The Telegraph going after the Quakers because the Quakers won't be assholes to trans people.
That opening paragraph by Daniel Martin is lol. It's Helen Joyce doing the accusing.
That opening paragraph by Daniel Martin is lol. It's Helen Joyce doing the accusing.
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sadly.
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This perfectly sums up the current attacks on trans folks fundamental human rights.
How TERFs can think THEY are ‘most vulnerable’, with far right £Ms and time to spare, is fucking astounding.
The resolve of the Quakers is legendary and will be a well of strength for all who seek to overturn this evil in the years to come.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Universal_Friend
Also, Helen Joyce can go suck a rotten sausage. She’s just a deluded patriarchy foot soldier.
Framing is important. Few sources talk about tried & true Women's spaces, as they already exist & function perfectly. It's all about the Orwellian language change to "Female".
Great statement in the final paragraph though; classic Quakers.
There is that of god/the light/the universe in everyone … no matter the wrapper it comes in.
She like other trans haters aren’t about finding solutions & accommodations . They just want to hate & destroy .
Then nothing with respect to trans people will destroy her "credibility"
The problem is not trans women. The problem is patriarchy pitting various groups against each other to distract from the fundamentally abusive patriarchal hierarchy.
People who are afraid to make things try to break what others make.
I don’t think of myself as misogynistic. I just think we must consider all variables, or we will not be able to address all the issues. We cannot be blindsided by gender we have to examine all contributing factors.
That Quakers wish to be seen as anything other than what is presented, or care about status or approval is to fundamentally misunderstand who Quakers are.
Quaker Yearly Meeting decided this policy, together, collectively, as they do everything.
In my defense, there are *many* people who share this name.
I can't imagine carers are paid even nearly enough to deal with her toxicity - that pay scale might bankrupt the care sector entirely.
https://prunescape.fandom.com/wiki/The_Reply_Given_in_Arkell_v_Pressdram_(1971)
But apparently in some countries it's more like 'church', instead of traditional English Quaker worship (which is 'silent waiting')
I sat silently in regular meetings for months or a year, never giving ministry. Then one day I felt COMPELLED to speak. I was shaking. It was so weird.
I THINK it's an old radical 15th-century tradition of listening to the Spirit (which speaks to all souls equally), instead of rote performance of scripture/ liturgy prescribed by priest. It's also against the notion of priests wth special authority.
* By me, right now
Haw Haw. 😉
Director of the patriarchal pressure group "Sex Matters" and author of a million press releases.
A final one, perhaps.
At the very least you'd think they end up somewhere close to this:
These people are morons.
"Great, thanks, another day fighting the fight for women"
"What did you do?"
"I went to a national newspaper to say the Quakers are wrong for not persecuting a minority"
Because that prospect - happening right now - is just more patriarchal perversion that conveniently subjugates all women.
Absolutely batshit.
The Quakers will always be sensible.
My mum told me from an early age that if ever I didn’t feel safe in a city, to head for a Quaker meeting house. And she was a catholic.
What Helen Joyce thinks about anything, let alone sex, really ought not to matter.
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They have continued to be on the right side of history
There, fixed the headline for you.
if you shit on quakers for not following this bigotry you should question your life choices
The Quakers are still here.
He passed before I transitioned, but this all gives me comfort that he would have had my back.
Also see ‘furious response/reacted with fury’ for same phenomena…
https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/6mjtiw/how_is_piers_anthony_not_a_pariah/
I always thought she was odd af.
Well said them.
(And I don’t like to use the word because of the ableist connotations, but yes, I can see the temptation to say that with any GC you can just remove the “oxy”.)
You know you've fucked up when the Quakers are after you.