Anyone out there ever work in Treasury Payments? I'm curious if this is actually the case:
The Secure Payment System (SPS) employs a strict separation of duties as a core security measure.
The point of the ? Is to know how many people are required to approve a payment and where are they located
The Secure Payment System (SPS) employs a strict separation of duties as a core security measure.
The point of the ? Is to know how many people are required to approve a payment and where are they located
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Also encourage everyone to hit up HR to amend their W-2 to cease federal withholdings.
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If they were still around, I’d apologize to my parents about laughing at them for not knowing what LOL meant 20 years ago.
Oh I know, I went thru that too, and I turned 65 last year! Retired early and if SS goes away I’ll have to throw a fit lol
This outlines what has happened overnight last night
we need financial support at places like ACLU for legal fights and need him rallying up corporate friends who know this is wrong, and will help put on maximum pressure, especially on R's.
They can program payouts to go through (or stop) if someone farts now.
It is common knowledge....
they know millions of us are on here and raging, sharing info, plans...
of course it is being monitored.
he's a white male billionaire. def want to believe he's a "good guy, but the Steve Bannon thing is kinda a problem...
Uh, sure. Let's discuss #Treasure payment systems #security procedures on social media.
You can't possibly be serious.
He lied! Surprise, surprise.
They are taught to follow orders, and questioning them is discouraged. If FORUS contradicts their immediate commander, who do you think they'll follow? Do the math. I didn't enlist because I question everything and will not follow blindly.
MAGA military are super cult dipshits.
I’m not there, in Australia, and can’t help but I keep watching and try to stay informed, ready for when it ripples out to the rest of us.
We’re all with you. Stay strong
We have to remember: there's a few thousand billionaires trying to take over the world.
There's 8 billion of us to stop them
#getcreative #stoptheoligarchy
is that they've now completely moved onto something else while everyone is distracted with the last insane illegal thing
they are now dismantling CIA
we are only 16 days in
payment systems least of our problems
none of this can be rebuilt
I understand your point, although the theft and misappropriation of government funds will be how they fund this criminal cabal.
Make no mistakes.... American government has been highjacked by Musk.
So... options?
Please call, call, call!
202-224-3121
“This is not about persuasion: This is about disorientation.”
-Bannon 2018
This wasn't propaganda. It was a plan.
what humans do best. This is a bad
ditch we're stuck in but even Hitler
wasn't the final end of Germany.
They have been planning this for years. trump has lined up loyalists in key positions to cover the crimes that they will do. Nothing will be done until Dems get the House & Senate but even that's not guaranteed because of the Sup Court
No one answer questions about how our Treasury works.
Thanks.
There are comparable controls in the private sector. High value payments, and bulk dispursements are higher stake transactions then your typical consumer payments
READ THIS if you haven't yet:
Now there's also a curious mathematic law that could be used so long as the subsets are large enough, but none of the clowns Elmo is rolling in with are interested enough in either pure math or forensic accounting to have ever heard of it, much less know how to put it to use.
But then again, they're not looking for actual fraud, are they?
Is it possible that maybe Elon was looking for a way to delete or disappear sanctions on Russian Oligarchs or some of his friends?
The White House already has an agency that audits the Treas. Dept. It's the OMB.
The Congress also has such an agency. The GAO.
They audit all the time.
If Trump wants these agencies audited, he should do it LEGALLY.
If no one is overseeing , money can go anywhere
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-associate-bfs-federal-payment-system/
Worse than any ransomeware we have seen. We are compromised.
Remediation will require all new software.
#AuditNAZIElmo #DefundNAZIElmo #DeportNAZIElmo #JailtheOrangePustule #SubprimeCourtReformsNOW
It'll be worse in 2026 if the Dems do not overcome the INCREASED voter suppression that is bound to happen as the Repubs have most levels of power in Red states and federally.
This will take a while, but they’re young.
They were stunned at how fast and easily it was done. Sadly, I have to agree with Musk on this one, anything can be hacked.
This process flow is missing the first 2 steps, which is approval of the payment by the relevant agency (which is usually 3 people involved) and transmission to treasury for payment. The agency is responsible for the validity of the disbursement.
Make sense.
Multiple approvers with unique MFA for each user needed before the pmt is scheduled.
They were deposited the Saturday before. Has never happened in the 17 years I have been on SS.
If the 3rd is a Monday holiday, it is deposited the FRIDAY before. Monday was not a holiday. And Saturday?
I think SS staff pushed them out early d/t Musk.
Maybe they like it like that by design?
Problem is relatively little code can export all the data, do massive damage, change deposit info. The export worries me most.
https://www.vox.com/politics/398366/musk-doge-treasury-sba-opm-budget
Sometimes additional levels of approval depending on the size of the check were required.
https://substack.com/@ericmillerus/note/c-91200973
https://bsky.app/profile/nicoharisabitch.bsky.social
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
https://www.nationalfinancialplan.com
- it is very difficult to override.
These codes are likely byzantine, using languages you’ve never heard of from the days of mainframe computers.
Add the highest level security to that and no, it’s not like creating an app.
They've been trying to switch the system over to a different system setup for the past two decades. Nothing has ever worked.
It's too large amount of data to be held in a different type of mainframe system it's something like salesforces not secure enough.
https://bsky.app/profile/davidoatkins.bsky.social/post/3lhfiqk7ios2x
https://bsky.app/profile/illithideractivity.bsky.social/post/3lhfbclscic2h
https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3lhetzrjke22j
The whole system is compromised by physical access.
They've had no success.
This kid is wet behind his ears doesn't know Jack.
That's coming from somebody who knows a lot of programmers for the government both civilian and Military.
The promise of this nightmare continuing to worsen.
But they're supposed to be a divisory panel only.
If we can get a federal judge to give a temporary order to kick them back out of all these systems and place back to people that are the legal oversight of it.
Several lawsuits to get them out of our payment systems right now by federal orders.
There is a department that does the forensics accounting.
The implications are staggering. Control and manipulate data, information, currency, and…people. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66333633
He is like a cat with how many lives?
Also the Canadian border!
Biden got the troops there. Trump got nothing.
on with the Price of Eggs.
Does Santa eat the cookies you leave out for him? Does the Easter Bunny hide your eggs???
BRUH!
Mexico had already committed those troops last year. And less than 3 kilos of fentanyl came across the Canadian border, so Canada said, "Sure. We'll look into that."
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/01/migrant-encounters-at-u-s-mexico-border-have-fallen-sharply-in-2024/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/22/illegal-crossing-mexico-border-four-year-low
He inherited a quiet border.
Not all that smart if you are asking for and claiming a victory for getting what is already there.
These things were put in place under Biden. Canada and Mexico played Trump! Research it!
It's true that Mexico is sending more, but they already deployed more troops at various times during 2024.
Canada approved their border security package BEFORE Trump took office and the amount of fentanyl from Canada is extremely small.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/government-of-canada-announces-its-plan-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html
Would you please stop letting Trump think for you, It makes you look incredibly stupid.
https://www.crisesnotes.com/day-five-of-the-trump-musk-treasury-payments-crisis-of-2025-not-read-only-access-anymore/
He can be (or come across as) a "normal human being", something most of his peers have long purged and left for the poors.
I can totally see him falling down a youtube rabbit hole.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/s/e85v2lSJdC
Also, not sure the purpose of the question, but it reads more like a legislative / legal separation not necessarily a systems protection like X function can ONLY be done by Y user. Hopefully it’s both. 🙏
Here is an opportunity to make your voice heard.
These Jack-wads are looking for any excuse, and a reply on social media will get someone fired with loss of benefits. Everybody is keeping their heads down.
Punch card program. 1973
And that's just basic stuff. In accounting, separation of tasks is essential.
Boy, when they fuk us, they really fuk us good.
Except the guy in the movie was a genius and killer, this South African is a cream puff and a moron.
STOP.
@5calls.org
That doesn't happen in 2 weeks...does it?
So many of us depend on Social Security. We had our first meeting with our Congressperson today to voice our concerns. We have to fight like bloody hell.
He’s like …
Re: ✍️neighbor AGs—been there/done that, during the nation-wide illegal bank foreclosure crisis 2007-2010; told out-of-state-letters are put in “others” pile, as they divert attention/⏰ from residents. In hindsight, it’s best 2 focus on my fed/state reps—even if they’re …
But, honestly, I lack bull-shitERY skills. It never crossed my mind, nor have I ever wanted 2 perfect them—regardless of the circumstances B4 me. That’s because, IMO, this tactic weakens my resolve 2 accomplish whatever is bothering/harming 2 me instead of strengthening it.
Remember: a minority of the country voted for him. We just have to give people some actionable steps.
SRSLY.
It's a coup.
Wonder if it'll be Musk or FOTUS on the new currency?
Make sure you apply for SSI before your retirement month.
This is insane.
Call now, call often. Flood their phones.
I'm definitely not advocating giving up.
202-224-3121
Called my Rep's local office and her Pres Secretary answered the phone. She got an earful!
Keep trying every number and email as often as you can.
Hard to ignore the shredder bin overflowing.
I was a Fiscal Officer (civil service) for the Federal government for 18 years. The decisions made on approved expenses are made long before the expense arrives at Treasury to be paid. In the case of DoD, installations have budget analysts who review
Approvals are made at the installation level based on a multitude of criteria and sent to higher HQ for yet another review/approval. Expenditures/paymentsare then sent to the
MANY hands touch these payments before they are made.
More proof that they intend to damage / break the system for good.
Voters must fund their opponents with a national organization #target18 to stop the illegal behavior.
First-hand knowledge from someone who was actually there yesterday trying to talk to him.
And we were still over 43% blue.
How many people that are registered actually showed up to vote?
It matters the ones who are registered vote.
Most of them don't vote even if registered.
That's the problem.
Look at the demographic of people who are able to vote in the small and Metro counties. It is always less than 50% vote.
Those laws also pulled a lot of people from the rolls. And many of their registrations to get reinstated will refused.
We out number them 2-1 if we vote
Worried about the people who do want to vote can vote legally and their votes are refused or the removed from the rolls, not told they are, and refused to re-registration.
Never have been.
Open always over 40% blue in the state of Texas since the GOP got into power.
They just like to suppress voters registration, voters voices with lack of locations, etc...
We have a lot of military who had mail in ballot that were probably refused.
No election crashes the dollar.
No election equal loan call on $34 Trillion national debt.
No elections equal massive inflation and high interest rates.
Think Mad Max in reality
They have “elections” in Russia and Hungary too!
Press is fucking us not demanding audits in swing states.
That only happens ONCE
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
Btw look at poor Colorado, an island in the sea of red insanity. They were the first to try to do the right thing and kick trump off the ballot.
What are the Republicans going to run in? Killing the economy? Making Donnie King?
Throwing in the towel is how they solidify. So nah.
No elections leads to global financial meltdown.
No election crashes the dollar.
No election equal loan call on $34 Trillion national debt.
No elections equal massive inflation and high interest rates.
Think Mad Max in reality
It ain't the Democrats coming for your Guns!
Noooo Fuuuuucking clue
Getting ppl registered and voting can flip 8-12 of these seats if we FOUCUS or money and man power to overtake Elon’s checkbook.
PEOPLE are the power
May I add, include in those 20 mins, make calls and send emails to members of Congress to stop the takeover by President Musk and let Putin’s Puppet FOTUS know we are against his dictatorial executive orders.
The best thing you can do is turn up to an Office in person. The next best thing is calling their office, since it takes time.
Letters are number three on the list... and provide a nice physical reminder of how many people wrote in.
There are numerous local Dem clubs that are organizing protests at reps’ offices. Canyon Dems in Mission Viejo CA have an ongoing weekly protest
Good place to start.
https://bsky.app/profile/crampell.bsky.social/post/3lheobuos3k2r
Even Elmos boy wonders. And it’s not easy to just delete code either
You can hedge your bets if you file by mail. It's legal, so if things get better, you're all good. If it goes downhill, there's nobody to deal with incoming mail.
not giving anyone tax advice, do what you’re comfortable with.
File everything on paper by certified mail instead of online (except maybe the extension request) to see further delays. See how deleting free file works out for them.
Hired IRS enforcers brings in money because they can audit serious tax dodgers. You know, Elon's friends.
But, there isn't much staff to enforce it. I have returns filed 5+ years ago that still haven't been processed/looked at so unless Congress passes a bill to fully fund IRS…
What would MLK do?
DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THEM! Think b4 doing.
Protect before doing!
#DEFUND👑?
They are counting on you all being quiet, cowed & obedient
Is it because he is rich & our system has a double standard?
I've never needed to know this, but I thought interest kicked in immediately. I've heard 90% for penalties.
Now, there's no telling.
But I like that you are thinking, "What can we do?"