't expose you regularly to chemicals and burn pits they know for a fact will quadruple your chances for cancer later in life.
I don't know how to explain to people that also "Standing for 10 hours" doesn't translate to like, making you stronger or more resilient in any way either.
It just makes you exhausted. You'd still have to exercise or go to the gym with all the time you don't have to work on being healthy.
I used to do 12 hour rotating shifts making kevlar and some mornings I would literally crawl from my car to my front door, because my muscles would lock up on the way home.
A friend of mine is an airline pilot - flies the big wide bodies. I joke with him about how half the men in the US think they could do his job with no training.
Everyone glorifying factory work right now are sociopathic idiots that obviously haven’t stepped foot in a factory, much less worked in one. I’ve worked in and around processing plants, book binders, aluminum tube makers, you name it; it’s body and soul destroying. They’re just cosplaying.
It's the overconfidence of the goose fighters that always gets me. You really want to go one on one (quickly more than one) with the angriest most territorial animal in the world?
Yeah we're super lucky up here that our geese are human friendly. You can walk right by them and they are chill.
They even patiently wait their turn for crossing the street. Which is weird because they could just... fly over the street but choose to walk like humans.
it depends on whether you can defend against a goose's attacks for long enough to grab them by their neck. they're intimidating and can do serious damage, but they also have a big weak point.
multiple geese though? just pray you at least have a big stick to fend them off
I am only confident against geese from years in the trenches 😂 if you can survive the initial shock and awe display, they weight ten pounds, have hollow bones, and exceedingly grab-able necks. I recommend yelling "WHO'S RUNNING NOW" and running straight at them with arms outstretched haha
I’ll grant them rat and house cat (though house cats can do damage). Anything above that, no. A properly motivated goose or medium sized dog can cause serious damage.
Having lived my entire life with cats, that number is absurd. Without any tools/weapons, nope. One angry/threatened/fearful cat and you're toast. The eyes go first, then it's all over. I've seen what a 20lb cat can do to its prey. Been bit by the nicest cat in the world just cause he was on edge.
I had to give my sweet, cuddly cat a bath. It took 3 people. We lost a shower head, a toilet seat, and quite a bit of blood. He was entirely unscathed.
i used to come home and cry because my feet hurt so much from standing at the cash register for 6 straight hours at my first "real" job (CVS) in high school! in high school! back when my joints still worked and i couldn't throw my back out from sneezing too hard!
God yes. One of the best things we ever did at my workplace was putting flooring down (just as I was being moved to another role...). Its like a soft feather pillow compared to the concrete.
Do these Republicans even know that, when you are a dancer, and you manage to get your Union card, the first thing you get from membership is the iron-clad assurance that you will NEVER have to dance on a poured-concrete floor ever again? That's the most prominent thing you get from your union.
I'm actually not doing that bad for 37. I've got some back issues but they don't flair up very much. I mostly do fab now and I love it. Light manufacturing is miserable work
they are thinking they will get 8 hour days, no forced overtime, safe and sanitary conditions and good pay. But, with unions, NLRB, workplace safety inspections being gutted none of that is likely.
Ha I worked a factory job as a college kid and didn't last 1 shift.
The other people on the line were shooting daggers bc my slow work cost them $ — they had incentive pay based on how many pieces we all produced per hour.
Just because work is not complex doesn't mean it's easy.
I assembled shower heads for Water Pik in the 70s, seasonally, and to my surprise, it was a job I felt like I could handle without my head exploding (and it made my arm like iron).
But they didn't hire me on as a Permanent, so maybe they disagreed with my assessment.
When I was in my early 20's I worked in several factory jobs. It only took a couple of years to figure out that I did NOT want to do that for the rest of my life.
Unfortunately I think my children will get all of the pain of this draconian trade war and not even shitty factory jobs from it.
Exactly. I'e competed at the national level at tennis and I know for damned sure that if I played Serena, the only points I'd ever get are the ones she'd let me get. I'd lose 6-0 6-0 in about 20 minutes.
It is BONKERS seeing guys who's "jobs" are talking into their laptops act like they would absolutely love working physical jobs. Yeah, sure, many of those guys are fit in an "I work out my glam muscles" sort of way. No idea what it's like to actually labor into your middle years. Frauds, every one.
I take your point. Both are harder than many men imagine, but tons of us could hold down a factory job. Only very good male tennis players could beat Serena Williams. The latter group is much smaller than the former.
... And that doesn't even account for the total cognitive dissonance of the guy who assumes he'll be management in the air conditioned offices with the hot secretary who never complains, based on his raw manly gumption, regardless of the fact that he can't operate a printer, much less CADCAM. 😂
I worked as an automotive design engineer for a while and as part of my orientation I had to work the factory floor for a couple days, assembling parts. It sucked and I was not good at it.
I did it. In my late teens and early twenties. It isn’t something that I reminisce about. The two positives are that some of my coworkers were great people that I still talk to today, and it motivated me to get my shit together and go back to college. Other than that… 💩
I worked a temp job in assembly in my early 20’s. My first day, the supervisor stood over my shoulder watching me all morning. Right before lunch, he said “you’ll need to pick up the pace after lunch”. I simply replied “I’m not coming back after lunch”. It wasn’t for me.
I've been in a factory for 26 yrs..currently we can't find employees willing to do this kind of work.And we pay well. It's literally insanity to think we are all of a sudden going to start making everything here lololol fucking hilarious 😂
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Also, I'd be willing to bet these tough guys extolling factory work wouldn't last a full shift working in a restaurant.
I think if this administration really wants to sell the public on factory jobs, they need to demonstrate their appeal.
I suggest that Vance, Hegseth, RFK, etc. all work an assembly line job for a month, just so we can see how awesome they are.
Industrial factories have no such incentive, they'll boot your ass out ASAP - and that's a history of labor rights right there.
You won't be their problem at that point
https://www.propublica.org/article/military-pollution-open-burns-radford-virginia
It just makes you exhausted. You'd still have to exercise or go to the gym with all the time you don't have to work on being healthy.
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2024/04/15/ron-desantis-bill-blocking-heat-protections-florida-workers/73324894007/
AI and technology will benefit, not them.
Yeah, it ain't gonna happen.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/how-easy-is-it-to-land-a-passenger-plane/index.html
Both wings detach: 50 pts
Detach and swap sides: 100 pts
Detached wings wipe out other planes: 250 per plane
See? Make it fun!
It doesn't say "Intact" 😄
And blacksmiths.
And carpenters.
And managing a wide array of weapons in a post apocalyptic landscape.
Kangaroos too. Maybe they have only seen cartoon kangaroos?
They even patiently wait their turn for crossing the street. Which is weird because they could just... fly over the street but choose to walk like humans.
multiple geese though? just pray you at least have a big stick to fend them off
But I’m also having some trouble with the 28% who believe they’d lose a fight to a rat.
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https://youtu.be/TivUZ7GtzHs?si=7qLHwbB8edbsdUyB
The other people on the line were shooting daggers bc my slow work cost them $ — they had incentive pay based on how many pieces we all produced per hour.
Just because work is not complex doesn't mean it's easy.
They were all better than McDonald's, which I did for three months once.
But they didn't hire me on as a Permanent, so maybe they disagreed with my assessment.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/16/nx-s1-5230240/amazon-injury-warehouse-senate-investigation
Unfortunately I think my children will get all of the pain of this draconian trade war and not even shitty factory jobs from it.
https://www.newsweek.com/surprising-americans-beat-wild-animals-fight-experts-1691793
2. I reckon I could beat Serena Williams. Not at tennis, obviously. That'd be ridiculous. But maybe at German whist.
I am told he lgot a job on a crew, promising to work through breaks etc. Wrecked both rotator cuffs on day 1. Now unemployed.
Delusional-ass keyboard warriors.
A lot of soil is contaminated.
Our outdoor soil is contaminated from years of unchecked business runoff in the past. It's challenging to get even grass to grow.
The only way here is with a greenhouse setup but that can get very expensive.
About right 👍🏻
Ps I could beat Serena at trivial pursuit as long as the topic is British comic books 1950 to the present! Tennis much less so…