They are just picking the low hanging fruit before the RIF. Get folks to resign, offer VERA, and then VSIP. Next will be the RIF to get to whatever number they have in mind.
Where's all the fucking money for this blatantly illegal bribery coming from? Our tax dollars? Our taxes are funding their fucking attack on our public services and it is beyond infuriating.
They never pay. Nobody is falling for this shill anymore. The sycophants and lackeys put in as dept heads are gonna have trouble when it’s over. Just Jarvanka who are pariahs in NYC.
I work for the HHS. The offer is a "up to $25k" OR what you are entitled to as your severance, whichever is LESS. It is a terrible deal for HHS employees, either way we lose. If we take this offer, we are voluntarily resigning and will not be eligible for unemployment benefits.
It does seem an early retirement buyout in order to replace career civil servants with Trump loyalists is both a waste of our tax $ and fascist. Is media powerless to convey what a waste this is?
They're trying to avoid giving anyone housing that currently belongs to outside investors, but imo if you aren't native, you shouldn't be able to buy shit here
Has the money for a payout been approved by Congress? Is musk dishing this out from his own coffers? This is another ploy & these folks won’t get their money.
The rules around this VSIP is ridiculous. Accept the lesser of 25k or your severance, lose the right to appeal you being let go and get nothing for stealing fizzy lifting drink.
It is a scam.
Why is the health department under attack? Is it because people would not acknowledge bleach? Piping sunlight throughout the body? Or whatever the hell bizarre idea Trump came up with? No one worshipped him enough? Such a strange enemy designation?
Been scrolling through responses,
haven’t seen one yet observing that
this looks like a land grab in the making, to build a
MOTHERFUCKING TRUMP RESORT IN FUCKING YELLOWSTONE?
This is beyond the pale.
Yes.
We will see a Trump Resort in a Federal Park soon, folks.
Enjoy the View!
And what does $25K get someone these days? Elon Musk takes BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS and the labor of the country gets offered pennies on the dollar.
What if we set up a FundMe page to encourage tRump to leave? We know he can be bought - it’s only a matter of the sticker price. We can probably count on contributions from at least 48.3% of the population.
It should be stopped!
The HHS oversees Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare is a federal program providing health coverage for individuals aged 65 and older, as well as some younger people with disabilities. It’s primarily funded through payroll taxes.
Medicaid is a joint federal and state program that helps individuals with limited income and resources afford medical costs. Each state administers its Medicaid program, following federal guidelines.
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is responsible for overseeing both programs, and is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
As of March 8, 2025, Dr. Mehmet Oz has been nominated by Drumpf to serve as the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS). His nomination is currently pending Senate confirmation. In the interim, Stephanie Carlton is serving as the acting Administrator of CMS.
I have to say that Canadians are getting tired of the ‘move to Canada’ meme. First, you have a country. Fight for it. Second, it’s pretty fucking presumptuous to think you can just move next door without asking. We don’t want caravans of Americans showing up at our borders! Think ffs!
Don’t get touchy, I have zero plans to move to Canada, I don’t like snow. I was just trying to point to the absurdity of the “waste, fraud, and abuse” warriors paying people $25k to go away.
To be fair, we're considering relocation due to my child's health being targeted by the new "head" of HHS. Also, we both have careers that are on the list of Canada's expedited immigration fields. So we wouldn't be just crashing on Canada's couch.
One, I don't know why you'd assume people aren't asking, lol. There are programs in place to legally get into Canada.
Two, the irony that crossing borders without permission anger is the platform Trump ran on to get here.
Three - were fighting. Don't you worry 😉
I am assuming because that’s what we hear people say. A lot. ‘I’m gonna move to Canada.’ I even heard a person say they were fleeing the USA to escape socialized medicine! The assumption made is that all you have to do is pack the trailer and find a place to live. We hear it A LOT!
For me, I've never said it, but finding a country better than this one has been in the back of my mind for decades. Still, it won't happen. I will stay here and fight, very possibly dying for this cause. I am very vocal. I march. I disseminate information for others to be aware. My kids understand.
I can understand where you're coming from. This is the exact anti-immigration sentiment (almost word for word) that's gotten us into the mess we're in down here though, so maybe consider that. Those of us who might be thinking of running are the most vulnerable among us.
That's not really the point. There is some anti-immigration sentiment here, but the point, I think is that Americans seem to think that just because they want it, it should happen. There often seems to be a lack of respect for Canada's say in the matter.
You are responding to a post where a Canadian suggest that so many Americans think Canada is open to them. I'm saying Canada is not open; it has a process, as you recognize. The change of phrase from "I'm going to move to Canada" to "maybe I'd like to go to Canada" gets a different response.
Our country is not a back up plan for people. For the most part, we are very inclusive and diverse but we are slowing down immigration right now while housing can catch up. They mess your in is far more complicated than this.
No country on the planet is a "backup plan" for people. By and large people want to stay in their own country, the place they grew up in and have known their whole lives. Thing is, we can't always do that because sometimes our lives are threatened.
American’s against what is happening have to stand up against it. I’m marching today here to bring awareness to women’s rights largely because of the actions of the US. It’s either a civil war or a world war for the US
I’m trying to explain why we tired of people saying oh I’ll just go to Canada. I do believe we will see refugee programs start here for those in immediate damage and I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up taking in many of the Ukraine that are being tossed.
Well said, Kellybubbles! The war is rich vs poor, and the billionaires have already started attacking Canada, Europe and S America, it’s a billionaire global coup and no country will be immune. We must unite as HUMANS not citizens of (insert country here).
CAN has been anti-U.S. immigration 4 a long time, along w/ other countries. When ppl here say to other Americans “if u don’t like it here, then leave.” I always laugh. 🤭 They think Americans r wanted & we’re allowed to overstay our visas. I got grilled so hard in 2019 for my 2nd UK entry in a month.
Canada should annex blue states, entire west coast and Minnesota and the northeast. Let the red states try to make it with just Texas and Florida to support them.
The ones coming would be the anti-Trumpists, not the Trumpists. We're pretty well educated and not filled with hate. But really, we're not coming. It's just something we say to help ourselves cope with the nightmare we're living in. Take it as a compliment. We're doing the best we can.
You should understand that we find it just as offensive as being referred to by the orange anus as the 51st state. It’s the underlying assumption that we are here to serve the USA.
We are here for Canada 🇨🇦
Do you think we like the idea of not feeling safe in our own country? You think the idea of leaving is something we enjoy? These decisions are hard, And not everyone is built to fight.
And I'm willing to bet the people wanting to relocate are not the Americans you want to keep out. Aka not maga
You are mistaken if you think that I want to keep Americans out. I want to keep out the attitude that the border is nonexistent. As I said, it’s a version of Manifest Destiny, and we Canadians are very wary of that. We are not the 51st state, we are our own sovereign nation.
I think most Americans making lighthearted comments about wanting to move to Canada…
are well aware they moving to Canada is a dream that is very difficult to execute in reality. It’s really a compliment. And it doesn’t mean people aren’t fighting for their country.
But I don’t hate immigrants. I dislike the assumption that so many Americans make that if things get tough they ASSUME they can move in. It’s a variant of Manifest Destiny, whether you know it or not.
But if roles were reversed, and it was Canada that was going fascist, you’d think of moving to the closest democratic country similar to yours, wouldn’t you?
I'm going to need that passport if I move and have to update my voter registration after the corrupt GOP passes the SAVE act and disenfranchises women voters.
I just started the process of changing my name back after my divorce. My new id comes soon with my maiden name (and pink hair 😁) and I'm so excited. Next is get a copy of my bc and new passport. Just in case.
I'll be good, I promise. I will co-op with my new neighbors and contribute everything I have and can do to make sure to maintain the good integrity of your country. I promise to contribute as positively as I can to your society and respect your laws and ways of life there.
To the Americans who want to come to Canada; do you know how abysmal it is here to find sustainable housing, get a job, and actually access healthcare? Please look into the huge problems many new arrivals to Canada are facing right now and give it a second thought.
I’m not saying this out of anti-immigration sentiment; I am saying this because I see new and old Canadian citizens suffering a whole awful lot these days because the perception of living in Canada from the outside is very different than the reality. Things are very bad here right now lol
Also, I would like to mention that many of us here have close Ancestry to Canada. Both my grandparents were Canadian on BOTH sides of my family. I can't get citizenship by descent atm due to the generational rules, but I am proud of my heritage. Americans aren't Trump.
This isn't the sentiment around BC. We go often, and people were urging us to leave and escape because America is collapsing. Americans willing to move to Canada won't be republican fascists. They will likely be very left-wing which will help the liberals win.
Agreed. Seattle born and raised and BC has often been my fav place to visit. I have dreamed of moving there too. Healthy, beautiful environment. Living away from the greedy monsters taking over the US is a dream come true.
Many of us Never-MAGA's are in hell! Plz dont forget the Mtn states!
CO, NM
We will be moving to Canada and I don't feel bad because I am Bernie Sanders left and I would love to help educate any Canadians on the fence w/ their vote because we can help prevent this from happening to Canada.
Hell, I am even learning French!
Bernie all the way! I wish people here would pay better attention to what ge says, and has been saying for YEARS! Many Canadians have a better comprehension of US politics than many here
While I understand your sentiments, as a Washingtonian, do you know how many Canadians own homes in my neighborhood? There are loads of you! We welcome you! Sheesh!
🙋🏼♀️ Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tucson, AZ - we have tons of snowbird Canadians who own homes and visit the U.S. whenever they want. I worked the 2020 Census and I enumerated many wealthy communities with up to 20% Canadian part time residents.
Unless you’re Native American, your ancestors came here from somewhere else. Sometimes a fire lights underneath your ass, and it’s just time to move. Just ask the Jews, the Roma, and other demographics targeted by the Nazis.
No, no it’s not. It’s tantamount to being treated like the 51st state. A variant of manifest destiny. And it’s not about ‘better.’ It’s about respect for a sovereign nation. Why do we not see anyone saying, ‘I’m going to move to Uruguay, Switzerland, England, Australia, Ireland, Greece, Germany, etc
I don't want want to move anywhere. I want my grands safe and would do what i need for that.
I am willing to fight for my country even if im old and broken.
I would do anything for my grands, they are innocent in all this.
They are little kids, just like the ones murdered in Gaza.
I hate all this
Take that $25k, invest in some alcohol, some rags, and some matches, and then take that to your nearest govt office, and make sure they understand the fight they just started won't be won, bc everything will burn bc of their ignorance and supporting the Nazis who are seizing power
I’m sure a big, tough psychiatrist - strong guy - tough - will come up to him, with tears in his eyes, - big guy - strong - and say: “Sir, you are the most psychologically powerful man ever to have walked the earth”…
Technically the severance pay is less than the cost of keeping them on in the long run (but this doesn't change the fact this is B's and they probably will not deliver and they're just trying to get rid of people)
Hmm… #RichMen and #needles and #camels… #Watch this video… special attention to #timestamp #5min to #End!!!
#BlasphemyBlaspheyou #Suzy #IfYou’veNever👀An🐘Ski #ThenYou’veNeverBeenOnAcid
Start negotiating. $5 mil "donation", tax free, same healthcare long time elected officials get for the life of you and your family, some Golden Corral coupons, and maybe a couple of Rivians, cuz Teslas suck. Get creative.
When it comes to unemployment compensation,taking a buyout can be considered a voluntary resignation. That's why the feds are offering them. Severance is different as it usually means their position has already been eliminated. I handled UC for my state and these claims are complicated.
If you take the money, treat it as your SALARY for sitting at the park entrance for the next few months, causing civil disobedience, and streaming live to those of us who support you.
Be one of those “paid troublemakers” Trump hates do much!
They should take that money and then run to Massachusetts. Our governor just launched this campaign to recruit federal workers who have been laid off to come here for jobs. And that includes training. https://youtu.be/vsSZusVUawk?feature=shared
@govmaurahealey.bsky.social might need to help more than just federal employees. Companies that work with the federal government have started firing many of their staff.
That's fun. Gov Newsome decided to wage war on his state workers by requiring RTO by July in the hopes that they'll quit in large swaths so that federal workers can be then hired instead(because God forbid federal workers be allowed to telework?).
Good on King County gov. City of Seattle won’t make the same offer. Federal employees are too disgusted by all the fin fraud funneled to contractors, especially the ones started by former City Employees. How’s Stepherson & Associates doing these days?& C3, most $$$ never built public project in WA.
Me too. Being a whistleblower against the City & State sux. There is no accountability, some conservatives thot DOGE would jump in, but Musk is pro-procurement fraud. I’ll stand corrected if DOGE ever lets the Federal OIG offices move on charges unrelated to laser pointers, drones & moving trucks
I think they except anybody that was open minded and needs a job. Massachusetts is really expensive though. But there are spots that are not. Western mass is beautiful. And they’re definitely are more affordable areas. But the closer you move to Boston, the harder it gets.
25,000 doesn’t go very far when supporting a family especially with hundreds of thousands newly unemployed federal employees and no new jobs being created.
I was thinking about the competition to get a job but didn’t think about them not qualifying for unemployment. They’re throwing people into poverty 🤦♀️😡
That's the point. Throw thousands of people into poverty so they are forced to bow down to Trump to survive, or die. That's literally what this administration is trying to do to all of us citizens. Force us into loyalty to live, or have us die. Which they would be happy to kill us all off
The less people have jobs. the less money goes in Social security, they are trying to kill Social Security by firing thousands of workers . They are slowly getting what they have wanted. The end of Social security.
Elon promised same at Twitter and it was just a scam.
Unless it’s an iron-clad contract with built-in Poison Pills (should they fail) AND all monies are in a 3rd party Escrow acct. - this will only favor trump, so don’t believe it.
If this administration will keep dismantling our federal agencies, it’s time to stop paying our federal taxes. What’s the point to pay salaries with our taxes, to people who do nothing for Americans?
Tell all government employees not to leave or resign, that's what they want so they can take over easier. Resist them, if they want to get rid of federal employees then make them go through the whole process and dot every i and cross every t.
Hope no one falls for this crap.
The funds are not approved and just like everyone else who has lost their jobs most are being hired back because what they’re doing is illegal!
Wouldn’t it be lovely if the press pulled their heads out of their asses and stopped calling what’s happened and happening a “RIF?” RIFs have specific rules and timelines. Pity the feds when there are numbskull chucklefucks clouding the narrative to the American public. Shameful little pricks, all.
It is so unfair and unbelievable 45 just continues to fuck every thing up , and crickets from the fuckin ass licking GOP ! Stop fuckin with our federal workforce!
Why wouldn't you believe this poster? They have proven themselves credible at this point. They have insider information as they are a federal agency themselves.
25k in exchange to kill a career, give up a pension & enter a job market flooded even more by fired feds? Not enough IMO unless you've already put in for retirement.
The regime just wants to make everyone numb to these illegal acts. Why does so much of the opposition still care about always following the law in combating the lawless?
Hope that you'll be telling them that it's probably another trick and that no money will be given for voluntary leave. I suspect AI shenanigans are part of this if we can't ID the e-mailer.
I think they have a goal to make vaccines optional. Insurance will no longer cover them, so lower income families won’t be able to afford them. The rich will of course still vaccinate their kids while spewing the same antivax bullshit. Just another way to keep low income families suffering.
The way vaccines work is by slowing the spread of disease. If only a few are vaccinated the disease spreads just fine and the few that are vaccinated keep getting exposed until they get infected.
Better immune response so less severe disease, though.
I don’t know why you just explained to me how vaccines work lol. I’m aware. I’m saying this administration wants to spread vaccine misinformation and restrict access to the poor while the rich still have access.
Can’t trust anything that comes out of DOGE or MAGA. Most of the time they have no actual authority, nor are they likely to actual give out money.
Like the felon in charge who is famous for stiffing his contractors, don’t take them at their word. They’re liars. All of them.
But you lose your paycheck, your health insurance, and the way social security and everything else is going, 25k to quit isn't actually going to get you very far.
plus have to sign up with a new private medical insurance company & on the application you will have to disclose all pre-existing conditions that have arose since you signed onto the fed gov plan. You will be astonished how high those premiums with be. $25K won't even touch how much you need.
HE IS DISMANTLING SOCIAL SECURITY, TOO. Got an email from them last night to 'check for a notification' and today the site isn't even WORKING. So will we even get paid this month? Anyone? Help? Thank you!
How does this affect their retirement, annual/sick leave, and right to return? I know Feds are smart enough to ask these questions before accepting any “”deal” from the world’s worse deal maker.
They are doing this because they can't easily fire them. Presumably, it affects all of those things the same way quitting would. Unless it's a buyout, there are no special provisions. HOLD THE LINE!
Do you mind me asking, have you hired a lawyer? If this is the way to go, go hard. I am not sure about your employment laws there, but you cannot just package out someone like this where I live. Best wishes and I am sure they really need you but fuckers prevail for now.
You don't have to like Melania, I despise her.
Still, don't use the a country attribute with the word "whore".
It is like saying a New York whore for Stefanek, or Georgia whore for MTG, or Colorado whore for Boebert - well, this last one is, maybe, correct?
I honestly think if we offered a lump sum for some of them to leave, some might take it. They obviously don't have a grasp on the long-term picture of things, and that is something to take advantage of.
$25k is the maximum statutory authorized amount for a VSIP (“voluntary separation incentive plan”). So it’s not about sufficient or not sufficient. People who take it waive seniority and right to unemployment benefits.
It's not just chaos. They want those pieces of land for profit. They are stealing from the American people. For some, camping in these woods are the only vacation their families can afford. We need to stand with the park service to save this land for the next generation
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The "run-it-like-a-company" people never want to pay gov early retirement incentives in the amount large companies pay!
How many recessions and pandemics do Americans need to have before they wake up?
They're trying to avoid giving anyone housing that currently belongs to outside investors, but imo if you aren't native, you shouldn't be able to buy shit here
State Tax (4.25%): ~$1,060
FICA (7.65%): ~$1,910
Total taxes: ~$6,000–$8,500
Take-home amount: ~$16,500–$19,000
It is a scam.
haven’t seen one yet observing that
this looks like a land grab in the making, to build a
MOTHERFUCKING TRUMP RESORT IN FUCKING YELLOWSTONE?
This is beyond the pale.
Yes.
We will see a Trump Resort in a Federal Park soon, folks.
Enjoy the View!
We are not at that point yet, but I don’t doubt it will happen
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The HHS oversees Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare is a federal program providing health coverage for individuals aged 65 and older, as well as some younger people with disabilities. It’s primarily funded through payroll taxes.
Tracking Drumpf cabinet confirmations – so far
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Two, the irony that crossing borders without permission anger is the platform Trump ran on to get here.
Three - were fighting. Don't you worry 😉
"I'm scared of my gov, maybe I could go to Canada (since it's the closest/best option I have)."
"hey, hey, hey, HEY now! What about what I, a Canadian, think about you coming here?"
It's so silly to respond like it's all about you 🤷🏼♀️
This document is indeed referenced on .gov
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366201/dl
Of course I can't validate any of the claims on my own, but the image shared is not itself disinfo.
We are here for Canada 🇨🇦
And I'm willing to bet the people wanting to relocate are not the Americans you want to keep out. Aka not maga
are well aware they moving to Canada is a dream that is very difficult to execute in reality. It’s really a compliment. And it doesn’t mean people aren’t fighting for their country.
How about it, @claudiasheinbaum.bsky.social ?
I’m staying. This is my Country too, damn it!
But...
Immigration always boosts economy.
+ US > CAN brain drain...
Googles
AI
2021 to 2031
Projection:
(0.92 actual, 0.30 natural)
"Migratory increase currently accounts for about two-thirds of Canada's population growth."
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-630-x/11-630-x2014001-eng.htm
https://bsky.app/profile/epicthundercat.bsky.social/post/3ljsafskkls2o
Many of us Never-MAGA's are in hell! Plz dont forget the Mtn states!
CO, NM
Hell, I am even learning French!
I am willing to fight for my country even if im old and broken.
I would do anything for my grands, they are innocent in all this.
They are little kids, just like the ones murdered in Gaza.
I hate all this
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/hhs-offers-25-000-buyout-to-workers-amid-trumps-workforce-cuts
amazing.
Fight or Die ✊️
I thought Trump's statement about position reductions being up to the Cabinet was only a cover for his SOTU blunder that Musk is leading DOGE.
So Elon is actually in charge since he has the final decision.
I would consider it abandoning your obligations to society if they did.
#BlasphemyBlaspheyou #Suzy #IfYou’veNever👀An🐘Ski #ThenYou’veNeverBeenOnAcid
RFK Jr: let’s get rid of more people in HHS
(worm crawls out)
It's disgusting
Be one of those “paid troublemakers” Trump hates do much!
State Tax (4.25%): ~$1,060
FICA (7.65%): ~$1,910
Total taxes: ~$6,000–$8,500
Take-home amount: ~$16,500–$19,000
Don’t do it!
🥄
Elon promised same at Twitter and it was just a scam.
Unless it’s an iron-clad contract with built-in Poison Pills (should they fail) AND all monies are in a 3rd party Escrow acct. - this will only favor trump, so don’t believe it.
It sounds like the same scam they’ve been trying earlier
https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/voluntary-separation-incentive-payments/
The funds are not approved and just like everyone else who has lost their jobs most are being hired back because what they’re doing is illegal!
No 👎
Those whom accept are traitors.
“Credible”, like when Hitler promised that after he took Austria, he wouldn’t want anymore territory.
25K is the legal limit they can offer.
Better get it lump sum.
The guy in charge is well known to stiff people he owes money to. (See U SAID lawsuits for work already done).
The way vaccines work is by slowing the spread of disease. If only a few are vaccinated the disease spreads just fine and the few that are vaccinated keep getting exposed until they get infected.
Better immune response so less severe disease, though.
But if they’re promising to pay you at some later date, do not take it.
Easy peasy…
hold out for 2 year's salary, minimum.
tax free
Like the felon in charge who is famous for stiffing his contractors, don’t take them at their word. They’re liars. All of them.
Or a Supreme Court Justice?
Or a couple of GOP Congressmen in purple districts?
Asking for those of us that want a functional country.
Still, don't use the a country attribute with the word "whore".
It is like saying a New York whore for Stefanek, or Georgia whore for MTG, or Colorado whore for Boebert - well, this last one is, maybe, correct?
THEY WILL NOT PAY.
Get a lawyer, get it in LEGAL WRITING, not in a bogus email.
Or better yet, just KEEP your job until they ILLEGALLY FIRE YOU
and then SUE THE BASTARDS !!
Don’t quit force them to fire you
from lowest 2 HIGHEST & back
the answer is just so plain & simple:
bought
threatened
or both