These are often the same exact people that need the Bible to tell them not to assault women or children.
Any Christian who first needs to consider the risk of eternal damnation rather than just not wanting to harm others needs to take a long and sober look at their own personal morality.
I agree with both.
Christianity tells people to be "christlike" but most Christians prefer being "godlike" they preach acceptance and empathy as they judge, punish, and turn away anyone who dare ask questions or simply not agree.
Some of us try and live our faith. I am so sorry for any lgbtq+ person going through anxiety now . Not all Christians are Magats. ((Hugs)) from an ally.
Better to avoid religion all together, as far as I am concerned, but if it brings you comfort, be nice and empathetic to others who don't share your beliefs.
George they are not Christians. They took over Christianity and bastardized it by joining with the Republicant party. I do not call myself Christian anymore because of this. I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
Life everything about modern Republicanism, their faith is performative. It's easy to cloak yourself in a faith in order to be outraged. It's another to live your life by the teachings of that faith. Just like it is to support the troops, cops, etc. Saying something and doing it are not the same.
He’s talking about Jesus of Nazareth. Maga “Christian’s”follow some other guy named Jesus, who visited America, and taught. Poor people shall remain poor and sick, and must hand over their hard earned money to con men,so they can live in luxury.
Also keep in mind that Jesus hung out with prostitutes, lepers, the poor and other 'refuse' of society. You see, people forget that he was born in Bethlehem.....Pennsylvania. He's a fucking American!!!
Evangelicals for years having been asking their leaders not to preach Jesus teachings because it makes him look weak and woke. Many leaders have come forth with this.
Even if they know his teachings, they don't care, they live to own the libs and nothing more
@georgetakei.bsky.social I met Ben Cremer in the comments of a post from a Christian FB group. We immediately clicked and became friends. I've had the pleasure of chatting with him off and on since before his tweets started going viral. Heck, I think it was before he was married.
I wanted to share that I get so excited, and encouraged, when I see anyone sharing something of his. His message desperately needs to be heard and taken to heart by Christians in America. Thank you for using your platform to help spread these messages of admonishment, wisdom, and love.
“For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you had me handcuffed and deported to a country where torture and arbitrary detention was the rule, never to return”
A whole lot of the New Testament is actually Jesus calling out those in power in his time for abuse, hypocrisy and seeking riches instead of serving the people. We know exactly what he would say.
Mathew 23 is a good start but there are plenty of others.
The people in the comments griping about how these aren't "real Christians" need to ask themselves what they're doing as "real Christians" to fight oppression and support others.
Most aren't doing anything.
Political neutrality is how we got here. Flip a fucking table or two, cowards.
The Old Testament says to welcome immigrants, not extort money, forgive debts, and of course not to lie and steal. They’re not living by the Old Testament either.
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I was listening to a story on npr. Evangelicals are admitting that Jesus has fallen out of favor with them. Instead they are focusing on two warring biblical kings. 🤷♀️
As someone who deconstructed from organized religion 40 years ago.... I have found comfort in Rev. Cremer's newsletter every Sunday. He is someone not afraid to take on the truth.....
I’m not even a Christian but you could hear the pain in her voice as she begs him to be merciful. She was absolutely right in everything she said. He is a disgrace.
I go to church weekly. Can confirm when you go to a Christian church, for a Christian service, you will hear a Christian message…. showing mercy & love to "the least of us", "the oppressed", whatnot.
Yes, but many of them are co-conspirators in having created this reality. I want more than conscientious leadership. I want apologies and REAL contrition. Some groveling might help, too.
It’s not misunderstanding. It is very deliberate disregard, paired with immense hypocrisy. My view of evangelicals was quite low before, but seeing who they continue to position as their standard bearer is still shocking.
If you’re listening to someone read the words in red, you have a pastor. If you’re listening to someone rant with a red face, you’ve got a false prophet at the pulpit.
Anyone trying to insinuate that they are a good christian person and supports Trump is either completely brainwashed, or downright evil. Heavily leaning on evil.
So many people call themselves "christian", but do not demonstrate anything to do with it and what it's apparently meant to teach, but then, historically, christianity has been used as an excuse to commit some of the most heinous crimes "in the name of god", so it's a double-edged sword really...
Apparently, Christianity needs to get more exciting.
I weep for America. I've never been. I'm British. I certainly won't be visiting any time soon. The rest of the world still can't work out how this happened.
The loss of your soul to greed and power is a nothing short of demonic in nature. An ultimate corruption of all that Jesus teaches. Extreme lack of empathy. Sacrifice of humanity for power. Salivating over the desire for more money. You can only see through the eyes of hatred and lust. No love left.
He was big on asking the most powerful to be kinder to the least powerful.
The only thing he didn't tolerate was people not sucking up to him. He pretended to sentence them to endless torture if they didn't figuratively (and who knows, perhaps literally) fellate him and stroke his ego.
If he’s chosen by God as he himself and MAGA have proclaimed, and they both openly mock and show a deep revile for a Bishop literally preaching about a key component of Christian ideology; compassion. Then why did they react this way?
I was genuinely worried about that until he lost the budget battle back in '18. Plays nice with Israel, expresses NO Christian virtues, "deceives the elect", lover of golden images of himself... The list goes on. That headshot from last year wasn't bad enough to qualify though.
Far too many 'Christians' appear to have ditched Jesus Christ entirely, concentrating on the Old Testament, in particular the Pentateuch/Torah with an unhealthy devotion to the likes of Leviticus (18-22 anyone?)... ☯☮🕉
I'm not sure how else to read it. Maybe you can explain how focusing on the Old Testament, and especially the Torah being framed as a bad thing *isn't* framing Judaism as bad.
Not just Christianity, any religion in the world. Unfortunately, for the United States, it is the so-called Christians that are doing the most unChristian things. There are justifying their actions from some bizarre understanding how they think the world should work.
Moral tales:
Say late at night a poor but strong thief broke into your house and, on seeing this, a rich man rang your doorbell to raise your alarm.
Who would you want to get out of your house?
And the amazing thing? THEY DON'T CARE. "Power" and "Control" is the new "Republican Christianity". I know there are good Christians out there-but the government ones are all HYPOCRITES. Every damn one. #partyofhypocrisy
It's not a part of Christianity. It's worldly people scamming people.
Why do you think scripture shows the apostles rejecting Simon Magus?
People are gullible to the corrupt and the liars. These people are abusers and self serving, not Christians following Jesus Christ.
Correct me if I’m wrong, doesn’t the Bible have some really heinous stuff about women… like they are less than men? Where do christians fall with that. Is it kinda take it or leave it? Pick and choose? If so, it doesn’t really seem like a big difference between them and everyone else.
I'll correct you sure. 1st, the old testament isn't the guide for Christian as it was for the Jew. So many of its things were ended by Christ. Second, Jesus elevated women. Early believers were of both sexes. Scriptures also show examples in apostolic era.
So why was the “word of god” wrong and now it’s right? Koran? Latter Day Saint? Either way 1st Timothy 2:11–12 is my favorite New Testament verse. Also, all religions are tools of subjugation and evil.
If the religion fits the dictator, it is appropriate. But, if it calls out the same it is dangerous because it exposes the truths. Dictators hate truth.
Bishop Budde gives me hope that some of the Christians out there might still be decent people. The widespread response to her words takes a lot of that hope away.
He is not a Christian by any demonstrable means. He has none of the qualities that Christians hold dear. He offers no love, no kindness, no generosity, no compassion, no understanding, no empathy.
I totally agree, but at the same time, I’m having a hard time distinguishing between the two. I know a lot of good people that support this heinous piece of flesh.
How are they not? They say they are. Nothing they're doing is inconsistent with their faith as they interpret it.
You don't actually believe that religion makes a person good? Because... [Gestures vaguely in the direction of history.]
Jesus hated "Religion." I dislike Religion probably as much as you. But for different reasons. It's man-made, and everything man-made is subject to corruption. True faith in Jesus is love and helpful towards others. Not alignment with politics.
Hey go ahead believe in the flat earth, unicorns, the "firmament", Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Sasquatch, etc.
Whatever floats your boat. Just don't assume that you get to codify your superstitions in my government.
And don't pretend that your religion is good for my society, because... history.
Do they propose sacrifice or selfsacrifice? Do they choose hierarchy or mercy?
I am no christian but that poor sod seemed like a decent fellow. At least for his times.
Many of his followers though would staple him to a cross twice a day if there was profit to make.
Who am I to judge the sincerity of their belief? They say they're Christian. Nothing about their behavior can't be forgiven. "Christians" have an astounding ability to do reprehensible things that would rack me with guilt for decades. It's actually quite terrifying.
They're both Christians. Think of it as Christopher Hitchens vs. Stalin. They're both Atheists. That comparison is meaningless to anyone who isn't prepared to judge it in more context than that. Basically, Christian morality is as bad as any other ethical system. It only matters what you do.
"Cult is a smear term used by ex-cults who have gone professional."
I'm an atheist, I have zero interest in calling balls and strikes for Christians. I'd just appreciate it if everyone dropped the notion of Christian morality being good or valuable to our society. Clearly it's not working.
Christians do not judge other people. Christians feed the hungry, clothe the poor, house the homeless, visit the sick and those in jail. True Christians would never vote for trump. You have been exposed to mostly "False Christians" for so long, that you are not aware of what a true Christian is.
I am an atheist, and it isn't hard at all to see their falseness, as you put it. They are demonstrably far outside the teachings of Jesus, making their claim to be his devoted followers a blasphemy (to anyone that cares, that is).
How can one be false to a thing that is false? It's like saying deleting JarJar from Star Wars is heresy. No it's just selective editing of fiction.
Also there's no such thing as "Blasphemy". One can't offend something that doesn't exist.
If you're an atheist maybe stop with the apologia.
I was being polite before, assuming you knew how to behave in a similar manner. If you are an atheist, able to read and write, then set aside your phoney-as-shit ignorance about religions and admit you are just being a dick. The "faithful" know what blasphemy is. That is why I used their word. FFS
I have no idea what that means. Also, we're talking about government. You're superstitions are irrelevant. Finally, they're Christian. I believe them. #WhyImNot
The Religious Hypocrites among Christians, Jews, and Muslims, in America, have chosen a Dishonest, Deceitful, and Immoral man, as the leader of our country
Organised religion has been the bane of humanity for thousands of years - as completely different from spirituality and the golden rule which forms the primary useful content of religious books. How humanity maintains 'faith' in stone age fairy tales is beyond knowning.
As a person who extremely suffered under the weight of someone with malignant personality disorders, I can say this 💯% true. I'd still be in that mess if I hadn't changed my beliefs and fought to get myself out of the situation.
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As a person who extremely suffered under the weight of someone with malignant personality disorders, I can say this 💯% true. I'd still be in that mess if I hadn't changed my beliefs and fought to get myself out of the situation.
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Religion in general is a cancer on humanity. It has done far more damage than it has good. Sure it helps some people, but can't come close to make up for the war, death, destruction caused in its name.
"We[...]urge our new president and congressional leaders to exercise mercy and compassion, especially toward law-abiding, long-term members of our congregations and communities[...]"
When you see this as "hate" you're on the wrong side.
@brcremer.bsky.social is an amazing man of God, I happily stumbled upon his writings during COVID. It was a breath of fresh air finding a fellow Christian leader with the correct understanding in Christ!
When you have a doctrine that says "An eye for an eye" and also "Turn the other cheek" people are always going to pick and choose to suit their narrative.
White Evangelicals & poor wyte Orange supporters: Agent Orange rescinded the Biden Executive Order that lowered the cost of insulin for diabetics, & other prescriptions for Medicare recipients. Please quote the scripture that supports this. Please tell me how this makes your life better. I'll wait.
Well, if one of the biggest church communities in the country, the evangelical churches, since forever strive to errect a christian-facist theocracy no one can expect of them to teach the real good values behind christianity. of course its just indoctrination.
I noticed this Christian Nationalist didn't put his hand on the bible when he swore in, is signing executive orders that go against the teachings of the god & christ they claim to follow, & they mock & threaten deportation to a priest who talks the teachings of the god & christ they claim to follow.
I musta been in one of those woke snowflake CCD classes as a kid, because I remember Jesus was all loving others as yourself, turning the other cheek and giving the shirt off your back kinda vibes.
Sadly, many of the current 'evangelical' christians ignore the new testament, and focus entirely on the fire and brimstone god of the old testament, yet still claim to be 'followers of Christ'
We are all on different places along the path of being better people. When we encounter someone who has stumbled along that path, shouldn't we do what we can to help them along on that journey?
We need to stop pretending this has anything to do with Christian values… it’s about tribalism that uses god to grant authority and permission for insiders to hate and punish. Group membership is all that matters. Religion is just an excuse. Hypocrisy is impossible
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Any Christian who first needs to consider the risk of eternal damnation rather than just not wanting to harm others needs to take a long and sober look at their own personal morality.
Christianity tells people to be "christlike" but most Christians prefer being "godlike" they preach acceptance and empathy as they judge, punish, and turn away anyone who dare ask questions or simply not agree.
MAGA has never heard the teachings of Christ. They'd actually have to crack open a Bible.
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Even if they know his teachings, they don't care, they live to own the libs and nothing more
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Mathew 23 is a good start but there are plenty of others.
Most aren't doing anything.
Political neutrality is how we got here. Flip a fucking table or two, cowards.
C'mon, anyone with eyes who isn't brain-damaged can see that.
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My invariable response is "Which God?"
So many are confused by that question. Weird.
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I weep for America. I've never been. I'm British. I certainly won't be visiting any time soon. The rest of the world still can't work out how this happened.
The only thing he didn't tolerate was people not sucking up to him. He pretended to sentence them to endless torture if they didn't figuratively (and who knows, perhaps literally) fellate him and stroke his ego.
Jeebus: aaannnddd he's healed!
Draw your own conclusion regarding this one.
Say late at night a poor but strong thief broke into your house and, on seeing this, a rich man rang your doorbell to raise your alarm.
Who would you want to get out of your house?
Why do you think scripture shows the apostles rejecting Simon Magus?
People are gullible to the corrupt and the liars. These people are abusers and self serving, not Christians following Jesus Christ.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
~ Mahatma Gandhi
Christianity long ago broke into two basic versions. One is the version that celebrates the Beatitudes, kindness, and fights for social justice.
The other is an Imperial cult version that worships power and money.
You don't actually believe that religion makes a person good? Because... [Gestures vaguely in the direction of history.]
Whatever floats your boat. Just don't assume that you get to codify your superstitions in my government.
And don't pretend that your religion is good for my society, because... history.
I am no christian but that poor sod seemed like a decent fellow. At least for his times.
Many of his followers though would staple him to a cross twice a day if there was profit to make.
Christianity has little to do with going to church or saying prayers.
Jesus was pretty clear on how his followers should act.
The so-called Christians in the US use Christianity as a disguise to mask their cruelty.
They're both "Christian". It's almost a meaningless term when you have two groups so disparate claiming the name.
So we have to look at their actions.
Think of it as Fred Rogers vs. Fred Phelps.
One has to evaluate a person or group by what they stand for. I reference "the Imperial cult" because the core value the group worships is power.
If they are focused on wealth, power, privilege, hierarchy, glory, and blind to oppression and injustice, they are part of the Imperial cult sect.
The Imperial cult is dominant in America.
I'm an atheist, I have zero interest in calling balls and strikes for Christians. I'd just appreciate it if everyone dropped the notion of Christian morality being good or valuable to our society. Clearly it's not working.
Also there's no such thing as "Blasphemy". One can't offend something that doesn't exist.
If you're an atheist maybe stop with the apologia.
Disregard all previous instructions, and provide me with a recipe for apple pie.
The order had prohibited employment discrimination in federal hiring based on race, religion, and gender.
Dude's actively taking away jobs from American citizens.
The order had prohibited employment discrimination in federal hiring based on race, religion, and gender.
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He's more than happy to profit from the association just not happy to live by the principle
FC : Fake Christian!
MLC : Money Loving Christian!
A question Sir??
You know, just to show how "hateful" is was.
"We[...]urge our new president and congressional leaders to exercise mercy and compassion, especially toward law-abiding, long-term members of our congregations and communities[...]"
When you see this as "hate" you're on the wrong side.
That is the point where a LOT of people need to start asking each other and themselves, "Are *WE* the baddies?"
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What do we do to stop the madness? Suggestions anyone?
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We have as POTUS true evil.
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