Caveat Emptor. The GOP has for years made it clear they only care about the fetus, not the child. That $5k will be the last bit of help you get to raise your child. After that, they will cut SNAP, and Headstart, and anything else that will help the CHILD develop. And in Trump's Amerikka ...1/2
taking that $5k would be opening the door to government control of your child. Expose your child to ideas they don't like or information they disagree with and you may find your child "removed".
I needed to have an emergency C-section. Hospital copay around $2200, plus another $600 for the anesthesiologist and OB/GYN (not hospital employees). With good insurance. 15 years ago.
$5k isn't enough incentive anyway. Better solution would be (not in order, not all inclusive): single payer Healthcare, paid family/other leave, fix school funding, fix housing, etc. Writing checks to have kids is not the answer.
We're overpopulated. In my lifetime, the population doubled in 64 years.
That's why land, housing, and food prices have skyrocketed. When the Interstate Highway System opened, the roads were wide open. Now they're packed.
And, the Climate Crisis is reducing our food supply and habitable space.
You know what might create a baby boom? Universal healthcare, including abortion and insurance, paid parental leave, a sound Dept. of Education, Head Start programs, affordable daycare, and on and on.
Even with very good BCBS insurance my grandchilds birth this year was 5k. Normal labor and delivery. 1 night stay for both. Daycare is 400 a week. These people have no idea what working folks are dealing with. Anyone with children in needs a 20% raise just to stay even with inflation.
Yeah, good luck getting those money. Here's a 6 months (at least) waiting list while you pay for your childcare expense out of pocket. Happy parenting!
Alyssa is such an affirmative action hire. She got the View job not because she was special, but because they needed a white conservative. Everybody knows Trump's baby incentive is a ploy to get more white babies. To be a Trump critic, she sane washes his crazy way too much.
So ladies, who out there would have more babies because of the trump plan? I know I wouldn't! They obviously have no idea what it takes to raise a child financially, mentally and physically.
It seems the only people who realize that an increase in population is not sustainable with current resources are those younger than 20 and some older Americans who are worried about their grandkids.
#ScienceMatters
Mother Heroine (Russian: Мать-героиня, romanized: Mat'-geroinya) is the highest title of the Russian Federation, awarded to mothers with Russian citizenship who have given birth to and raised ten or more children who are Russian citizens. Krasnov is copied Putin. This is sick & Barbaric 🤬🤬🤬
Summarizing Whoopie’s response: “The Trump administration doesn’t know how women's bodies work or what it costs to raise a child or just have a child.” And my two cents: Or how hard it is to re-enter the workforce after stepping out to raise your children for a number of years. #Misogyny #Protests
Why not make it so that the average worker can afford to live a happy and comfortable life so that they can devote the time and energy to raise a family?
Rhetorical... It would require corporations and the rich to curb their greed and pay a fair wage.
Young women may receive $5,000 today to become pregnant, but they'll need to spend $29,419 a year to raise that same child, at the same time that many benefits are being clawed back by Trump and DOGE.
This is the best the can come up with? what about free health care, paid family leave, affordable housing, getting paid a living wage? With this terrible idea, some people will have babies to get paid the lump sum, people who aren't even ready to provide for a family!
Anyone with kids will tell you, $5k is such a crumb to drop. Gone in the first year. Kamala wanted to give people $25k to buy a house for those kids to live in. That is a step in the right direction and helps people actually care for children.
Haha the gulf countries give 3K a month until the kid graduates highschool LOL. Then universities are free.
The US you gotta pay for everything and always need to read the fine print even when you are on your death bed. No thanks , the US is slowly giving me EVANGELICAL ISIS but with no healthcare
*free prenatal care & more early years support
* increase min wage
* well-subsidised childcare when work is essential
* closing the gender pay gap for women returning to careers
* ensure women’s familial contribution has a $ value in separation/divorce
* do more on domestic abuse
When they talk about babies, they’re not talking about brown babies or black babies or any other color babies only white babies. They’ve already said that they’re not gonna offer that too. Low income people.
No one will raise these children.They will be neglected.They will work earlier,probably in the regimes military or one of the many factories we will have, &they will die earlier.We thought our society was becoming like that of Denmark but no we were going the North Korea route &didn’t see it coming.
Lie $5,000 will at all offset the cost of pregnancy, giving birth, and then raising a child to be a productive citizen... Offer me a million dollars, then maybe I'll think about it.
LOL, she thinks 5k exceeds the delivery cost so it can be banked for future? Lady, tons of people have $5000+ deductibles, or worse have no insurance at all still.
But I'm sure whatever network employs them offers Cadillac health care with a low deductible that she meets in the first week of Jan.
We all know their will be fine print in that Trump Birther Promo:
1. Only White American or Eastern European Families will qualify
2. No Mixed Race or Non Whites will qualify.
3. No Liberal Families will qualify
4. Must swear allegiance to Trump
5. Must Promise they will vote for MAGAT Priorities
Even if there isn’t fine print, the math doesn’t add up. Just having a baby costs tens of thousands of dollars, and 18 years of food, clothes, medicine, bedding, toys, education, etc. isn’t cheap, either. Then there’s the lack of paid maternal/paternal leave. It’s just a bad investment right now.
24/7 Pregnancy at about 280 days would be 6,720 hours. $5,000 is paying 75 cents per hour and you only get paid if you produce a live baby, I'll bet. What a scam!
Americans are already getting $2k per child annually via income tax credits and the birthrate is still declining. That's $72,000 for 2 kids over an 18 year period. Why in the world do they think throwing another $5k will make a difference? Parents need actual support like reliable child care
Poor women will sign up for this so they get the 5k, then public assistance if that’s still a thing, and as long as they can have kids and get the $$ they’ll do it. May sound bad but I know women like this.
How about the US government just cover the cost of childbirth for mother and infant, and keep a substantial EIC for children?
That first part would enrage Health Insurance companies, no doubt.
If you want to increase birth rates pay people a wage that will allow them to support a family. 5k is gone in a few months. What comes after that? Poverty?
Didn't Mussolini do this? I think he did.
Follows Mango Mussolini, called him Mussolini in 2015
when he came down the escalator.
Gave my insured daughter and son-in-law 5K for each grandkid to pay of their med debt. I was shocked they still owed 5K on a natural childbirth.
Alyssa Farah Griffin is a joke. She seriously thinks this is better than nothing? To offer $5,000 to have and raise a child? Now that’s what you call clueless! Good grief 🤦♀️
Nobody is having a whole baby they weren't already going to have for $5K. It won't increase the birthrate. Europe tried a substantially more generous version of this and it made life easier for families (good! let's do that) but didn't increase the birthrate. Embrace immigration.
What happens when the $5K runs out in the first year after the baby is born? Donald Trump and his billionaire bros have no clue how much it costs to raise a child in today's world.
$5k wouldn't go very far in the US, doesn't even cover the cost of the medical bills, something that the rest of the world does not penalise people with for having children...
He's freaking out about the polls, and looking for ways to give people money, to raise his popularity. Each child check will be signed by Tubby, and have a certificate naming him the kid's godfather.
Behold the $5,000 bounty for birthing in Babylon—where they’ll hand thee a bonus but abandon thee at daycare, healthcare, and education. Verily, they worship the womb but forsake the child.
I asked an African refugee friend with 4 kids why she was having another. "I need the money," she said. Earned Income Credit was $3,500 per kid per year, and she needed a new car. I think Trump wants white kids though.
She's no slouch, by the way. She has a hair braiding & weaving salon, 3 houses she bought at tax auction and fixed up, and her oldest is about to graduate high school with AP credits toward an RN degree. Refugees making America great!
Anyone defending that nonsense, is so detached from what it take to rear a child for an average American that their opinion on the matter is entirely worthless.
Outrageous farrahs entitlement to make pronouncements on what is good ood policy
While
Obliviously admitting she's totally unaware
Republicans cancelled the child tax credit program
We had a government introduce a baby bonus in the early 2000s, it encouraged the uneducated, unmarried to reproduce, there were cases where the so called father stood over the mother to sign the money over to him. Bad idea 👎
Is it dollar-to-dollar more than some other countries are paying for women to have children? Yes. But a lot of those countries also have lower costs of living, nationalized/affordable healthcare, and parental leave.
$ 5000 is nothing for a lifetime working underpaid.
For rich people, not even a lot of money, but for the poor it's a lot.
For those who need money for drug addiction, having many kids could even seem like a solution, but who cares what happens to them, because support for those kids is already gone
Those "lost" kids will serve perfectly as cheap labor.
They'll be forced to survive with whatever scraps they can get.
The "immigrant problem" they claim to fix will be nothing compared to the new mess they're creating, and real Americans they can't deport.
When you consider how much it takes to raise a kid in the US - this is actually an insult especially when you are simultaneously working on eliminating health care, nutritional programs, and educational programs for 40% of kids.
If MAGA were serious about being pro-life instead of pro-birth, they would pay for things like healthcare, child care, parental leave, and the like. But they still complain about their taxes going to help other people, especially anybody who isn't married, white, heterosexual, and Protestant.
I happily pay taxes, even though I don't have kids. I'm happy to pay for the education of the kid that you had because you wanted a kid. But if you're gonna have a kid because the government bribed you with a pittance, you can pay for it yourself.
Canada can suggest other ways to help raising children. All medical expenses with birth are free. Mothers are given a year in paid maternity leave and when they return to the workforce there is $10 per day day care. Finally there are monthly baby bonuses to help with child raising expenses.
the phrase "welfare queen" .... implies that these women intentionally have multiple children to maximize their welfare benefits, avoid seeking employment, and live extravagantly at the expense of taxpayers." Wikipedia
You know this is right out of Russia's playbook? They offer incentives for larger families and they are equally as dumb (i.e. annual metro passes and I thought it they got the US equivalent of 10,000 dollars...)
Why is Goldberg portrayed in the photo headline as the opposing voice?
She’s as shameless and clueless as all the other hosts. That show is absolute garbage.
this is crazy actually cuz anyone who knows anything can tell you that 5k$ doesn’t even make a dent in the total cost of medical bills when having a baby in the US.
$5,000 is nothing if you are unlucky and the baby has health problems or disability that may or may not be lifelong. Choosing between house payments or paying for the child’s healthcare needs destroys marriages and families.
The doctor did work out some sort of deal with the manufacturer when we couldn’t afford it so my child basically had guinea pig status but other associated expenses did cause us to lose house we had been buying. It took years to recover financially.
Explains why my wife threw the remote at the tv this morning. Griffin is an idiot if she buys Trumpie boy's crap. And $5K? Yeah right. Doesn't cover crap when it comes to raising a child.
Allyssa has been financing IVF pregnancy for years without success. She is not being objective. 👀 ‘opinion’ . The ‘making-babies-to-order’ industry is something that Trump & Musk are eager to capitalize on 🤑🇺🇸🙄
Our population is not falling. Our citizens birthrate has been below replacement since 1972. Thus, we only have a successful economy due to immigration. Oh, and those property values are only going up because of demand from a growing population.
I’m so disappointed in Farrah for that “ hand maiden tales” type comment. I’ve been watching “The Man In The High Castle “. It’s following this administration to a “T” so to speak.
What I hate - there's 0 propaganda supporting men to get good jobs or improve themselves so they can find stable relationships and support a family. They just want babies. It's like men are just want sperm donors. When we need plain stable two income households to attempt raising kids safely.
Soooooo completely effed up.
It costs between $10 and 15k to have a baby in the US, because remember folks, we don't have universal health care. And, then, do you tell your child, "mommy brought you into this world for $5,000?"
Is absolutely everything a fucking transaction to him?
It was defended by Alyssa Farah Griffin. I don't take anything she has to say as honest. She claims to not be behind trump but then defends him at his worst.
She's the token republican they always put in that seat. Some might say she's the DEI hire.
June 13, 2023 TBS article: "The median cost of a vaginal birth in Florida is $31,983.52 ($12,603.64 for those with insurance.) For a C-section, that number jumps to $41,299.31 ($15,445.17 for insured patients.)" $5,000 doesn't even cover half of the insured patient cost.
Want to mention that the Nixon Administration paid parents to limit themselves to two children. That's why there's an unbalance number of Baby Boomers to Generation X.
Hey, could you make economic situations favorable to raising children? Like, livable wages, single payer Healthcare, maternity leave, bodily autonomy, affordable childcare and education?
Nah, best we can do is 5 grand and a pizza party. Here's your robe.
This is not a problem. The world is experiencing an overpopulation problem. We don't need to pay people to have kids. A slight decline in population might actually help.
"We'll give you a $5,000 check for having a baby, that should make up for eliminating the Department of Education, zeroing out SNAP [food stamps], cutting $880 billion from Medicaid, and severely devaluing the American dollar! ...why is nobody taking off their pants?"
🧵 children will be neglected and abused. This will cause domestic violence in the long run. This is a horrendous proposal and does not need to happen under any circumstances. The birth rate is dropping for a reason! People cannot afford to even take care of themselves let alone children!!!!!
Do you realize what this $5,000 reward for having a baby will do? This will cause more singlehanded damage than probably anything Trump has done thus far. Men will convince their partners to have children for the money, some won’t need convincing. Babies are expensive,children will be neglected 🧵
$5000 would be there and gone so fast, but also the reasons why people don't want to bring children into this world should be what is addressed instead, lol.
I couldn't help but wonder...if a family signs up 4 this in certain states and then she has a miscarriage and they somehow blame her...does she get money or the mandatory jail sentence. I can't believe THIS is their plan instead of improving incomes health care education and the planet we r killing
The people pushing women to have more children are also responsible for babies starving in Africa due to cuts to USAID and for (US citizen) children of parents from Latin American countries being deported. It's very obvious that they only want more white children, preferably from wealthy parents.
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/1990/07/01/it-pays-to-have-children-in-quebec/
Rich people do not know this problem...
$5,000 is not an incentive unless that’s monthly thru college.
This is what you offer when you have absolutely no clue as to what human beings actually do to raise children.
It's almost as the people who exploit human labor want to make sure that human labor is always cheaper and cheaper, forever.
I know, stop destroying the planet! maybe make a future for the children!
That's why land, housing, and food prices have skyrocketed. When the Interstate Highway System opened, the roads were wide open. Now they're packed.
And, the Climate Crisis is reducing our food supply and habitable space.
$5000 is an insult.
Seriously, $5000 is a tiny drop in a very large bucket of expenses.
#ScienceMatters
Rhetorical... It would require corporations and the rich to curb their greed and pay a fair wage.
5k is insufficient…and insulting.
The US you gotta pay for everything and always need to read the fine print even when you are on your death bed. No thanks , the US is slowly giving me EVANGELICAL ISIS but with no healthcare
* increase min wage
* well-subsidised childcare when work is essential
* closing the gender pay gap for women returning to careers
* ensure women’s familial contribution has a $ value in separation/divorce
* do more on domestic abuse
=more babies
Infinite money glitch!
They don't want us poors breeding.
But I'm sure whatever network employs them offers Cadillac health care with a low deductible that she meets in the first week of Jan.
1. Only White American or Eastern European Families will qualify
2. No Mixed Race or Non Whites will qualify.
3. No Liberal Families will qualify
4. Must swear allegiance to Trump
5. Must Promise they will vote for MAGAT Priorities
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/lebensborn-program
Of course he will, he always thinks of the overall picture and has the long game in mind. Right? Riiiigghhhhhht?!
That first part would enrage Health Insurance companies, no doubt.
5k isn’t squat when you’re raising a child
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-kyle-langford-proposes-forcing-migrant-woman-marry-2060334#google_vignette
Quite aside from the medical bills, and not even taking formula into account, aren't diapers like *at least* $20 a pack?
Follows Mango Mussolini, called him Mussolini in 2015
when he came down the escalator.
Gave my insured daughter and son-in-law 5K for each grandkid to pay of their med debt. I was shocked they still owed 5K on a natural childbirth.
She lived it with him and spoke the truth about j6 etc...
She actually knows what a real republican should look like.
There is a reason it's called the 'view'
While
Obliviously admitting she's totally unaware
Republicans cancelled the child tax credit program
Ah yes. 5k. That'll offset the 300k it costs to raise a kid.5k doesn't even cover the birthing cost, then for the next 18 years, you have a responsibility towards raising your kid, 5k ain't cutting it
https://www.change.org/p/baby-bearing-boycott?recruiter=447072178&recruited_by_id=e9ba2a1c-cb52-4e9e-8d75-311a2b766709&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=starter_onboarding_share_personal&utm_medium=copylink
Utterly dystopian.
For rich people, not even a lot of money, but for the poor it's a lot.
For those who need money for drug addiction, having many kids could even seem like a solution, but who cares what happens to them, because support for those kids is already gone
They'll be forced to survive with whatever scraps they can get.
The "immigrant problem" they claim to fix will be nothing compared to the new mess they're creating, and real Americans they can't deport.
They want WHITE babies, anything is not wanted and can be got rid of.
She’s as shameless and clueless as all the other hosts. That show is absolute garbage.
It's a generous offer, but I'm afraid I'll have to pass.
https://www.change.org/p/baby-bearing-boycott?recruiter=447072178&recruited_by_id=e9ba2a1c-cb52-4e9e-8d75-311a2b766709&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=starter_onboarding_share_personal&utm_medium=copylink
Especially without social supports like childcare.
Long haired freaky people need not apply. - Five Man Electric Band
Somebody check them for whiplash cause that's a hell of an about face
It costs between $10 and 15k to have a baby in the US, because remember folks, we don't have universal health care. And, then, do you tell your child, "mommy brought you into this world for $5,000?"
Is absolutely everything a fucking transaction to him?
She's the token republican they always put in that seat. Some might say she's the DEI hire.
Nah, best we can do is 5 grand and a pizza party. Here's your robe.
They aren't even human.
He’s eliminating the rule of law focus on that.