@kaine.senate.gov is exactly right, and this should serve as notice: Push back on the lies and liars... Don't let mistatements or disinformation go without a strong response EVERY TIME
Letting the lies propagate freely without pushback is a great error: People will believe them unless you push back
You cannot beat around the bush with a vocabulary that doesn’t call a LIE a LIE! You are NOT holding this person to account. She is straight up LYING. This is why we keep losing, Senator! We are counting on you in CONGRESS to do your part.
Stefanik is one of those that hears a question, ignores it, and answers the question she wishes she was asked.
A denier, liar and obstructionist. She'd sell her mother for trump if told to.
Posting the numerous links vs the 1 propaganda “the links mean facts”memes are just made up propaganda bs. It’s time to start throwing links at their faces.
How about this: Nazi adjacent MAGAs are for open prison cells, flooding our country with MAGA criminals and allowing them to vote and attack our lives because human rights are too scary for them.
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It’s not a fantasy. It’s a LIE. But he won’t use that word because he is showing respect for a system that no longer exists and respect to a person who merits exactly NONE.
You can say that again !!! I’m go tired of having realign my friends because half of them stopped believing facts and truths but make this biggest lies into golden dreams that they spread all over the country !
We accepeted millions of immigrant workers for decades, contributing to the U.S. economy, building lives, only to decide we don’t want them anymore? putting everything they’ve worked for, and even their children's citizenship, at risk?
The entire WH website is being revamped and updated. It's only day 2 of a new administration. It wasn't intentionally removed and will be part of the updated site. A quick Google search would have told you that. So it's a "lie" that "Trump removed it" implying he doesn't want it there.
If a picture of the felon President with “America’s Back” can be placed on the site…the constitution could have remained during rework. The constitution was removed with malicious intent.
This woman is trash. Did nothing but stir up shit in NY and wouldn't even debate with her last opponent who is trying to get elected to the open seat here now.
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Whoa there Senator that was a brutal response. No really, this is a perfect example of about as lame as it gets response to a MAGAt. How about this: You and the GOP MAGAts killed a BIPARTISAN border bill cause your treasonous felon cult leader told you too. That makes you a liar, now doesn't it.
OMFG it certainly does, make her a flipping LIER‼️You can't FIX the border, unless CONGRESS who controls the purse strings, appropriates the funding to do so‼️The GOP will not be happy with less than the National Guard taking over our Southern Border‼️
The border bill also stated that along with closing the border, we the tax payers could build a stadium for, I believe, the Washington Commanders football team. I NEVER. Would want 1 cent if my money going to support an adult professional sport team. That bill was a mess. Too much junk in it.
Again the felon needed that bill to fail, why did he want that so bad? to use the border as a cudgel. It worked. If Dems had won, bills can be made better once you are in majority. There is crap in every bill, for me a stadium would not be worth losing an election over. But I respect your view.
Seriously this can't continue. If it does we are screwed. I have lived my life, I am so concerned for my family and upcoming generations. And it truly is not looking good, we NEED FDR Democrats, he literally welcomed all the hate from the rich and those opposed to the NEW DEAL. Welcomed their hate.
Dems simply need to call a thing a thing, i.e., call a nazi a nazi. When they lie to their faces, call them the liars that they are. Stop allowing them to escape responsibility for their prior statements & actions
You can’t call anyone a liar in any House, Senate chamber or committee. If you do, you’re sanctioned. In other words you can’t call Republicans out on their b.s.
I used those words to make obvious points. Hammer her/GOP on killing the bill FOR TRUMP. That is fact. Period. If she denied then that is lying. We need to stop worrying so much about rules and such cause they sure as hell don't. That's our problem. Weak.Look whats happened in just two fucking days.
I agree with you, but remember during a 2019 impeachment hearing in the Senate, Schiff accused Trump’s attn of lying. The attn did, but John Roberts insisted Schiff walk it back. Meanwhile the lie stood. If you ever listen to Repubs in the House, they lie incessantly. Good luck challenging them.
Well being afraid to challenge is never the answer either. Gets you nowhere. Especially now, the country is teetering on many fronts and it is overwhelming us. And we've only had a few days of the felon's bulldozing norms, the constitution, rule of law and our democracy.
The felon wanted it dead and then used that to bitch every day along with our lousy press chiming in about open borders, open borders.... every day before the election. And it worked obviously. So Please.
It all boils down to the LIE Sen. Kaine refuted, constant insistence that Dems want open borders. It NEEDS firm pushback every single time it's brought up. Same with benefits illegals DON'T receive. If these LIES didn't work for his campaign, the border bill wouldn't be an issue. It would've passed.
At least we love our constitution and do not pay homage to Hitler's salute and let fucking traitors who beat the shit out of police officers go free. And we certainly do not want a fucking felon and rapist in the WH. So go practice your sieg heil.
How about this reminder: Republicans haven’t put a border bill on the floor for a vote since Reagan. That’s right, 40 years, all while deep sixing Obama’s and Biden’s efforts. I’ll not listen to a word of border bitchin by Rs until they get in the game and do their job.
Honestly... this is probably more effective then trying to present the pure facts to Republicans. They don't believe any information that doesn't come from their "trusted" sources or First Lady Trump's mouth, so straight to the gut needs to be the Democrat message going forward.
Toady Republican obstructionist philosophy/behavior: lie about everything, do nothing to foster legislation for ALL people, incite and support chaos, fear, and distrust in one another and obey in advance. It’s absurd to call themselves patriots, tearing down every legal guardrail of protection.
The Republicans just make up shit and it takes off in their echo chamber. Then even if debunked…the damage is already done. Many will never hear the truth. And the strategy is working.
EVERYTHING the MAGA white racist evangelical fake christians assert is a deliberate lie, or one of their delusional fantasies. Like other rats the MAGAs have a Pied Piper" = Trump.
Pied Piper = The term "pied piper" is a metaphor for someone who uses charm or false promises to attract a following.
Yes, people who have a significant weight loss will show those effects - but oddly enough, there are a lot of reasons for weight loss that have *nothing* to do with Ozempic. And even if she's on Ozempic, how about let's not shame people for trying to lose weight, OK?
👍 there’s a common misconception that the “left” is weak and that we become them if we act like them
And for those on our side who don’t like going on the offensive because even our words may offend them, there are going to be things they don’t like hearing, but they need to be said
This is what Repubs want: division among democrats. The Democratic leadership in the past 4 years has produced the greatest economy in our history, expanded human rights and progress.
She needs to be godsmacked,
it's coming...what a sniveling pathetic POS excuse she is
She needs to be disbarred,lose any licensure if any held,fined,maybe some jail time-
Let her swear under oath+start locking up these fake phony frauds!
*🤥🤡Trump's hand wasn't on the bible so was he really sworn in?
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Sorry, I thought we weren't supposed to comment on women's appearances and weight loss—or is that only when we like their politics? She's a vacuous yes-man and that should be the knock on her, not her weight or the losing thereof.
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Democrats demonstrated that they are not equal to the task of defending law and order, much less democracy. They just delivered the American people into the hands of a dangerous felon and his associates — and smilingly entertained him to a posh afternoon tea, because they are privilege not justice.
I am as far as it is possible to be from the GOP — but the problem is that the Democrats are too Big a Tent, which means they don’t collectively stand firm for much, they fight among themselves, and the “moderates” (the right-wing old guard) ensure that progress is watered down. They’re a decoy.
Please don't just share on this forum. Tell your reps in DC what you think. Resist. It only takes a few minutes and best of all..it doesn’t cost any money.
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
They could start by following Rep. Raskin’s trend of pointing out facts, such as mentioning the president is an adjudicated sex abuser and convicted felon, during their debates/speeches.
They should at least go on Fox/Newsmax etc as much as possible and repeat this truth about our new president
Open borders implies that there are no security checks, no background checks, which are necessary because of terrorism, drug, and human trafficking. But I agree that immigration should be encouraged and immigrants should have a legal pathway to citizenship.
People will say - but our population growth would devastate the environment and hurt the poor bc wages would go down. To that i say we need a minimum wage that is much higher and to protect all open land in our country so farms and wild places are protected.
If we had regulated and basically open borders, our defense forces could focus their attention 100% on terrorists. The human trafficking industry would be crushed because everyone would have a legal path to enter and no one would need to be trafficked. Legalize and regulate drugs too.
Still they don't realise that they gain literally nothing from turning right, from supporting bipartisan action on immigration. It will never be enough for them. You're just alienating your base.
I’m so fucking tired of Democrats giving MAGAts a free pass when they claim the Trump has “a mandate to rule,” or that he won by “an overwhelming majority.” In the final tally, he didn’t even eke out a victory by 1% of the popular vote. Of those who cast ballots, more voted AGAINST him than for him.
Why did his party not hammer those last three points relentlessly during the campaign? Accomplishments and policies do not matter unless they are relentlessly messaged to voters.
She is correct that one of the top issues for voters was border security, he was correct that the Democratic party supported comprehensive legislation to address it which was promptly killed by the Republican party, and yet Democrats were completely silent on it during the campaign.
Do you want your scumbag faves to get credit for having the same racist genocidal inclinations as Republicans? It has never won them a single voter ever and it makes their base not bother to come out
Well, like ultra-conservative 700 Club Pat Robertson even said, they lie so much, they believe their own lies in their "alternate reality." Even he got fed up for a while with Trump's lies about the election being "stolen"--but soon got back on Donny's delusion train. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/pat-robertson-trump-2020-election/index.html
She is also an election denier. Elise stated early she would not support this election if Trump lost either as she did his loss in 2020. She is rotten to the core. Know who his choices are. They have been in his private military for years.
One of my biggest peeves. It’s not misinformation, or a slant on or alternative truth, or a different opinion, or misrepresentation. When it is purposeful it is a LIE. So sick of the media , especially, purposefully lying to minimize it all and avoid calling it out for what it is.
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Pretty sure disinformation is the right term for intentionally lying, not misinformation. So yes, in other words, the media (also) lies right in our face with their word choice.
I was just saying this same thing to someone the other day. Why do we use warm, fuzzy words like “misinformation” and “disinformation” to sugar-coat LIES? They lie. Period. Call it out for what it is.
Repugnants might use that as a talking point but it's a weak defense since SC Rep Joe Wilson screamed You lie at President Obama in 2009.
Plus Felon has tossed all the rules over the cliff anyway.
IIRC, the Senate Committee rules of order and decorum prohibit outright saying it’s a lie… Or, at least that seems to be how the rules are enforced when the Committee Head is is in the Red Party…
It seems there’s some nuance to it - one can say that a statement is false, and can (and should) provide evidence to counter the false statement (though rarely is that done any more) but they aren’t supposed to say that someone is a “liar”.
Tim Kane is a long time member of Congress fighting for our country and against tyranny, with common sense encourage! He is so good at calmly explaining the lunacy of the Republicans and actually engaging in real conversation. So proud of him!
Fuck a license, fuck a tag, and fuck the reflective vests...
All you need is some Freedom and some god forsaken Murican bravery
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Call it what it is - a blatant lie to create division and distrust. And to create chaos so the #DICKtator in charge can achieve his ultimate goal. Filling his pockets and selling America to the highest bidder.
Nothing to ponder. Every one of Trump’s nominees lie because Trump is a consummate liar. No Democrat should be approving these nominees who lie as a matter of course in their confirmation hearings. And frankly lying is the least of what many have done.
They have repeatedly voted to allow migrants to come in unvetted.
15 million by some estimates.
Tim Kaine should at least try to be honest.
They lost the election trying to lie to the American people by telling them everything was fine on the border.
Maybe they should abandon that BS strategy
Tim, Tim, Tim there you go again injecting facts into the conversation. You should know by now that facts are not factors in the GOPs thought process. Are you trying to confuse them and make them think? You should also know that thinking is not usually called into play when the speak.
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.....what?
That's not at all relevant or an answer to what I asked. Very good Trump imitation, tho. Completely ignore the qyestion/topic at hand and say some random shit 😂 brain shaped like a fuckin marble
Trans people have become a boogeyman & scapegoat for these facist fks. Despite being less than 1% of the pop & just wanting the same respect for their identity everyone else is given automatically. The right is willing to shit all over reality & science to take rights using them as a political tool
Yeahh I know. It's just so fucking aggravating. Every turn we are the topic of discussion by the right when all we wish to do is exist. Pronoun usage is NOT as widespread as the right believes it to be, we are not large enough to oppress. It's aggravating they believe otherwise.
Also, since you brought it up, the right are the ones OBSESSED with identity politics. Last election Trump spent actual millions on anti trans ads whereas Kamala barely mentioned them at all - if she ever did. You’re a victim of propaganda
Idk where you are in the world, cus I couldn’t care less to find out, but at least in the US there is no far left. You live in a fantasy world if you think otherwise. Or do you really think the people doing nazi salutes, curtailing human rights, destroying the environment, etc, ARENT nazis?
Irony is Elise Ozempanik wanting to ban and criminalize certain other people and their doctors from using medical science to change or control their own bodies to make themselves happy.
I would just like to point out that donald trump has been hiring undocumented immigrants for his businesses for the past fifty years.
AND NOT ONE EFFING DEMOCRAT HAS EVER MENTIONED THAT !!!
FOX Entertainment News needs to be bombed. Every single fuck working for them needs to be rounded up and shot. None of the interlopers will ever watch CSPAN- if it's not on FAUX, it didn't happen.
It's not even that, it's misinformation intended to defraud the election process. I say it's plain and simple election fraud that corrupt politicians made into invalid laws.
The wording is still weak….it’s not a fantasy like princesses and dragons….. it’s an outrageous lie to promote an evil policy of mass incarceration and deportation of innocent men, women and children..
“You’re either a liar or you’re stupid” is my favorite way to describe most politicians. Based on Stefanik’s educational credentials, I don’t think she’s stupid.
I don't EVER wanna hear anyone from the GOP say the words "overwhelming popular vote" when they literally just spent the last 4 years kicking and bitching about their guy LOSING BY 7 MILLION VOTES.
I'm so sick of these games‼️ It's like the GOP lives an alternative universe‼️How much legislation has been attempted the last 4 years, to finance the NEEDS of additional manpower, up date technology, and additional Immigration Law Knowledgeable intake personnel‼️
I believe they all have their "Orders" to repeat "overwhelming popular vote" at every chance they get. Heck, they probably have to practice those words at home as part of their homework.
It's exactly the same as their insanely scripted response to "Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 Election?" It's ALWAYS, "Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th President."
In the meantime, I don’t EVER wanna hear anyone from the GOP say words…PERIOD my ears are already filled with too much of their lies and bs. I’ve had enough
You know what's funny? Trump doesn't act like someone who has the overwhelming support of the majority of the nation. Ever. The Republicans don't, either. And the fact that they keep SAYING that they do is very, very telling....🤔
1. Trump just admitted he rigged the election.
2. Land doesn't vote.
3. This election had the closest numbers IN HISTORY. Thinner than the skid mark in your undies.
now juxtapose that with the population density. Land doesn't vote. People do. And while he may have won the popular vote, he didn't even get 50% of the vote.
Kamala got 75 mill votes- 3rd largest ever by a candidate. Trump got 77 milli- 2nd largest. 90 million did not vote. He didn’t even get a third of the potential voting population- certainly much less of a margin than when Biden won by almost 8 mill more votes than Trump in 2020 with 81 mill.
3rd parties got a few milll votes. Trump didn’t even get a majority among those who voted. What is interesting- what the hell was Trump bragging about at preinaug ball about winning some states because musk knew machines and how they tabulate- was that a soft brag about stealing election?
Exactly. Why use the word "fantasy?" It's a blatant fucking lie. And propaganda by the right wing insane GOP trying to scare people. It's the only way they get votes. Say all that and say it loud over and over again.
I’m a registered democrat and I voted for Harris……but this is the biggest problem with Democrats…..they are too nice! They bring a knife to a gunfight.
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Letting the lies propagate freely without pushback is a great error: People will believe them unless you push back
A denier, liar and obstructionist. She'd sell her mother for trump if told to.
But Americans chose the caucus
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They were loser 👽
A cunt is a cunt.
Pied Piper = The term "pied piper" is a metaphor for someone who uses charm or false promises to attract a following.
Just a useful idiot attack dog
And for those on our side who don’t like going on the offensive because even our words may offend them, there are going to be things they don’t like hearing, but they need to be said
power
it's coming...what a sniveling pathetic POS excuse she is
She needs to be disbarred,lose any licensure if any held,fined,maybe some jail time-
Let her swear under oath+start locking up these fake phony frauds!
*🤥🤡Trump's hand wasn't on the bible so was he really sworn in?
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-candidate-admitting-shes-not-paid-team-weeks-sparks-fury-1757803
She sure nuff did!
Bluesky we need that edit button
They must be vigorously called out on their constant lies and emphatically corrected. Don’t let them control the narrative!
Thanks, Senator Kaine! Good job!
Next time, say "insane fantasy," just because.
Wasn’t the price of eggs the top of people’s lists?
Kaine has been brilliant with Facts!Slap the
liars down!
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
https://www.nationalfinancialplan.com
They should at least go on Fox/Newsmax etc as much as possible and repeat this truth about our new president
Repeat anything enough and people believe it; the voters are uneducated and respond most effectively to agitprop
LIE.
It's a LIE Tim- not a fantasy.
Stefania is a LIAR.
A girl can dream.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/pat-robertson-trump-2020-election/index.html
Makes me wonder is creating euphemisms for the word lie is part of the curriculum for journalism majors?
Words matter a lot more than people think.
Plus Felon has tossed all the rules over the cliff anyway.
The only good Nazis are dead ones.
The Republicunts and MAGAts will all get what they deserve. Nazi hunting season is officially open, until every last one of them is gone.
All you need is some Freedom and some god forsaken Murican bravery
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Apparently, setting up efficient systems is far more effective than trying to be as cruel as possible.
15 million by some estimates.
Tim Kaine should at least try to be honest.
They lost the election trying to lie to the American people by telling them everything was fine on the border.
Maybe they should abandon that BS strategy
That's not at all relevant or an answer to what I asked. Very good Trump imitation, tho. Completely ignore the qyestion/topic at hand and say some random shit 😂 brain shaped like a fuckin marble
https://youtu.be/Wp6UBRv9rug?si=RWG2Ml3xzlBJvMv7
AND NOT ONE EFFING DEMOCRAT HAS EVER MENTIONED THAT !!!
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
No joke.
A lie.
It's fucking absurd.
The gaslighting only seems to work on them.
There are a LOT of empty spaces.
Ok ok .. So I’ve now seen this reply from about 5 of you blue haired freaks. I’m guessing this is the company line?
I learned something new today
2. Land doesn't vote.
3. This election had the closest numbers IN HISTORY. Thinner than the skid mark in your undies.
Please answer these 2 questions:
1) what year is it (all 4 numbers)
2) who is the President of the United States?