He would fail the character test required of criminals wanting to enter Australia.
I would expect large protests from everywhere other than Murdoch's propaganda outlets if he tried.
MAGA would not be welcomed here
Sadly true Sue.
Despite Murdoch's efforts sky news (fox news Australian version) don't have quiet the following the American version does and Australia is not as religious as America.
Hopefully our culture is different enough they remain on the fringe of the lnp.
I hate that those citizens are safer than we are right now. I don't hate them, but I'm mad an jealous at the fact that their government is ACTUALLY protecting them from foreign criminals in positions of power.
it actually wont be like that in these countries. im in australia.. and once hes sworn in he’ll have diplomatic immunity meaning he can enter the country. as it stands now though, he wouldnt be able to.
Nah man. We’re going to enforce this. We can’t have him attempting to enter Aus! Although if Dutton wins next year he’ll roll out the red carpet for this rapist criminal.
i dont think australia will have a choice to be honest. ultimately, it comes down to the minister - and theyre always going to let a US president in. sack of shit or not. we rely heavily on the US for military support if one of our neighbours decided to try something in our corner of the world.
A lot of people don't realize this. Just because he is a felon, doesn't mean he won't be able to enter other countries legally. He'll do it under diplomacy laws.
yeah, 100%. thats the reality of it. the US president (even if they are a sack of shit) are always going to be invited or attend functions / summits in ally countries.
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited.
How can he be a President if he is not allowed to enter all these countries? What a 💩 show we are in for. But he will probably be allowed in all dictator rule countries😡
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited.
Maybe he will have diplomatic immunity after he is sworn in but there are criminals in positions of power that matter greatly now. Netanyahu was embraced by the U.S. and now our own President is a criminal and we are not protected from him while other countries do still protect their people. Not us.
i think theres differing opinions. im not sure of the actual law.. but i have seen both sides raised as valid points. some claim that once the jury verdict is read out finding guilt that they are convicted. others say it isnt formally a conviction until after sentencing.
all the legacy media said “convicted felon,” and im not sure they would have done that unless it was accurate.. because they may open themselves to lawsuits?
As a Brit I know the UK will ignore this to get a free trade deal.
But with Boris Johnson, a trade deal failed because Brits won't eat chlorine washed chicken or hormone fed beef.
Can't see that changing tbh.
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited.
unfortunately, at the moment that is the case but once he’s sworn in he’ll have some form of diplomatic immunity which i believe extends to entry requirements providing they are invited to the country.
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited to any of them.
oh 100%. he shouldnt be.. but i think the reality is he will be. the US - AU alliance is something we rely on heavily for military support if needed. not to mention they have so much intelligence infrastructure here.
i dont want him here; but i think we’re beholden to the US.
i think we never thought thered be such a madman at the helm in the US - so them being an ally was never an issue. now there’ll be conflicts of interests.
I agree. Can we limit the madman not to do anything mad? That is the big question.
He is not off to a good start. Announcing tariffs that will lead to trade wars all over. Asking/"researching" Britain on their stand against Europe in a trade war is just the latest.
Other countries aren’t gaslit or distracted by red herrings like our attempts to throw a huge party, eat our turkey, or dance to "YMCA" — they see right through it!
THEY KNOW we voted for a sex offender and felon out in bail to be our President!
I think she actually should get some recognition as the first nude model to be first, umm, lady. And she should keep an eye on her drink if Hegseth is lurking def
I agree, but it's a quote: Orangino stated that he's going to do so. The fact that it's allowed or not will be debated, count on it. Nothing in US can surprise me anymore, coz the country I knew seems to have dropped into a parallel universe.
I have fond memories of the time convicted felon, Martha Stewart was denied entry into Canada. She was booked to attend Howard Dill's annual Pumpkin Festival in the small town of Windsor, Nova Scotia. Not sure if she was gonna compete in the giant pumpkin regatta or just judge the pies.
I'm pretty sure that the Orange POS will end up being able to enter all countries. But it is an unsettled legal issue at this point. Snopes did a decent review of the issue.
This tariffs idiocy is far more complicated than simply encouraging Americans to only buy American. Just look at the back and forth building American cars that include parts and work on both sides of both borders - with Canada and Mexico. 45 doesn't have the common sense God gave a gnat.
If someone is classed as a convicted felon until their sentence has been fulfilled but Trump's not going to be receiving a sentence for the crimes he's been found guilty of, does that mean he will permanently be classed as a convicted felon by other countries?
😂 a week before the election he simulated a microphone BJ and Maga was fine with it. I can’t imagine any other President or Presidential candidate doing something like this surviving it.
I'm amazed at how many don't understand this concept. Over on that other place, sooo many arguing that if the orange stain hasn't been sentenced, he's not convicted. duh.
‘Conviction’ is the occurrence of three events: a guilty verdict, sentencing, and exhaustion of appeals. At least according to California statute. Look, he’s a criminal scumbag, but our side is supposed to be more accurate; and just because we don’t like something doesn’t make it untrue.
Yep, and ‘conviction’ is the occurrence of three events: a guilty verdict, sentencing, and exhaustion of appeals. At least according to California statute. Look, he’s a criminal scumbag but our side is supposed to be more accurate; and just because we don’t like something doesn’t make it untrue.
No. Conviction is the finding of guilt by the jury. Sentencing is when the punishment is decided. Appeals happen after both of those steps.
He has already been convicted.
He hasn’t been sentenced.
He can’t even start appealing the verdict until after being sentenced.
Trump is a felon out on bail.
I am in tears. But, yes that is probably true. Canada doesn't allow felons even to participate in politics.
Why do Americans allow a felon to participate and become a president?
Oddly, it's a safeguard.
If a criminal record prevented a run for office and you don't like a candidate, make up charges and shop for a friendly judge until they are a criminal.
Founders foolishly didn't think people would be stupid enough to elect insurrectionist felons for President.
Americans don't. Our SCOTUS did the damage. Our Constitution doesn't allow someone who incited an insurrection to even run for election, let alone serve. This is how far America has fallen.
While true about not allowing an insurrectionist to be on the ballot. There is no provision to prevent a convicted felon from running. Technically you could run while in prison.
The real short sightedness was the Senate not voting to impeach for being an insurrectionist.
Thanks for the clarification of the terminology and process. There was still a vote in the Senate to convict him, that would have removed him from running for office ever again. They chose not to, as his term was at an end.
They thought the electoral college would protect the US from dumb / cultish voters. That didn't work, so the US should create some standards for the job.
What?! How would they feed themselves? Where would they live? This would cause society to have to take care of them for the rest of their lives; whether it’s through welfare or having to go back to prison, because they had to steal for survival. Idiotic, brain dead, take.
And true. I wonder if Trumps pick for Ambassador to France, convicted felon Charles Kushner will be allowed to travel to France. Or does a presidential pardon just make it all go away?
Under Article 9 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, a receiving state may "at any time and without having to explain its decision" declare any member of a diplomatic staff persona non grata. A person so declared is considered unacceptable and is usually recalled to their home nation.
Even after receiving a pardon, a person is still technically considered a felon because a pardon does not erase the criminal conviction from their record; it only removes some legal disabilities associated with that conviction, meaning they must still disclose their past felony.
Yes, a pardoned felon can generally travel to France, as the country does not routinely deny entry based solely on a past criminal record, especially if the conviction is pardoned and considered rehabilitated;
This really is funny, but unfortunately, those nations will see Trump in his function as POTUS, and they will let POTUS travel to their country, regardless of what Private Citizen Trump has done.
Strictly diplomacy for his cherished country’s upcoming trade deals & hoping to stave off insane cuts to Ukraine’s defence and NATOs value.
No one is more disgusted with the tyRump, he is psychologically damaged so must be handled - carefully. Scary times.
I agree! The Canadian PM serves and protects his nation and citizens. Direct confrontation with the felon will not work. Fake praises may even soften the felon. The PM is using sober diplomacy for the benefit of his constituents.
No he isn’t … he is taking care of business for Canadians taxpayers! One step at a time. Trump only thinks of himself and the money he will put in his own pocket.
I miss the days where this post would have been up on X, and all the cultist would have turned their secret decoder rings around and evolved into international law experts and argued that it is not true. Those were good times. lol
If we survive this, we are going to have a very long list of things that need to be fixed so this sh1t can't happen again. If we still have a democracy..
I think it may be important to focus on why all of these things are prohibited for people convicted of felonies rather than doubling up against people who have served the time and are humans who need to navigate the world.
Trump is a terrible human being but it's not bc he's a convicted felon.
And yet, all we see is "He's a convicted felon!!!" I agree, but supposed progressives call for continued revocation of civil rights. As if everyone convicted of a felony committed the crime (he did) and as if the justice system is just. It is not. Talk about his actions, not a jury decision.
His actions?
He could grope his daughter on live TV and R would still vote for him. He IS mentioned in the Epstein hell... but thats OK for R because being a pedo isn't serious if you are a Republican.
But hey, at least a politician isn't POTUS right? Nothing he did or will do can change R now.
There is no if. Americans are not pushovers and we are NOT like other nations. Citizens have arms here. I believe that after the MAGAS realize the ruse, T & Co will lose their validity & hold on half of America. But it’s going to take time & suffering w what’s coming. We will survive this.
You don't like "the optics" of a Prime Minister attempting to position his country favorably with the president elect of his neighboring country? The only "optics" here are that Trudeau does what he was elected to do- negotiate for Canada's best interests.
No world leader should be meeting Trump at Mar A Lago. It’s a symbolic alt-government locale for trump corruption. Not a good look for a legit world leader. WE know it’s because Trump is a felon and can’t go to Canada, but Trumpers don’t, and will see it as a power play by Trump.
Besides the fact that Canada has spoken ill of Mexico, she’s right. It looks like Canada is saving face and kissing the ring to side with Trump. Wouldn’t doubt if we hear that Canada is now allying with the US against Mexico.
Looks to me like Trudeau flew down to Florida because Canada doesn't admit convicted felons into the country.
And OF COURSE Canada is going to try to have a working relationship with Trump. WE didn't vote for him, but we have to deal with his shit anyway. Thanks 🇺🇲
Trudeau is the bet PM we have had in decades.
He didn't get that by being stupid.
He thinks circles around most people.
Let him do his thing.
Like he did last time, the stupid Americans voted for a fascist.
We'll get by.
Unfortunately diplomacy must still be played - carefully. Also, we are fighting the amerivangelical movement in Canada, they are using trans people, the propaganda is horrible - they have convinced many Muslim immigrants that trans will destroy their new country believing maple mini-trump Poilievre.
Pfffft. Trump negotiates in his own best interests and leaders - such as JT - are left scrambling. JT may have intent to negotiate for Canada’s best interests but may not be in a position to actually do so. Action - reaction. Trump wants all to rise when he enters the room.
It's also true. I wonder if Charles Kushner, Trump's choice for ambassador to France, who was convicted of a felony, will be permitted to enter France. Or would it all disappear with a presidential pardon? 😲
Yup, Maple MAGA, Temu Trump, Timbit Trump.
Poilievre is whiny AF.
Refuses to get security clearance- which really needs to be a requirement standard for party leaders.
CONservatives in 🇨🇦 are blue & Republican ideology.
So the next 4 years are gonna be a crucial test for Canada and Mexico in that can we wait for the economic genius to leave office or do we start looking to other markets? Exploring other market places is a must given the volatility of the orange idiot. Can’t rely on the US now that he’s returning.
Oh you haven’t heard, he’s redoing how the law and government works. He is currently reviewing how to make this possible and I plans on having it completed by 12/8/2024, yes, you read that right, one week. He has plans to go to the last @taylorswifteras.bsky.social concert, he’s a huge fan
MAGA think they’ll get jobs for Trump loyalists now that they could never get otherwise b/c they don’t have the qualifications, knowledge or experience to get by merit, so they’re expecting their brown-nosing subservience will enrich them instead.
Most of that was due to COVID. The market doesn't like instability. And his presidency will be nothing but that with no guard rails. Absolutely sinks if I was old enough. I would pull my money out of the 401k.
Walmart bowed down to far right influencer Robby Starbuck who made threats if Walmart didn't cease its diversity policies. Walmart needs to be boycotted along with Robby Starbuck.
And good luck rebuilding after hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, etc. You know, all those hoaxy climate change events. And you don't wanna know about the oil and gas, either.
In the U.S., Kirkland toilet paper is harvested and manufactured not too far from Kirkland, Washington, the birthplace of Costco itself and the namesake of the Kirkland brand. Kirkland toilet paper is sourced from Canada's boreal forest and processed within Canada before it hits Costco locations
I read the other day that they were not going ahead with them. Even if he does step down after his term of office he won’t be serving any time. If they had done this before the election it wouldn’t have happened. Mind you, I want YOU to be right!
Wouldn't that just be the end all if his demented state takes him out, wondering the grounds, thinking he's at Mara loco resort. We can't make this movie up! It's better than fiction.
The really funny part is showing how ignorant the MagaMorons who think it is because Trump is toooo important to travel to Canada and not because he would be prohibited from entering Canada being a convicted FELON x 34!
the “High Speed Train” is more electric than high speed. USA 100% fossil fuel diesel rail and 100% fossil fuel kerosene travel… across the ocean… while China is drilling the Himalayas and ***Biden*** is drilling shale… USA is a system for exploitation of resources as fast as possible. $$$.
Private Citizen ex-Potus 45 is not "YET" Potus 47.
52 days and counting.
Not forgetting that the average lifespan of the American male is 70 years. trumpie is on the wrong side age wise.
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If Potus elect 47 were to not be able to meet the time of the 20th day in 2025. Surely the Secretary of State would call Congress to make a decision on a new Presidential elections.
The 2nd position is only if the 1st is in the position of Potus.
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I would expect large protests from everywhere other than Murdoch's propaganda outlets if he tried.
MAGA would not be welcomed here
Despite Murdoch's efforts sky news (fox news Australian version) don't have quiet the following the American version does and Australia is not as religious as America.
Hopefully our culture is different enough they remain on the fringe of the lnp.
Americas coming president as a convicted felon is not allowed entrace to 38 countries to protect their citizens - includes:
- Canada
- Australia
- Japan
- New Zealand
- United Kingdom
A total embarrassment for America.
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/donald-trump-felon-travel-38-countries
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited.
Btw. another place where he screwed the locals and is very, very hated: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68069245
I suppose I could really throw people off by telling them that Scotland is also part of Great Britain 🤣
I Hope our govt doesn't go soft about it!
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited.
But with Boris Johnson, a trade deal failed because Brits won't eat chlorine washed chicken or hormone fed beef.
Can't see that changing tbh.
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited.
He's a bully... to his allies!
Prefer we didn't have his foot on our necks.
Yes, imo we have to remove his foot from Europe's necks. Europe has to gain indepence of America.
So Europe needs to build a defence strong enough to resist the evil from East without America. And build it based on European weapon systems.
Trump is bad news in any possible context. If he p*sses on European security as announced by legalizing Russian landgrabs in Ukraine, he hopefully won't be invited to any of them.
i dont want him here; but i think we’re beholden to the US.
He is not off to a good start. Announcing tariffs that will lead to trade wars all over. Asking/"researching" Britain on their stand against Europe in a trade war is just the latest.
THEY KNOW we voted for a sex offender and felon out in bail to be our President!
Yep - proud flag waving americans. Got conned.
But I’m not holding my breath.
So far the only person who’s stood up to his BS is the 1st female president of Mexico. Women have balls and should rule the world.
This doesn’t mean there aren’t shitty women out there. But I personally think that good women are better leaders, regardless of color.
Canada is just as bad.
Forever.
There's quite a few countries Trump won't be able to go to .....
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/06/12/trump-banned-from-37-countries/
Eh
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If someone is classed as a convicted felon until their sentence has been fulfilled but Trump's not going to be receiving a sentence for the crimes he's been found guilty of, does that mean he will permanently be classed as a convicted felon by other countries?
No!
It says 'after days of meeting with his people, Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau jumped on a plane to FL, blah blah..."
Maddening that they did not mention the Rest of the story.
This is why I’m pissed at Juan
Merchan.
But for reference, under CA law, convicted = guilty verdict + sentencing + exhaustion of appeals.
Think about it from the perspective of preserving the civil rights of convicts.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-convicted-felonies/
https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/criminal-procedure-law/cpl-sect-1-20/
He has already been convicted.
He hasn’t been sentenced.
He can’t even start appealing the verdict until after being sentenced.
Trump is a felon out on bail.
Why do Americans allow a felon to participate and become a president?
If a criminal record prevented a run for office and you don't like a candidate, make up charges and shop for a friendly judge until they are a criminal.
Founders foolishly didn't think people would be stupid enough to elect insurrectionist felons for President.
The real short sightedness was the Senate not voting to impeach for being an insurrectionist.
Vive le Republique!
I wish the world didn't work that way.
No one is more disgusted with the tyRump, he is psychologically damaged so must be handled - carefully. Scary times.
wtaf 😳
Trump is a terrible human being but it's not bc he's a convicted felon.
He could grope his daughter on live TV and R would still vote for him. He IS mentioned in the Epstein hell... but thats OK for R because being a pedo isn't serious if you are a Republican.
But hey, at least a politician isn't POTUS right? Nothing he did or will do can change R now.
And OF COURSE Canada is going to try to have a working relationship with Trump. WE didn't vote for him, but we have to deal with his shit anyway. Thanks 🇺🇲
He didn't get that by being stupid.
He thinks circles around most people.
Let him do his thing.
Like he did last time, the stupid Americans voted for a fascist.
We'll get by.
I can' t fathom how MAGA squares this.
When he can not enter Canada as a convicted felon.
Nailed it, Roddy!
Poilievre is whiny AF.
Refuses to get security clearance- which really needs to be a requirement standard for party leaders.
CONservatives in 🇨🇦 are blue & Republican ideology.
Where does "Temu" and "Timbit" come from?
It's like 45 is an infectious disease!!
USA is entirely missing reliability and consistency in order to make Trade relations work. Disruptive economic influence.
If there is a next time
52 days and counting.
Not forgetting that the average lifespan of the American male is 70 years. trumpie is on the wrong side age wise.
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The 2nd position is only if the 1st is in the position of Potus.
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However, I'm considering modifying this moniker to HRM45, in deference to the Rogue Six of the SCOTUS.
("HRM" = His Royal Majesty . . . or maybe His Royal Highness. Whattaya think?)
All. Hail 47
All. Hail. The Great elon musk.
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I think not.