I have no patience for "that's what they get" replies. I don't care the fuck anybody voted for or didn't vote for. The people whose lives are being destroyed by Trump are not my enemies. Period.
I don't want anyone harmed. I want the harm to stop.
I don't want anyone harmed. I want the harm to stop.
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Sometimes you have to kill them.
A lot of us gave Trump voters grace in 2016 thinking they would learn their lesson. Most if not all of them didn't.
But liberals/progressives/leftists can't design a society around the punishment of people who think differently than we do
We just have to build a just and equitable society, and hope to convince as many people as possible of its merits
"But what's in it for me? Everyone's getting treated better... but what about me? Can I not look down on them? Can I not be disgusted at difference? Can I not be treated the best?"
It's when they're actively engaging in harming others in the moment that we should condemn and shame.
2016, sure, I could forgive them. 2020, much harder. 2024? No excuses.
May all beings experience the consequences of their actions.
May all beings learn from the consequences of their actions.
May all beings learn compassion from realising the harms they commit hurt other beings which are like themselves.
I'm a third-generation immigrant. I'm non-binary. I'm autistic. People who vote for me to suffer because I am part of multiple out-groups treat me like an enemy. It would be foolish for me to befriend them.
i look back in regret at all the "usa vs jesusland" memes i shared in the w bush era
It’s really that simple. Nothing anyone else does justifies me abandoning my morals or beliefs.
Collective punishment is wrong, no matter who it happens to or why. Simple as.
I'm pretty sympathetic to the pragmatic argument for targeting specific cconstituencies like that. Is it even possible to pragmatically support something like sanctions w/o also on some level morally sanctifying the sadism involved?
Then again, these days I have no idea who is a bot or a state-actor online.
You go ahead and be nicer to nazis.
I do not wish them harm. They do not get a pass.
Back in 08 the Dem coalition was relishing the W admin driving the country into a wall. Our reward was 60 seats in the Senate.
If you let the fascist regime time to develop and take hold the whole world will blame every American for letting it happen.
Not sure turning the other cheek is the most effective response to “Fuck you, causing suffering is part of the point.”
I don’t want anyone harmed either. Which means rejecting the people who seek to harm me and those around me. They can lose everything, and hopefully learn from it.
It's more like you reap what you sow. Are you ready to stop fucking around and stop him is the follow up. If you can't admit you're wrong, that's what you get.
There's going to be expressions of that, and telling those angry people how they express should be moderated is going to go poorly.
I guess it hits differently for some of us. Probably especially those kids.
Those people are not in a moral lapse, and it's not morally better to refrain from expressing how they feel.
I guess being cis and white helps someone feed the delusion that we can just hug it out and turn trump voters who want us gone into allies
That’s just an observable, demonstrable fact.
So I’m not sure you’re there yet.
You should give a GIANT f—k.
That if only these Trump voters weren’t subject to a blitzkrieg of conditioning from Trump Team, GOP, Fox, Donors, etc - that they would magically unite with Dem voters against these forces.
But sadly it’s both.
Top down and bottom up.
When the response to, “If you stick that fork in the electrical socket, it’s going to be bad” is, “That’s just a Chinese hoax,” I’m starting to worry we’re in uncharted water.😢
All the people who voted for Trump had been told not to.
But I don’t want them hurting like this. That doesn’t make any of us safer. Quite the reverse. And the better part of me doesn’t want them hurt for their own sakes.
I'm saying that if all I know about you is how you voted last November, I don't know whether you're a good person or not.
It sounds like you don't want to accept reality when people show you what they're really like
I'm a middle-aged lesbian: people who voted for Trump are my enemies. I do not care if their lives are being destroyed by the consequences of their vote, because they sure AF didn't care about what it would do others.
Let them suffer.