Just in: TikTok says it plans to shut itself down Sunday unless Biden publicly pledges non-enforcement. TikTok wants everyone to be sure Biden is to blame, which conveniently also curries favor with Trump.
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A statement from Biden now would be important but also meaningless. Important legally for the few hours left in his term but also meaningless because of his lame duck status. Everyone knows that on Monday at noon it’s a whole different ballgame. Which makes the shutdown costless to TikTok.
The *only* statement to be made is that this is the result of American democracy working as it was intended; Congress passes legislation, the President sign it, the law goes into effect. https://youtu.be/FBpdxEMelR0?si=m13yNyph_i4Yn5Mk
For all the people saying “Of course Biden is to blame”: The thing you’re missing is Biden very much wants not to be blamed. TikTok isn’t letting him off the hook and wants everyone to know it https://bsky.app/profile/brianfung.me/post/3lfu4kuntgk2g
Hopefully, the average Tik Tok user comprehends “blackmail” and lays the temporary shutdown of Tik Tok at the feet of FOTUS, Apple, Google, Musk, Zuckerberg,….
This storm in a teacup started with FOTUS in 2020 when FOTUS who viewed it as a national security threat got the ball rolling.
Everyone saying Biden is to blame are fucking morons who haven't been paying attention for the last several years. This is not surprising. Trump won't save it.
It doesn't matter if Trump saves it or not. All that matters is while Trump talked about banning it. The only people who actually made a law banning it and signed it is Biden and dems. They even went to supreme court to keep banning it. Of was all over tiktok.
Who gives a fuck about TikTok when a serial sexual predator & fraudster is about to take away the freedoms of every U.S. citizen in the country. TiKTok doesn't give a fuck about the users, they only care about access to their data, to continuing to use Americans/Canadians as their propaganda/2
He’s not going to be president in 72 hours, give him a fucking break. This whole thing is manufactured stupidity and everyone is being willingly sucked into its vortex
Biden believes in the structure of the US Constitution. What he feels isn't what it was written for - that is one man's opinion. We have how many sitting in Congress and the Senate to represent a nation's best interests inside these borders...
It's actually hilarious. SCOTUS ruled. Biden already said his piece. TikTok can shut themselves down and let Trump go dark. How will he survive without video clips on his big return inside...
…what? People would be pissed at Biden for banning it, and give Trump credit for saving it. This is stupid, the average person doesn’t give a shit about China. They just like TikTok
Does it even matter if Biden gets blamed & Trump gets credit? Biden got blamed for the price of eggs. Trump gets credit for all kinds of things he doesn’t do. Biden just needs to give the middle finger on the way out
You want to accurately portray Joe Biden as responsible for the death of tens of thousands of Palestinian children while also ascribing him sole responsibility for banning a popular social media app? Are you one of the Pod Jons?
How is it Bidens fault? It was apparently the only thing the do nothing House could agree on over the past 2 years. Bill passed with a veto proof majority.
He supported the ban, he didn't ban it unilaterally though. Hell, Trump issued an EO while he was in office that prevented it from being downloaded saying it was a danger to national security.
The law doesn't actually censor anyone. To understand the free speech issues, Google the SCOTUS opinion on the TikTok case. Has a good overview of the issues, and why the law does not violate 1A. It's ok to disagree with their reasoning, but getting the facts right will help make a stronger case.
Who gives a shit what Tik Tok says. Stump will to be blame. Meanwhile that same POS tries to take credit for the Israel cease fire when he had nothing to do with it. Other than trying to figure out where Israel is actually located.
this is happening under Biden. if he doesn't want things to 'favor Trump' he probably should have been less of a fuckup of a president. The bar is low yet he still failed to clear it.
My favorite thing is how masterful the GOP and their goons play dems. Trump put forth the work for a ban, the GOP spent this term crafting one, managed a bipartisan version and because of its bipartisanship, Biden signed. Then Trump’s SCOTUS upholds the ban he set into motion but its Biden’s fault 👌
Please everyone in here concerned about First Amendment issues read up on Near v Minnesota (1931). This is a ruling that not a lot of Americans are familiar with, but one that governs the very high bar that a government must overcome in preventing speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_v._Minnesota
Biden should just declassify the intelligence reports around it. There’s a reason the law passed with major bipartisan support. The public should know what the truth is.
The Biden administration would have an interest to give TikTok at least those three months. Trump is just interested in selling it at lowest price to his oligarchs. So of course they pressure Biden.
Tiktok went dark tonight. Biden did nothing. Trump will give a 90 extension, and then it will happen again. Unless Tiktok sells, the president can do nothing more.
The ban on Tik Tok started with Trump & now the GOP SCOTUS has acted. Tik Tok owners will be front & center at Trump’s inauguration so they can drop to their knees, commit fellatio & pay him huge sums of money to get their way. The only question is are the Chinese too proud to do that or not?
Penguin pushes the cute girl off the ledge + releases a flurry of bats. She falls to her death, public fervor ensues, Gotham blames Batman.
Just another cartoon whodunit narrative.
Dems fell right into the TikTok trap. They should've never co-signed with Republicans to ban it. Always losing cause they have to do what's right all the time, while Republicans do what ever they want knowing Americans are to dumb to follow the breadcrumbs.
He signed the law. His signature. He made the ban.That thing was DOA when he came into office but he and the Dems gleefully participated in the sham hearings- attaching it to funding his beloved genocide in Gaza. I hate Trump and the fascists but Biden went out of his way to ban TikTok.End of story
This is like the ACA all over again. The lesson here is never ever ever meet the conservatives halfway. They will 100% blame all the problems on you after you give them what they asked for.
People like to nitpick and miss the larger point being made. At the end of the day, Obama and others did not insist on a single payer option, nor push hard on other higher objectives...which resulted in an ACA that was better than nothing, but a far cry from what most democratic countries offer.
No it wasn't. That was what the Massachusetts law was called because he was the governor who signed it into law. While parts of the ACA were based on the MA law, Romney never was in favor of the ACA and on a national level it was never called RomneyCare. Google it.
So the ACA is a federal copy of Romney care then? sorry if i didn’t include all the nuances you need 2 additional replies to fit in. characters are limited on here.
Not true. He originally actually believed he could get a few moderate Republicans onboard if he used a conservative heritage foundations proposal. It failed.
centrists hold the door open for fascists and it has ever been thus
some centrists/liberals (lbr they're two sides of the same coin) will get real upset at this thinking we mean they're deliberately, knowingly doing it. Sometimes that is the case, but the line is meant to highlight eg what you said
Why is Tik Tok so damn important to Americans? It will just be replaced by the newer and better thing. Some people used the platform to raise money for a cause important to them or connect with others but regardless of how they feel it can happen again…
Over 7 million US small businesses rely on TT. The Creator Fund provides direct income to users on the app. TT is responsible for $24.2b of the national GDP. That's why it's important. There is no other app that offers it's users that kind of monetary power.
Well the CEO of TikTok has pledge full loyalty to trump already. He will be at the crowning on Monday. He placed a video praising trump. Looks like he will be getting sloppy 4ths on the fat king’s a$$. He must line up behind Elmo, Bozo, and Zucker. Kissing the diapered one!
Who cares. Biden's legacy doesn't hinge upon this. He's done, ya'll. The Felon Almost in Chief will require a certain quid pro quo, and all of Tiky Tock will get back to whatever they do.
Not to mention huge economic implications. Over 7 million US small businesses are on there. Not to mention the personal income from the Creator Fund. TT is responsible for $24.2b of US GDP.
Last I checked, Biden and the Dems are the ones who pushed for this ban and Biden is the one letting the decision stand. Whether through hubris or incompetence the Dems have just put one right down the plate for Trump and the RNC. Biden deserves all the blame simply for his stupidity.
Is all Biden. He listened to the CIA anti China spooks and sponsored the ban bill and signed into law. If only the "intelligence" community would declare poverty a national security maybe an increase of the minimum wage could pass Congress.
Biden should explain to the TikTok asshat that Trump is President on 1/20, so any “promise” President Biden makes is moot in 2 days. The TikTok dude is going to the convicted felon’s inauguration; he should talk to him. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Isn't this the same bullshit as the Iranian hostages and the Gaza cease fire, both of which were held back through collusion with a Republican candidate, then released after his inauguration?
I guess we could all just pretend that both parties didn't send this to him to sign inside another bill. And we can also pretend that Tom Cotton wasn't just on the floor of the house seething at the idea it would not be enforced but yes blame Solely Biden.
Biden should simply reiterate that it’s the result of bipartisan legislation passed by an independent branch of the United States government and that the Tik Tok CEO can speak to trump on Monday when he attends the inauguration at trump’s invitation.
They are trying to force the President of the United States into making a public statement of their choosing. In other words, TT is ACTUALLY the monster that their biggest critics say it is.
What's more monstrous: trying to get the US president to release a statement in your favour, or sending tens of billions in weapons to slaughter tens of millions of children?
And it was the GOP that was so insistent on banning TikTok in the first place, so maybe Democrats should stop trying to Republican harder than Republicans next time.
I mean, Biden is to blame though? And he could publicly pledge non-enforcement but isn't, so it's kinda Biden that's doubling down here and currying the favor with Trump for TikTok, isn't it?
Let's stop pretending our problems don't have Democrats at the roots.
IMO, the best thing TikTok can do for the world is shut down. Then never start back up.
Fuck the young people who get mad about it. 1) Biden isn't running for office...ever again. 2) young people are the dumbest people (mathematically, even). 3) young voter turnout sucks shit, so why fear it?
Because it was attached to crucial aid to Ukraine and Isreal, an add on. He didn't write the bill. Catch 22 - and he gets the blame. I stand behind my statement.
It will be Bidens fault. And now a lot of people are on rednote. The cultural exchange is astounding. The United States Government has a much bigger problem now haha. And once again it is Bidens fault.
And if you believe that then you should give your brain back as you're not using it. You'll recall it was Trump that started the TikTok ball rolling in summer 2020. He owns this crap 100%. And perhaps you can explain why Americans are stupidly jumping over to yet another Chinese platform, RedNote!
A sale with no leverage, because everyone knows the government is making them sell or shut down. They’d be lucky to get half the platform’s actual value. Can’t blame them for playing hardball under these circumstances.
Who cares if it is shut down. What the matter with people? It is literally a tool for China and people r worried about their videos? No wonder democracy is losing
Shut it down and let him “save” it. I want to hear how it’s no longer a national security threat and how we aren’t worried about china getting our any more.
Take the fucking L and let creators keep their revenue. The farce of "data security" has already been exposed. Plus, since numerous Americans flocked to red note and report a positive experience so far - awesome job giving ppl incentive to directly funnel our data to China. Truly 4D chess shit.
It is a company playing the cards it has left in the best possible way. It hits Biden most, but to assume an agenda is a bit like blaming water for letting the dam break at the weakest point.
Turn TikTok off. It's the law and there are legitimate reasons for it. If Trump turns it back on Monday, it will be the first of many illegal acts of this term.
This is an asinine take. Millions have small businesses on there. Many make additional income for their families on there. Some things that can't be done on Facebook or insta. Trust me, I know. This is going to lead to millions being out of work. TT also provides $24.2b in US GDP.
I repeat...TikTok was launched Internationly in 2017, we were living without it before, even for SMBs businesses... and still can do. TT provides also a lot of TikShit, + new trend influencers no one bright enough really needs. I'm a buyer, I choose by myself, don't need any outside influence ;)
WWII ?? Because that's the period my parents and families lived in at young age and lost some members! And that's a period I definitly won't bring anyone back!
Biden should just temporarily defer enforcement until noon on Monday. It's easy for him to argue that the new administration should deal with it (as it will either way).
For real, though. The whole ban thing is weird, but I'm sooooooo freakin' done with people acting like TikTok is the last bastion of free speech when it's literally no different from any other content-sharing outlet. It's just not owned by an American billionaire, so it's good, apparently.
TikTok’s problems are precisely because it’s not owned by an American billionaire. Let’s see where it lands after Trump “negotiated” a deal. Elon and Zuck must be salivating.
They could have sold it to an American billionaire for billions months ago. They didn’t because making money isn’t what they are created to do. If they sell to a Trump crony, it will be a sign of a political alliance, not regular business.
I’m not saying they’d want to. I’m saying the American billionaires have been dying for it. Biden opened the door for it to happen. Trump will seal the deal.
And I’m the one saying they’d “want to.” It would represent a fusing of the Chinese government’s interests with Trump. It just means Trump got enough financial remuneration from them to keep their propaganda apparatus going.
I mean, it *is* different than other platforms in that the data it collects is available to the Chinese govt whenever they want it. Comprehensive data privacy for all platforms is needed, and btw it should include not handing data on Americans to Chinese govt.
Both the Far Left and the entire Right has accepted the framing that “Free Speech” means absolute deference to anti American propaganda and absolutely nothing else.
Not about free speech, it’s about control. All the other apps and I do mean collect more data than TikTok. All the others have had serious day breaches, TikTok has had none. All about control.
You missed the point which is if TikTok is banned for fear of leaked info, they should all be banned. Zuckerberg sold our private info and medical info. He’s running a monopoly. Yet nothing is done Meh.
i don't know bro! maybe it's costs, maybe they don't want to sell their best-of-class algorithm, or maybe they're just bluffing. idk! why do they have to sell their flagship product just because USA is scared of international competition? (and bc Dems were stupid btw)
Hope ByteDance reads this. it seems you have a fine career in corporate marketing ahead of you. Best of luck. Hope you establish a dynamic new paradigm.
It's not 'shutting down'. The rest of the world will keep on using it. It's only the US trying to sell the narrative that social media not controlled by the US is dangerous. I'm beginning to think that China controlled social media is probably the lesser of two evils.
CNN is reporting how the Chinese government and many of their people like Trump, as if they're sincere. China and others are doing this because they know that to get something from a malignant narcissist like Trump, you praise him.
Imagine they “save” tiktok, only to have everyone leave it after selling to one of the three Trumpeteers (musk, zuck, or bezos) and something like @skylight.social takes its place 🥰
Yeah I’m sure you’re right. Liberals really know what they’re talking about. They know how to win elections and are good at electoral politics, just ask them! No, don’t look at results, just ask them.
I think the fact it’s just more evidence that Democrats don’t care at all and have banning TikTok as a priority - after all the failures of the Biden administration THIS is their last impression on the people they failed. It’s about so much more than just TikTok, TikTok just adds to the absurdity.
Please, please, please Tik Tok shut down and see how much we could care about your threats to the empty suits and China is going to have to sell the bitch to the highest bidder and if Elon Musk ends up owning Tik Tok, he will bring down The Peoples Republic of China faster than you can say TIK TOK!
And what happens if the government decides to shut down another social media app? What happens if the government decides that something you created to bring people together is a “national security threat”? This is less about TikTok and more about freedom of speech.
You can blame Biden all day long, wtf does he care? He's out and done. Stinky is the prez as of Monday, he's gonna have to start dealing with shit or else take the blame.
Excuse me. Biden is the one who did this! He didn’t like the criticism he was receiving on his policies, Ukraine and Israel! He signed the law and only this week tried to pretend it needed an extension so Trump would be blamed!
Trump also wants to be the guy who makes ceasefire/'peace in the middle east' happen. It's not actually something he personally gives a shit about, but he'll know one of the reasons the Ds haemorrhaged the youth vote was vocally & enthusiastically saying they would keep giving funds etc to Israel
All he can actually do is state that as long as he is president it will not be enforced. Then it is up to the new guy. Beyond that nothing he pledges would matter.
Struck down by the supreme court, saying an act of Congress was required. So then Congress and Biden spent years negotiating with TikTok to avoid a shutdown, and when negotiations failed, 80% of lawmakers in Congress (both parties) voted to shut them down unless they divested. They did not.
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Why is he begging Joe Biden for assurances?
https://youtu.be/FBpdxEMelR0?si=m13yNyph_i4Yn5Mk
Oh wait, it very much wasn’t
“The Senate passed the long-awaited foreign aid package Tuesday in a 79-18 vote”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna148685
This storm in a teacup started with FOTUS in 2020 when FOTUS who viewed it as a national security threat got the ball rolling.
Are you really this dumb?
🔗: https://justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-statements-supreme-courts-decision-tiktok-et-al-v-garland…
I just like my President to follow Truman's motto, that's all.
Have a nice weekend.
That shouldn’t stop Biden from doing the right thing.
It’s an act of Congress remember
Just another cartoon whodunit narrative.
https://myferretsatepepethefrog.blogspot.com/2025/01/no-on-bigotry-conservatism-and-stupid.html
https://www.finance.senate.gov/meet-steve/steves-priorities/health-care-reform-timeline
some centrists/liberals (lbr they're two sides of the same coin) will get real upset at this thinking we mean they're deliberately, knowingly doing it. Sometimes that is the case, but the line is meant to highlight eg what you said
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Just, shut them down.
Trump will swear to "faithfully execute the laws"
Well this iS the Law, so he better administer the law.
Fuck those guys.
And ByteDance is fucking Biden.
Nobody has use for corrupt liberals. They are the most hypocritical parasites in the whole political system.
Trump won’t enforce a Federal Law
That’s his job
Not even calling him President Biden.
No wonder the CEO is at the inauguration.
Shut down.
He GAVE this to Trump
This is all bulls**t.
Let's stop pretending our problems don't have Democrats at the roots.
Fuck the young people who get mad about it. 1) Biden isn't running for office...ever again. 2) young people are the dumbest people (mathematically, even). 3) young voter turnout sucks shit, so why fear it?
Course they might not have to choose - seems to be as easily repeatable trick from China's end.
it won’t be soon but it’ll be awesome when that garbage platform dies off
Who could have imagined
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flounce
What gringos didn’t get what they wanted?
Hope ByteDance reads this. it seems you have a fine career in corporate marketing ahead of you. Best of luck. Hope you establish a dynamic new paradigm.
We are in the shallow phase of journalism.
Also: Although it was bipartisan:
Schumer, Jeffries and Johnson all voted for the legislation that could result in TikTok's ban.
Trump was the first who originally wanted it! Got paid and changed his tune.
oh damn that changes everything
They tried to shut down Limewire too kids
China had 270 days. Did nothing. Now they are blaming Biden for signing a security threat? The bully is blaming the bullied. 9 months later
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/20/tiktok-bill-passed-explainer-00153472