So sad it is. If it wasn’t for birth right citizenship my mother and her brother would not have been citizens. She had 6 children who contributed to this country. Those 6 children produced 17 grand children who all contribute to this country.
Come on, George. I love your posts for their insight, humor and calling it like it is. You missed it here. Only one parent needs to be a citizen to claim birth right.
Sadly, because the orange fucknugget was a US citizen when his mutants were born, the 'birthright' issue doesn't count, regardless of their mothers status.
Idk what they truly mean they be like you have kids even in socioeconomic circumstances which is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever been told by the far right. Then they say those kids born aren’t us citizens and they’ll deport. So where do our unwanted and/or unplanned non citizen born children go?!
What does he care - rules never apply to:
he who shall remain nameless, characterless, integrity-less, truthless, health-less and, increasingly brainless.
If this does go ahead, just report every suspicious MAGA/Republican to the ICE tip line. I'm sure they have to check every report. They will be overwhelmed, bring the chaos...
I for one think that’s a good thing. The US is one very few countries that still do this but it’s no longer necessary. I think Trump’s kids would still be American because typically it follow the status the parents.
75 countries have some form of birthright citizenship and about 35 have unrestricted birthright citizenship. Trump's kids maybe ok based on their father's status only.
That’s not correct. There are 8! US, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and Venezuela. In some countries in Europe it varies based on several factors but just being born doesn’t do it.
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Yeah, I've sen a lot of comments to that regard. But WHY is it only dependent on the father, FFS!? The mother carried and bore them, why doesn't she matter? ::sigh::
It just has to be one of the parents that is a US citizen. I think people are saying father because we are talking about Mr. Trump and he was a US citizen when four of his children were born in the US to mothers who were not yet US citizens.
We need Americans to learn about jury nullification. If our hero gets caught here, or for the next one, we need these cases nullified so we can continue to clean. Please help explain to America what nullification is and how to use it.
So, he's not forcing the citizen spouse and children out of the country ? Just the undocumented ?
Splitting up a family is not good, but from what you said it sounds like he didn't say the citizens would be deported (or is it called "ported" when you are a birthright citizen?)
If one parent is a US citizen when the child is born, the child is a US citizen. The question Trump is raising is about children born here, when neither parent is a citizen.
T's talking about doing away with that interpretation of the 14th amendment. If he succeeded, I'm saying, his kids would not lose their citizenship, because one parent was a US citizen. Pretty sure he wouldn't support that happening.
Derivative U.S. citizenship isn't defined for births within the boundaries of the United States - because if it was implemented as for births abroad, there are instances where a U.S. citizen parent doesn't pass that citizenship to their child. It would require an entirely new framework.
...and so this doesn't apply to Trump's 4 children by Ivana and Melania. They were born in the US to a US citizen. If he was able to do alter or do away with the 14th amendment, that meme wouldn't apply to them. Hopefully, he won't be able to do a thing to it. Your comment does not apply to this.
Births on U.S. soil aren't defined by anything other than the 14th Amendment; Citizenship of the parent isn't even a fallback mechanism - there would need to be new requirements established. Trump won't be able to change any amendments, as that takes Congressional and state action.
If you're directing that at my comment, I realize that. I was trying to correct the OP saying that if Trump's wish were to come true, his kids wouldn't be citizens. Since his offspring had one parent born to a US citizen, they wouldn't lose their citizenship.
Couldn’t Biden since he has the same immunity from prosecution! Doesn’t he have the right to charge trump for treason and obstruction of justice and corruption and put him behind bars and save our democracy and redo an election with two new candidates ?
I don't consider any member of that disgusting crime family a citizen. They ALL - every single one, should be deported to russia, where they can continue to suck putin's dick,
It shouldn't affect anyone who is already a US citizen. It's illegal in international law to make someone stateless, not that Trump would care. And one country can't make one of its citizens a citizen of some other country. LIkely it would only block the path to citizenship for poor future children.
That's terrible. I wish him luck. If they do go ahead with the change in the law, they should bring with it an amnesty for everyone caught between and just say it will apply in future. I'm not saying I'm for the new law but it's been debated for years. In Britain where I am it's already like that.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States”
Guess we’re just ignoring constitutional amendments now. He can’t lawfully do anything without enough states to ratify a change. Criminal in chief I guess 🤷♀️
Why is anyone surprised? The entire Trump Clan is quite adept at the whole "Do as I say not as I do" thing.
And as a matter of fact, if memory serves, that particular modality played a significant role in former Trump Universities most sought after diploma too!😂🫂❤️🔥🌏😇
George, you're putting me in my least favorite position: a correction in Trump's favor. All his kids are American because Trump is, just as my kid is American despite having a citizen of China as her mother.
Landed immigrant is the sought after status, it is just roll the lock forward to citizenship, pretty much. And so Melanie is in on the "Genius Grant" for her extreme talent in modelling and acting 🙄
And, for this and other obvious problems, this particular "concept of a plan" will be waved around like Old Glory but doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of surviving. ;)
This rule would be an executive order supposedly over-ruling the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Consitution. Maybe he should concentrate on those cheaper groceries.
Answer - yes, they were. His father Fred was born in New York, and his mother became a naturalized citizen in 1942, four years before The Orange Horror was born.
His older sister Maryanne and borther Fred Jr were born before she became a citizen.
I don’t want to rain on the parade here but Trump’s kids all have ancestry-based citizenship through him. I assume he only wants to get rid of birthplace-based birthright citizenship which means his kids would still be fine?
I’m confused once again. Ivana married Donald Trump in 1977, the children born of that marriage were the children of an American citizen, Donal Trump, therefore they are automatically US citizens. Same applies with Melania. Am I missing something??
You're not. Unfortunately many people are desperate to ridicule Trump, they overlook facts (much like Trumps supporters do) in order to do so, which really isn't necessary since he does and says so many ridiculous things.
There are a number of instances where U.S. citizenship isn't derived for a birth abroad - and no concept of derivative U.S. citizenship for births within the boundaries of the United States. It would cause an enormous amount of issues.
Of course, that is ALWAYS the case for every Trump proposal...
If only that were the case. The orange felon IS a citizen, and that confers upon his kids their citizenship. The fact that their mothers were not is a moot one. But he knows this and is another reason he doesn’t care about going after others’ families. He’s a monster.
I’m all for this. If we can revoke the citizenship of others, F that abysmal orange a$$hole’s kids! I’m sick of seeing all of the Trumps live by a different set of rules & get away with bloody murder. Deport all 4 of them & their dad can go too since DT’s talking about deporting families together.😹
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Did you know how difficult and expensive it is to give up your citizenship?
And they don’t have to let you either.
Sorry. ☹️
See:
https://bsky.app/profile/retepelyod.bsky.social/post/3lcvw2ymgnk26
We're going to see a whole lot of selective prosecutions and laws being applied unfairly
he who shall remain nameless, characterless, integrity-less, truthless, health-less and, increasingly brainless.
Take up their time in court, force them to defend every little thing they do. Then get them tied up in their own "laws".
Not just with this stupid legislation, but everything they propose.
Screw bi-partisanship, this is self-preservation.
Angola
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Barbados
Belize
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Grenada
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Birthright citizenship by nation.
Neither of his parents were US citizens when he was born.
His father still isnt
Because, yes, Trump is evil, but technically his plan/ramblings might not apply to his kids.
Splitting up a family is not good, but from what you said it sounds like he didn't say the citizens would be deported (or is it called "ported" when you are a birthright citizen?)
Also, I am not a Trump fan.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/a-misleading-take-on-the-trump-familys-citizenship/
How far back does the birthright go?
Read a book! Then tead the Constitution!
UraDumFuk
History really likes to rhyme, doesn't it? 😢
Guess we’re just ignoring constitutional amendments now. He can’t lawfully do anything without enough states to ratify a change. Criminal in chief I guess 🤷♀️
And as a matter of fact, if memory serves, that particular modality played a significant role in former Trump Universities most sought after diploma too!😂🫂❤️🔥🌏😇
THese are not retroactive laws. Get a grip.
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Personally, I think all four of them look Haitian.
He gets to get away with everything he ever wants to totally scot–free.
So, just non-“white enough” people.
It’s so transparent, their racism.
His older sister Maryanne and borther Fred Jr were born before she became a citizen.
However, fairness is sort of hard-wired into a human’s brain, like fear of fire.
It will be up to everyone, team No Trump, to highlight the hypocrisy and unfairness he slathers himself in.
Like his orange face paint.
There’s a joke in here somewhere.
Of course, that is ALWAYS the case for every Trump proposal...