i think the bigger lesson is that ive been told my whole life, as a democrat, that we need like 65 senate seats and 300 house seats before dems can reasonably do anything. and trump has essentially dissolved the government in a month without even bothering to consult congress. i hate being lied to - ThreadSky

elchopo99.bsky.social • 2 days ago

i think the bigger lesson is that ive been told my whole life, as a democrat, that we need like 65 senate seats and 300 house seats before dems can reasonably do anything. and trump has essentially dissolved the government in a month without even bothering to consult congress. i hate being lied to

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golikehellmachine.com•2 days ago

i don’t actually believe that you don’t understand why these things are very different from one another

elchopo99.bsky.social•2 days ago

i mean, i understand that it is easier to tear things down in a lawless way. that doesnt make it any less frustrating that there is no pathway for democratic goals to be realized, because republicans can just nuke them on a whim

golikehellmachine.com•2 days ago

that is a more reasonable way to put it!

reallyreallyreal.bsky.social•2 days ago

There is, you vote for them continuously even when you don’t like them much because they’re still better than the other guys. Republican voters understood that and voted even when they didn’t like their guys. No Republican ever said “don’t threaten me with the Supreme Court” like some on the left.

reallyreallyreal.bsky.social•2 days ago

Nobody lied to you. Trump is doing tons of illegal shit because republicans seized every branch of government.

aubreygilleran.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's not a lie unless you wanted a Democratic dictator who just flagrantly broke the law all the time. I do not.

cooperlund.online•2 days ago

That’s the point that I’m making here. If you want to make something that works you have to play by the rules. If you’re just trying to rip out all the wires you don’t have to think about consequences.

elchopo99.bsky.social•2 days ago

are we sure we have to play by the rules to have something that works? the republican president is not respecting court orders. funds are still frozen. they arent playing by the rules to tear it down, why do dems have to play by the rules to make something better?

brandonbird.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes. It is easy to say, "I am not paying you" or "you don't have a job." But you can't just will employees or payroll or an org structure into existence.

brandonbird.bsky.social•2 days ago

Like if tomorrow Donald Trump declared, "Everybody has free health care! Paid for by the government!" would you actually have free health care? No. You'd go to the doctor and be like, "So Trump said he'd pay for this?" and they'd be like, "They didn't work that out with me."

ed3d.net•2 days ago

...because then it is extremely easy to tear it back down again and the courts will help do it

the rules are why we have anything built at all

elchopo99.bsky.social•2 days ago

in that case, i think elected democrats need to be honest with the american people. democratic goals and aims will never be possible. because dems will follow the rules when trying to build, and republicans will break all the rules and just bulldoze it into the ground when they are in power.

ed3d.net•2 days ago

every time a democrat has said that they have been punished for it

ed3d.net•2 days ago

the only solution on the table is - because democrats will not be out of power forever - to make the punishment for this set of illegal acts so profound that to attempt it again must be unconscionable

matthewraskob.bsky.social•2 days ago

“The rules” are not this extraneous thing or mere politesse. They are central to having a constitutional democracy.
Also, it is not clear that the Republican president is disregarding court orders at this time.

elchopo99.bsky.social•2 days ago

they are defying court orders

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-keeps-usaid-contracts-frozen-despite-court-order-2025-02-19/

matthewraskob.bsky.social•2 days ago

That is what the non-profits are alleging.

thenortyemp.bsky.social•2 days ago

The difference is easier to break things than to make things.

If Biden has wrote an executive order demanding healthcare for everyone, how would that actually be implemented without new funding appropriated by Congress?

maxp94.bsky.social•2 days ago

Apparently, by sending goons into the treasury and taking control of their payments systems

brandonbird.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sending goons to doctors' offices and demand they treat patients.

thenortyemp.bsky.social•2 days ago

That would take a lot of goons. Gonna be expensive to pay them all.

And the goon should just assault any doctor that doesn't want to treat patients for free?

Or is the govt gonna pay doctors directly? Gonna need money for that.

A Dem pres can just invent a bunch of money via executive decree.

thenortyemp.bsky.social•2 days ago

And then they would transfer those payments to who? Hospitals, doctors, or patients? And then where would they take the money from?

Even if it could work, I would still be against such an illegal measure.

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