The Trump administration is demanding the home addresses of 700,000 people suspected of being in the country illegally from the IRS. The IRS is resisting this request, as complying would directly violate federal tax privacy laws.
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States need to start suing Musk for all the investigations that he squashed on a federal level as I am sure they have similar laws on the books to federal laws in relation to allegations of those investigations. Throw sand in the gears every way they can.
Erosion of Taxpayer Confidentiality – The IRS is bound by Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code, which strictly prohibits the disclosure of taxpayer information to unauthorized entities, including other government agencies.
This would also have a chilling effect on tax compliance. Many undocumented immigrants pay taxes using Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs). If their tax data were used against them, it could discourage compliance, reducing tax revenues and driving more people to work off the books.
Damn right. It's already hard enough to think about paying taxes to a fascist government. Bring back a barter economy! That Trump admin is going to take us back generations anyway.
What’s so fucking wild too, I work with kids with complex medical needs and like who’d have thought we’d have internal memos on what to do if ICE shows up.
PS- we can use hipaa to tell them to get fucked but still. What the actual fuck
The worst thing is that undocumented workers trusted the IRS that their info would only be used to let them pay taxes. That trust will be broken and the ITIN program destroyed.
What's keeping anyone tax compliant? Maybe people should change their employee tax forms to send nothing during the year. Don't need a refund if you don't pay.
Which would be AMAZING for gangs and other underground criminal operations. Also this would make it so that undocumented workers will lose what little protection they do have against exploitation.
We need a tax boycott. Now. Why should Americans pay taxes when their data isn’t secure, their dollars aren’t being spent in Congress appropriated ways, and they are at risk of being flagged by a corrupt billionaire?
half the shit these FedSoc people espouse is complete unconstitutional gobbledygook. they don't have ideals or principles. they have a bloodlust for absolute power
This hurts my heart. These are our hardworking neighbors who are trying to do things right while biding their time for a path to residency or citizenship to open.💔
US Constitution
Fourth Amendment
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation…"
Trump's removed the Constitution from the White House website. In Trump's world that means it no longer applies. What're you going to do, send the Federal Marshals after him? He's fired the ethical ones & only the 'loyalists' remain. Even if they tried to take action, the SCotUS will side with him.
Imagine focusing our immigration enforcement efforts on people who paid taxes and clearly weren’t trying to hide. What a waste. Murderers and rapists who are in the country illegally don’t file tax returns and tell the feds where they are.
yeah, the IRS doesn't have the authority to do that just like they don't have the authority to turn over information from tax returns that have income from criminal activities .. course, if his thugs get into the system, they'll give anything he wants .. any trump thug in power can't be trusted
Yeah. And they can get credit cards through their ITINs.
I worked a lot through that program as a former banker to ensure they could have a prosperous start to life here in the USA
I helped a LOT of people. Including Ukranian Refugees and people like you just spreading misinformation about something they don't know really grinds my gears.
Weird a tax payer identification number is used to get a credit card.
Please don't spread misinformation. This is easily searchable anywhere on the internet. Like seriously just Google it before you spread misinformation. Banks are heavily against risk.
You worked for a bank. I work for the IRS. I helped ITIN applicants for over a decade. The IRS issues the number, so they DO get to say what that number is for.
But as I said, we can’t help what businesses want to do.
This could easily be a 4th amendment violation as well, especially if they use it to show up at people’s homes. Illegally obtained information is inadmissible, so where’s the probable cause?
Didn’t or isn’t FELON POS and side kick getting or got rid of a bunch of employers? Are they calling them back too? Oops sorry we didn’t mean to- that’s going to be a big load of work this time of year unless everyone refuses to file and change W2s
If the IRS has their addresses, that probably means they are paying taxes…so you want to deport tax paying citizens but allow in sex traffickers..Spectacular!
Sometimes I imagine that parallel universe where Kamala Harris is our President.
Then I have to quickly put it out of my mind because the thought is too painful.
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This is one of the things I was most afraid of when they started poking into the IRS. I am a volunteer tax preparer for the VITA program and help many families with ITINs file their tax returns for free. To think that people I have helped would be harmed by this is heartbreaking and terrifying.
Next they’ll be making everyone they send to the concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay get tattoos on their arms. The nazification of America is in full swing.
Hold up! Is the Trump admin admitting that these people who are suspected of being here illegally are actually paying taxes because I seem to remember more than 11,780 times when they said they don’t. Also, this would open the door to Trump’s taxes 💅
Yeah i figured as much. Talk about stupid. This is why i think politicians should be required to play 4x games, it teaches them how to manage the economy better than... well better than they know now apparently...
Today pissed him off even more. He thought the world would love his bullying and when he realized the world is with Ukraine well let the rampage begin for real now
..... If Trump is asking THE IRS for 700,000 people "suspected of being in the country illegally"..... That means he knows they PAY TAXES and would need to admit that... does it not?
We need to catch him in that AND make sure he doesn't get the info.
I've been thinking for a while that they want to treat the illegal immigrants like they did the Japanese Americans; lock them up so we can steal their businesses and property. This IRS data can tell them who has assets worth targeting.
Can’t someone tell him to go F himself?
He wants to remove the donations of 700,000 to the IRS by people who can’t benefit from it? He’ll succeed at: adding to the natnl. debt and: Justify cutting $& from the fund which, belongs to THE TAXPAYER and NOT the federal government.
They get a special ID number that isnt an SSN number. The IRS has long allowed this to get the taxes flowing in from them while not using it against them.
To get paid by your job, you have to complete an I-9 and a W-4. Taxes are automatically deducted from your check. Then when it's tax time, they usually don't file a return for various reasons.
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Looks like more illegal activity that at a minimum needs a lawsuit but we need more than a court order they won’t listen to. Today is a dark day to be an American. My grandfather and FIL who served would be horrified.
Does this mean 700,000 people have been paying into not only taxes but Social Security that they will never see? They actually want to get taxpayers out of the country? These people need to be checked into a psych hospital.
That is correct. I saw this in an article recently. How deporting those that pay taxes will take away millions the gov receives . Won’t fn find that reported on doge
um, wait, the irs are the good guys? really? tbh i got several addresses i can ad wheres the sight?1060 west addison..and a few others, theyre in the chamber
@altnps.bsky.social My sister-in-law's office was advised to remove all DEI, and pronouns on tax forms by putting an x through them, and to remove her sign that says "You're civil liberties are protected here"
in 1980, FBI agents walked into a Census office with a warrant signed by a federal judge and the Census Bureau, in their wisdom, told them, "Sorry, we only take Acts of Congress."
You know what sucks. I love to do this with my staff. It means at annual review time, we have this amazing record of accomplishments and I can justify the raise or bonus.
And now I can't because it will just traumatize them.
difference being, your staff know it's used to reward them for their work, not fishing for reasons to fire them or handing info to "malign foreign actors"
So they want to focus on people paying tax but will never be able to draw against medicare or social security??? These are the dangerous people they want to save us all from. What disgusting excuses for people
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Then we can exterminate the problem here.
All MAGATS and their filthy sub human vermin families…
But it agree with you fully.
Because you know they have their list of libs they are going to target.
What’s that Bible saying-“ do onto others before they do it to you”?
PS- we can use hipaa to tell them to get fucked but still. What the actual fuck
Remember: Mockery is actually a very useful tool against fascism!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/29/politics/charles-littlejohn-trump-taxes-leak/index.html
But this works for the Cult. They think is all a huge conspiracy.
Fourth Amendment
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation…"
Not American so I apologize for the stupid question.
Even if not legal
They want to rent a house, or buy a car or get credit
They want to be legal- or system sucks
Fkg jerks
And DAMN RIGHT HE CAN’T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. Privacy is a huge part of the mission of the IRS. Privacy for ALL. Including him. He forgets that.
"You told us immigrants don't pay taxes. You said that's why you were deporting them. Now you claim you need the tax records of illegal immigrants."
I worked a lot through that program as a former banker to ensure they could have a prosperous start to life here in the USA
Please don't spread misinformation. This is easily searchable anywhere on the internet. Like seriously just Google it before you spread misinformation. Banks are heavily against risk.
But as I said, we can’t help what businesses want to do.
PAY TAXES UNLIKE TRUMP, MUSK, BEZOS, ZUCKERBERG AND ALL THE OTHER TRAITOROUS BILLIONAIRES!
As we have recently seen, he is using the Supreme Court against Judges decisions.. we don’t even have the courts
Then I have to quickly put it out of my mind because the thought is too painful.
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#NeverAgainIsNow
#ResistFascism
#DisruptDOGE
I keep tabs on conservative spaces, and there is in-fighting happening about Ukraine and Gaza - because Trump said he'd bring peace.
This can and should be used publicly, constantly.
Repubs won’t admit this fact about taxes
We need to catch him in that AND make sure he doesn't get the info.
Make it seem like ice is just doing a great job
He wants to remove the donations of 700,000 to the IRS by people who can’t benefit from it? He’ll succeed at: adding to the natnl. debt and: Justify cutting $& from the fund which, belongs to THE TAXPAYER and NOT the federal government.
Paying taxes, raising families, contributing to the economy and community. Horrific, isn't it?
Looks like more illegal activity that at a minimum needs a lawsuit but we need more than a court order they won’t listen to. Today is a dark day to be an American. My grandfather and FIL who served would be horrified.
They've proven themselves willing to circumvent law to get what they want, or just take it by force.
I hope they are thinking of next steps to protect that data.
Send this to your closest 100 friends or else have bad luck for the next four years. ✌️
And now I can't because it will just traumatize them.