Reminder: this is the same plan Russian operatives offered to Paul Manafort in exchange for their help getting Trump elected in 2016. (See Manafort’s testimony in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report.) - ThreadSky

hcrichardson.bsky.social • 1 day ago

Reminder: this is the same plan Russian operatives offered to Paul Manafort in exchange for their help getting Trump elected in 2016. (See Manafort’s testimony in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report.)

Reposted from Olga Nesterova

After meeting with Witkoff yesterday, who said “offering Russia the 4 territories would be the fastest way to achieve ceasefire”..

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Reuters: Putin agrees to ceasefire if Ukraine surrenders the rest of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk & Donetsk (about 1 mln people; for some regions as much as 40%)

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oldohman.bsky.social•1 day ago

ifreezn.bsky.social•1 day ago

2025 is literally Putin’s best Christmas ever. He’s getting everything he’s ever wanted even though he’s been a tyrannical, terrible boy.

All thanks to our idiot president and his jackass followers.

storygrrl.bsky.social•1 day ago

Witkoff is not a serious person.

Discussing this without Ukraine is a corrupt approach, destined to fail.

tailwaggingdog.bsky.social•1 day ago

Eventually it will become clear that the US no longer have any influence over this settlement. The current admin only want a ‘win’ for Trump, at any cost. But Ukr and Europe won’t agree. Russia are weak in the field and U and E know the battle for Europe is already underway anyway.

msarielknox.bsky.social•1 day ago

They don't even try to hide it.

frenshamrobin.bsky.social•18 hours ago

The Mafia Don whom America chose as president sees it as just a real estate deal from which he can personally profit. Like Gaza el Lago. Devoid of any morality. Greedy and vicious. The Ugly American is back.

wiryarky.bsky.social•1 day ago

So, what exactly is Russia giving up?

rismith.bsky.social•1 day ago

And it's about as reliable of a promise as Russia saying they just wanted Crimea.

lisafarrar.bsky.social•1 day ago

In other words, there's been no progress with Putin on a peace deal (that they don't want) since at least 2016.

totruth.bsky.social•11 hours ago

🇺🇦💛💙🙏

269purplefox.bsky.social•1 day ago

Zelensky should never agree to this offer. Ever.

contra-karen.bsky.social•1 day ago

📌

carepelto.bsky.social•1 day ago

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

orangewaterlilies.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Ridiculous

thomem.bsky.social•1 day ago

So what Putin has on Trump is his failure so far to turn over east Ukraine?!!! And when Biden won, he knew war would be necessary!

happylegsmalone.bsky.social•1 day ago

Go to hell Putin. He'll take some then want all.

fireweedak.bsky.social•1 day ago

It wouldn’t end anything. It would just give Putin a stronghold for a the next round of incursions and attacks pressing further west. He will never be satisfied.

energizemrscott.bsky.social•1 day ago

That wasn't a negotiation on the US part. They capitulated before he sat down with Putin. Ukraine should say hell no.

jsain.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Hell no! Bring in the adults and remove the clowns from US

chickpea7.bsky.social•1 day ago

For a ceasefire. This is Czechoslovakia 1938 all over again.

capemaydave.bsky.social•1 day ago

not quite sure Russia is grasping how badly the Trump gambit in Ukraine has brought China and Europe together

now it's a Continental war

Xi wins

Putin loses

kenbrooke.bsky.social•1 day ago

He wants sole ownership of the Sea of Azov. Is that personal vanity or some kind of strategic value? Both Trump and Putin are in their 70s, I feel like the world is caught up in the twilight dreams of 2 sociopaths.

lilactransform.bsky.social•1 day ago

Russia wants access to warm water ports. After Assad got the boot, their only option is to hold onto Ukrainian ports.

erikgunderson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is it fair to say that to the extent Russian interference in American social media influenced the 2016 election, this is why we have been made to suffer so?

It must be more complex that that: Russia could not have influenced us very much, only manipulated something that was already there within us.

staceythomas.bsky.social•1 day ago

1000newcolors.bsky.social•15 hours ago

cxraizeee.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is exactly how Hitler made his play, and Ukraine is being played the same by not having a true voice in the outcome.

wojciechmiq.bsky.social•12 hours ago

lpeterp.bsky.social•1 day ago

What? Putin cannot take one inch of Ukraine.

deannalynn1.bsky.social•1 day ago

#FuckPutin
#FuckTrump
#FuckMaga

markslavkin.bsky.social•1 day ago

America doesn’t own Ukraine. This is not our decision. Surrender is often a fast way to end a conflict. But it only encourages more invasion and more war in the future. We must stand with Ukraine.

tewing.bsky.social•14 hours ago

rudnicky.bsky.social•1 day ago

Russia gets the ethnic Russian regions that were being bombed and otherwise treated inhumanely. END the US proxy war!

eol.lol•22 hours ago

Russia is the one who bombed those people. Also, Russia bombs their own people all the time. This is not a proxy war, you are fully mistaken. Russia does not deserve regions just because they bomb them. Russia deserves NOTHING.

peg-texan.bsky.social•1 day ago

czedwards.bsky.social•1 day ago

And that Russia’s goal is control of the Sea of Azov, basically eliminating 90% of Ukraine’s shipping and shipyards. This is like a dude saying, I’ll stop abusing my STBex-wife, but only if she gives me her trust fund, and I’ll still be next door so no long term guarantees.

terry-157.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Ukraine must resist and defeat Russia regardless of the stupidity of WitLESS!

teachpeacex3.bsky.social•1 day ago

I've said it over and over...
DT wants Greenland to give to putin in exchange for leaving Ukraine alone...

He is...

minniecat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Good one!

pepper57.bsky.social•12 hours ago

And I thought all this time the aggressor, Russia, could have stopped it soonest by NOT AGRESSING.

maryschreiner.bsky.social•1 day ago

So scary. Sounds like the Munich Accord to me. Hitler lied. Sound familiar?

bethehecht.bsky.social•1 day ago

No. Fucking. Way.

mhockman.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Unacceptable! 😡

bsvarnycarlson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Just say no!

cabbageridge.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sorry. They shouldn’t give up land unless they want to.

paulapowell29.bsky.social•1 day ago

It'll only be a temporary peace, similar to the invasion of Crimea. Putin will come back on the offensive in a few years. Giving up that land will be the end of the Ukraine.

creddingvye.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thanks for reminder!

cherikap.bsky.social•1 day ago

Don’t do it, Ukraine 🇺🇦!

westonhaus.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Seems a bit... one-sided. Also, rewarding the aggressor in the fight.

So... an earlier encounter with Putin should follow:

upupdown.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Russia gets what it wants and doesn't have to give anything in return. Ukraine has to give up the east of its country and gets nothing in return. The US mafia boss is plundering the rest of Ukraine without giving anything in return. Ukraine is left empty-handed and has to say "Thank you, sir."

jaxs05.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Exactly. Great point.

chipnyman.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hitler promised Chamberlain all he wanted was Sudetenland. He got it, then invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia six months later. Putin is just as trustworthy as Hitler was, meaning not at all. Preserve Ukrainian sovereignty! Protect Europe from Putin!

dennahintze.bsky.social•1 day ago

And Trump!

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