I'm ignoring most replies to this now since everyone has poster's madness but if you call rap or hip hop music "cRap" please feel free to jump off a bridge thanks
That's not me
I'm not mean.
But I have a question. I'm a Boomer, recently retired high school teacher. Is KLamar's performance likely to be revolutionary? Because ✌️ ❤️ 🎶
Back in the 80/90s, when this shit started, I would try to get them to come to a school board meeting to see about increasing the music education budget. The kids were only rapping because we weren’t teaching them to play instruments anymore. Fascinating to see their very confused faces.
This is the echo of history. That stern little mustache, after a 90-year journey, landed on the western coast of the Atlantic and transformed into frenzied orange hair.
Not excusing nazi anti Blackness (it was out of sight to Jesse Owens in his visit) but Jesse Owens was very vocal about how it was the US president that snubbed him.
He was barred from competing afterwards, but befriended German silver Lutz Lang for life.
necessarilly; they're dence, complicated, nuanced lyrics, and we don't all process info or input the same).
So, I appreciated that it was quality (as much based on responses of the audio processors I watched it with). And, I will need to go back and read the lyrics to fully appreciate it 🤷♀️
It was visually interesting, but I think culturally I am behind. I also don't care much, but recognize that it has meaning for a lot of folk. When I asked, where are the subtitles? a Black dude turned to me and said, "I can't understand it either" and I felt better about being in the dark.
I honestly wasn't kidding. When I started hearing his name in conjunction with the super bowl, I thought he was a football player. Then I realized he had something to do with music. Clearly, I'm not a rap fan.
His diss tracks against another rapper (Drake) got a lot of non hip hop attention this summer, which compounds the hope that he will say something particularly scathing & memorable today
And as Kendrick Lamar slams the racist nazis and takes a knee, the camera spotlights Capt MAGA to capture his response… will he pretend he doesn’t know he’s being dissed and keep dancing like the pathetic clown he is?
I hope he doesn't because I don't want a Black person putting themselves in harm's way when politicians are cowering. An example will be made of him, and Black people aren't why VP Trump is here.
Let Taylor Swift or someone European American speak out. The worst is a slap on the wrist in punishment
My biggest hope for the #SuperBowl is that Kendrick performs "Not Like Us" but changes the bars to be about Trump but keeps the "A Minoooooor" part and references Trump at Miss Teen USA. and for the 🦅s to win. #GoBirds!
I’m an old metalhead just trying to get along, and even I know that rap artists tell hard truths. I hope Kendrick Lamar takes the opportunity in front of the felon and the American people, and the world, to tell it like it is!! ✊✊✊✊
I get it, I really do. But honestly, with all of the people in the news media and those elected officials who are supposed to care about decency and honesty, instead we’re pinning our hopes on a guy who’s just trying to sell some albums?
Reminds me of how much I wished Taylor Swift would have spoken out more on the campaign trail to help Kamala get elected. She didn’t, she only said that she would vote for her (and donated funds). I was an idiot to think that these famous musicians would jeopardize their standing with the fans. 🙄
If you're thinking about him saying/doing something towards Trump, never gonna happen lmao. Last thing the industry darling is going to do is say something against him lmao.
You can bet your ass everyone with even a slight chance of being heard is being warned. Alot of em are trumpers anyway. But those that arent love their $$$ more then their consciousness.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Not sure a rap crapper will have the title of being a musician, since they aren't technically musicians, let alone the most important one of all time. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The friggin NFL removed End Racism from the end zones! I'm doing my part by boycotting the game. I have serious doubts that the ratings will actually be affected...I hope they are. The lemmings in the US who are on autopilot will watch the game because...DUH that's what we do on Stupid Bowl Sunday.
this identity politics is what got us here. It’s so tiring, old and overly simplistic. It’s neo-liberal idiocy and it’s what gave rise to Trump.. if you see everything through the eyes of a persons gender, race, etc. then you’re part of the problem
You can't deny the fact that there's racism or sexism, though. If the bigots would stop seeing things that way, then minorities could stop "identity politics." We all wish we didn't have to have a black history month or price festivals. but there are too many bigots, so we need to make a stand.
That’s not what I mean. It’s when a person puts identity at the forefront of every topic, every conversation, every issue— even when it isn’t warranted. That’s what’s been happening; which is the exact opposite of the initiatives during the civil rights movement. It doesn’t solve anything
What doesn't solve anything is acting like "identity politics"isn't why we're here.Not wanting a Black man to assume all responsibility to fix a problem that European Americans caused isn't what's holding us back.
What's holding us back is that people want a Black person to fight & be the face
I don’t care if Kendrick says anything about it at all. I don’t think a celebrity is going to make a bit of difference. It working class people who have all the power. Identity politics keeps us divided and is a tool of the corporate class to prevent real change.
Same. I've seen nothing but European Americans desiring KDot to be a savior or heavy activist, but I'm not seeing this smoke for Taylor Swift. She's a billionaire. I'm not even seeing people this active towards their own state reps 🤦🏾♀️
u think ur being progressive w these beliefs, when in reality ur hampering opportunities for time sensitive resistance because you dreamed up a better aesthetic.
the controlling class caused the situation were in, no matter their religion race or gender. the working class must resist them, no matter their religion race or gender.
Ignoring race and jumping straight to class absolves people of addressing the history of racism in classism. If you’re clamoring for a black artist to make a statement but not demanding white artists do the same it’s hypocritical. Celebrities won’t save us and we shouldn’t expect them to.
addressing history shouldnt take precedent over current action.
im not “clamoring for a black artist to make a statement”, the artist who has been given the platform where a statement can be made to great effect just is black. id want any artist performing at half in front of Trump to do the same.
obviously i am not calling kendrick working class, but those with means who advance the causes of those without with sincerity and genuine commitment should be supported in their efforts.
Umm, Trump won because a much higher percentage of black and brown men voted for a raping racist Republican, rather than elect a woman to be President.
Oh? Most of the demographic results I've seen is that a higher number of brown and black MEN did not want a woman to be president. So they voted GOP much higher percentage compared to 2020.
Of course, a whole lot of white men don't want a woman to be president, either, but they always vote GOP.
I'm sorry Sir but if we wait for someone one white and male to stand up for the US it's game over. No white male cares enough to do so. Let me amend that. No white male they would listen to. It needs to be numbers of the oppressed to stand up and say. Get the fuck out of here. Period.
Resist libs are so cringe. Kendrick is not releasing a diss album against the president at the most corporate event of the year lmao. Stop looking to billion dollar productions to lead you.
Yes, we all know what you’re talking about. Let’s hope he actually does it though but I’m not watching it live. F Trump but Kendrick, fold that MFr though. Do a Miles Davis and turn your back to him while you perform!
He doesn't even need to change the lyrics. He can just point at the person to whom they apply really really well who also happens to currently be the president.
If you think that a songwriter, whose songs are almost always full of misogyny, swearing & explicit sexual lyrics, qualifies him to be an important "american" musician, you have screwed up values. Kids are exposed to this garbage.
Interesting that you capitalize his name, but not "america."
Not a racist. What's with that?
As for Lamar's songs, I've some in my playlist for the high school kids on my school bus: All the Stars (clean version), America Has a Problem, Bad Blood (Swift), Humble, Loyalty, Luther... I have a hip hop playlist for HS boys sports teams, but clean versions.
Perhaps look at my post and you'll see that we aren't very different in what matters to us.
I left Xhitter for Bluesky because there's less anger & hate. I'm all in favour of discussion, opinions, & critiques, but I don't have any patience for mindless crap like "shut up."
Not like rap & hip hop. I've been listening to music since rock & roll came out in the '50s. I've got a library of 13,000+ songs.
You think lyrics like these in thousands of songs on Spotify & Apple Music are ok for impressionable young boys & girls just in to puberty? https://genius.com/Nle-choppa-gang-baby-lyrics
I think Taylor Swift has already done that. Nobody since the Beatles has generated such an adoring, massive fan base, her repertoire is immense, & she's a brilliant lyricist & composer.
I'm not an adoring fan, but I have huge respect for her, & she has a number of songs that I really like.
Curious that YOU bring up race. I listen to music that I think is interesting & good. I don't care what colour their skin is.
I drive school bus in my retirement & have playlists for my AM & PM runs (gr. 7-9, 10-12), & every age group for field trips. Here's a small sample of my music & playlists.
I agree about organizing. She donated massive amounts to Harris' campaign & dozens of other causes quietly.
With the violent nature of the MAGA morons, people have to be very careful, including pols & journos. Trump & Pres Musk have control of gov't, FBI, CIA, SCOTUS, DOJ, military... It's fascism!
No, but neither will being imprisoned. Trump won't hesitate to have protestors shot, to create fear of even protesting or speaking out. Case in point, Nazi Germany.
Nonetheless, people DO have to protest, speak out, fight for a return to democracy. Once the economy collapses, people will rebel.
I'm a fan, just not an adoring fan. Her lyrics and compositions are brilliant, & will go down in history as one of the most sophisticated songwriter. She donated $10 mil to the fire fund for LA, donates massive amounts to many great causes without any fanfare, just a sense of generosity & kindness.
Kendrick expresses his roots and truth as a Compton baddy. He knows what to do just like Lady Gaga crushed Born This Way. They’re not like us (who cherish our freedom). Can’t wait to watch it tomorrow.
I hope he doesn't reference Trump directly. I suspect that Trump is hoping for a controversy that overwhelms the game.
Just ignore him and try to make him look/feel small or out of place.
When Kamala chose the campaign slogan “We are not going back” it meant SO much more than women’s rights and abortion. Unfortunately, many couldn’t see the whole picture. But Kendrick understood well in advance…why? Because history should never repeat itself!
I’m not sure anyone said he was the best American musician ever. But he was the perfect person to perform for the target audience of people who are actively dismantling our government brick by brick.
People are suffering and even dying, the whole social, cultural and economic fabric of the US is threatened, and much of the world, the environmental disaster is accelerating because of the supreme hubris of the US and its current leaders.
Music doesn't matter any more.
the value of art is timeless, what we make today inspires people to get up and fight again tomorrow, and one day it will be testament to the people who were here and the values we held precious
Counterpoint: music and art matter more than ever. In the dark times we need hope and music/art can provide both. During slavery my ancestors sang songs to help them get through the day and this isn’t close to that.
It's what I've been thinking since it was announced he'd be doing it. Initially kinda disappointed, but then hopeful that he might do something with the spotlight.
Ella Fitzgerald, Chuck Berry, Duke Ellington, Michael Jackson, Aaron Copeland, Leonard Bernstein, Willie Nelson, George Gershwin, Irving Berlin, Louie Armstrong, Bob Dylan, Miles Davis, Stephen Sondheim, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Johnny Cash, Beyoncé, and Prince would all like a word. 🙄
I think that's precisely why Trump decided to attend, to try to stave off any attempts by Kendrick to say something against him. The real faceoff is not between the Eagles and Chiefs. It's between Kendrick and Donald.
@kendricklamar.bsky.social will you stand up to the fascists and use your platform? Be our hero, unlike #snoop. Maybe a diss track for trump and Elonia?
Why are people pinning some set of hero expectations to this man? There are 1000’s of others actually in positions to be heroic but are choosing not to be so.
This legitimately makes me wonder if he will even be allowed a hot mic, given what’s happening, or if they’ve been in negotiation with his management and label to force him to lip sync…
it could be the start of the revolution, sure. but claiming that “black power” could start the /trans/ revolution is a bit,, odd. and i say that as a trans person.
it’s expecting Black people to hold the line for them and it’s something a lot of white people do, trans or not. Look at a lot of these replies and it’s just projection. If we had gotten homegrown movements like this within the white community we would not be here
Uh no. If he were to say Black Power, that's what it implies. BLACK empowerment for the black race. Whereas we feel for other marginalized groups, we are ALL we've got.
So....nah. Develop your own clarion call. Dont be so presumptuous as to piggyback ours nor its power.
You aren’t allowed to do any of that, there’s nothing but transphobia coming from you here, I have never done anything bad to PoCs so the fact you’re speaking to me this way is unacceptable
You might not like the delivery of my message, but the fact of the matter is that what I responded to was extremely flaccid and extremely gay. I say this as someone who would prefer to see gay sex on my timeline than all these liberal fever dreams about some pop star spanking the president
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I'm not mean.
But I have a question. I'm a Boomer, recently retired high school teacher. Is KLamar's performance likely to be revolutionary? Because ✌️ ❤️ 🎶
I mean if bro wanna go broke doing it, do him.
He was barred from competing afterwards, but befriended German silver Lutz Lang for life.
https://bsky.app/profile/hokutoandy.bsky.social/post/3li22wlbzfc22
Won
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So yeah
Today is just window dressing
But do go on.
#superbowl
#verifythevote
#truthmatters
https://youtu.be/WOQ-GxJyJN4
So, I plan to look up the lyrics and rewatch. (Since I knew it was coming, *I* probly shld have known better and done some of this ahead of time...
Still. That said.
I just plan to look up lyrics, and watch it again.
I can still appreciate *that* it was skillfully done, that it was an amazing performance.
And. There's no shame in just not parsing the lyrics. (Not
So, I appreciated that it was quality (as much based on responses of the audio processors I watched it with). And, I will need to go back and read the lyrics to fully appreciate it 🤷♀️
He's a great musician, but influencers do not have any obligation to use their fame as influences.
Oh please
Oh please
Let Taylor Swift or someone European American speak out. The worst is a slap on the wrist in punishment
Would be cool if he made a statement, but it won't be as great as Janet Jackson's tittie!
Kendrick Lamar FTW
stfu
Since white (mostly male) Americans got us in this situation, maybe we shouldn’t expect a black man to immolate himself to scream out our defiance.
People that look like me caused this, someone that looks like me should pay the price for fixing it.
What's holding us back is that people want a Black person to fight & be the face
Call on an European American to be your voice, but cease all expectations for Black people to do it.
im not “clamoring for a black artist to make a statement”, the artist who has been given the platform where a statement can be made to great effect just is black. id want any artist performing at half in front of Trump to do the same.
Of course, a whole lot of white men don't want a woman to be president, either, but they always vote GOP.
If Dot wants to use his voice in this moment he surely doesn’t need anyone’s permission.
I’m saying white liberal Americans shouldn’t EXPECT a black man to shoulder the burden and consequences of cleaning up this mess we created.
But VERBALLY, from a STATEMENT kind of view … HE COULD BE a GIANT.
Let’s hope he gives a fuck about the NFL contract.
Interesting that you capitalize his name, but not "america."
As for Lamar's songs, I've some in my playlist for the high school kids on my school bus: All the Stars (clean version), America Has a Problem, Bad Blood (Swift), Humble, Loyalty, Luther... I have a hip hop playlist for HS boys sports teams, but clean versions.
I left Xhitter for Bluesky because there's less anger & hate. I'm all in favour of discussion, opinions, & critiques, but I don't have any patience for mindless crap like "shut up."
You think lyrics like these in thousands of songs on Spotify & Apple Music are ok for impressionable young boys & girls just in to puberty?
https://genius.com/Nle-choppa-gang-baby-lyrics
I'm not an adoring fan, but I have huge respect for her, & she has a number of songs that I really like.
Very unsurprising, lmao.
I drive school bus in my retirement & have playlists for my AM & PM runs (gr. 7-9, 10-12), & every age group for field trips. Here's a small sample of my music & playlists.
With the violent nature of the MAGA morons, people have to be very careful, including pols & journos. Trump & Pres Musk have control of gov't, FBI, CIA, SCOTUS, DOJ, military... It's fascism!
Nonetheless, people DO have to protest, speak out, fight for a return to democracy. Once the economy collapses, people will rebel.
Just ignore him and try to make him look/feel small or out of place.
You’re a fckin loser if you think that’s what he’s about.
Get your ass in line and fckin LISTEN, take notes and LEARN…
Keep your condescending comments to yourself fck boy..
Fuck, yes!
Music doesn't matter any more.
the value of art is timeless, what we make today inspires people to get up and fight again tomorrow, and one day it will be testament to the people who were here and the values we held precious
art is more important now than ever
Born in the USA is song about the rejection of Vietnam Veterans, turned ( against its composer's wishes) into nationalistic triumphalism.
It does to me, Sparky. You do you.
*notice the sarcasm?
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Cue Kendrick Lamar…. 🥱😴
People are lazy and clawing for someone else to be the change. Stop looking for a savior, and join movements that help people.
https://youtu.be/0Y0ffn7eo8k
This is America after all.
So....nah. Develop your own clarion call. Dont be so presumptuous as to piggyback ours nor its power.
Inappropriate.
No👏🏿 you 👏🏿can't. You are NOT like us. Stop it.
You don't even hear yourself. 😅😅