our elite kept telling us “Twitter is not real life” but they are, at this point, clearly so immersed in the sludge there that they think Nazi groypers are the median American and therefore treat outright racism as normal this is why we’re seeing no outrage over segregationist “anti-DEI” policy - ThreadSky

rincewind.run • 6 days ago

our elite kept telling us “Twitter is not real life” but they are, at this point, clearly so immersed in the sludge there that they think Nazi groypers are the median American and therefore treat outright racism as normal

this is why we’re seeing no outrage over segregationist “anti-DEI” policy

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morrocc.bsky.social•6 days ago

I am so tired and it hasn’t been a full month since he took office.

joshdobbin.bsky.social•6 days ago

Only "check your privilege" Twitter wasn't real life to them.

ac251.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think it's that and also: all the bad faith bullshit about cancel culture (and treating it as if it were a good faith concern from reasonable people) nerfed the reflex that would start the outrage rolling

hobopoet.bsky.social•6 days ago

That's why we need to push away billionaires (Cuban) telling us here that we should be holding space to debate the fascists.

It's actively supporting the spread of fascism. Don't engage and block anyone that's spreading the Project 2025 agenda.

bryceatwell.bsky.social•6 days ago

Musk created an army of nazi bots with AI feedback loops. They said for decades computers would rule us. It's happening now.

faerywings.bsky.social•6 days ago

I thought I would struggle a bit after I deleted my account. Not at all. I have no interest in reading disgusting drivel and rage-bait.

jeffbarrus.bsky.social•6 days ago

This is true for all the Democratic politicians who are still there and can't seem to comprehend the moment we're now in. Yet we're mocked for being in a BlueSky bubble.

observerbs.bsky.social•6 days ago

Partly. But Trump won a plurality of the popular vote and swept the swing states. Considering that I think many MAGATS thought he would lose, it "feels" like a big win or a big loss to many. Clinton's popular vote W was always a pretty good talking point.

drsidneyzweibel.bsky.social•6 days ago

The median American is a white privileged enjoying bigot who has been waiting decades for this racist revolt.

This is who the US is. It is who we’ve always been.

katieandcatburger.bsky.social•6 days ago

"social media isn't real life" is such a misunderstanding of what it means to be a person in relation to other people. Digital spaces ARE places.

geographile.bsky.social•6 days ago

People on social media are mostly real people, it's no more or less real life than church or college classes or the people at the dog park. We don't see all of a person in any given place.

ericmichaelmoberg.bsky.social•6 days ago

#Fire-the-Fascist-Oligarchs

Oligarch undertaxed wealth:
💰 Musk’s $402 billion
💰 Zuckerberg's $252 billion
💰 Bezos' $249 billion

Workers:
🛠️ 60% live paycheck to paycheck
🛠️ 85 million uninsured or underinsured
🛠️ 800k homeless

#Fight-for-Working-Families

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-elon-musk-tour-oligarchy-2030615

ericmichaelmoberg.bsky.social•6 days ago

houfek.bsky.social•6 days ago

Have they made separate schools and water fountains? I haven't seen that here in Texas.

cormorants0.bsky.social•6 days ago

As far as I can tell, "twitter is not real life" is a phrase that was very popular with centrists back when there was a reasonable argument to be made that twitter reflected real life but which has largely disappeared now that twitter is definitely not real life.

historiken.bsky.social•6 days ago

do they not realize that most of those posters aren't even people and a lot of the rest are fsb subcontractors

diamondlifeca.bsky.social•6 days ago

🎯🎯🎯

socialxstbutterfly.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think saying Twitter isn't real life is kinda dangerous. Remember before 2024, how much open racism and sexism appeared on the app (all over the internet actually) and everyone was like "they're trolls, ignore them" well the trolls were ppl in real life that we ignored too. And look where we are

wheresronald.bsky.social•6 days ago

Seems to be pretty popular with white people for something that is supposedly that not normal.

waluigiyaoi.bsky.social•6 days ago

A big part of it is that the American capitalist (and all the other elite classes that serve them) are so utterly disconnected from reality that they literally cannot comprehend the world around them. There’s so many levels and ways they do so and I still feel like I see a new one daily

aiddonvalentine.bsky.social•6 days ago

It definitely explains why a lot of them were parroting stuff about "shoplifter epidemic" "trans agenda" and "immigration crisis." These people are on social media constantly imbibing the most insane stuff but will never admit it

cubechan.bsky.social•6 days ago

By this point we literally need 9/11 2.

drsidneyzweibel.bsky.social•6 days ago

We need the rest of the civilized world to come together and kick our ass.

devans00.bsky.social•6 days ago

Coming of that day in motion. Senate confirmation of Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence DNI puts America on glide path to open hostility with former allies. Europe etc. reacts in self defense then the USA responds to flagrant disrespect and violations.
Away we go. 🇺🇸🥲

rebware.bsky.social•6 days ago

There’s lots of outrage, I guess just not in the right places…

mugwump-jr-the-3rd.bsky.social•6 days ago

They are willfully not on our side

famousmortimer.bsky.social•6 days ago

this is payoff for decades of conservatives working the refs. the thing elite journalists fear more than anything is being accused of liberal bias; & because of that, they can never leave twitter. so now they've internalized the idea that nazis are everywhere, but holding them to account is verboten

closereading.bsky.social•6 days ago

We must reject attempts to invalidate Liberal thought. Ability to critically think across disciplines is essential. When the skill is not clearly expressed, the writer/speaker sounds unserious. MAGA is Nazi and illiberal. Voters need access to how and why this is. There are many ways to say it.

johnbrownbread.bsky.social•6 days ago

Critical thinking is good but the framework of Liberalism itself has failed, and it was already failing before this. It is what got us this fascism. We cannot go back to the status quo

johnbrownbread.bsky.social•6 days ago

And by “liberal” I do not just mean the US democratic party. Here are my thoughts on the issue:

closereading.bsky.social•6 days ago

Regarding journalism, critical thinking in the academic frame of Liberal Arts Education, where ideas are brought into proximity, compared, and evaluated.

By “liberal bias” the “Right” or “Conservatives” are almost exclusively talking about social issues, generally from an antipathic position.

dsmechwarrior93.bsky.social•6 days ago

for what a lot of them know, its basically just 2015 but post covid sorta.

seamusjames.bsky.social•6 days ago

The public, need to act like the corporations and politicians work for us. Divest & boycott should be tantamount in everything we do
#GOOG #MSFT #APPL #META need to be held accountable for their traitorous roles in this coup
#EndCorruption
#EndUberWealth
#EthicalEconomics
#TheConstitutionIsSacred

maximumbob.bsky.social•6 days ago

That, and the fact Chuck Schumer is out there holding up avocado on press conferences and complaining about Trump not fighting inflation instead of having his hair on fire about the dismantling of our government.

anirula.bsky.social•6 days ago

To be fair, Biden tried that and everyone said he was a crazy d man.

maximumbob.bsky.social•6 days ago

And that didn’t work out so great.

rincewind.run•6 days ago

allowing a Nazi to buy and remake the driver of elite opinion was and remains a world-historical mistake

on-tannhausergate.bsky.social•6 days ago

We just didn’t see it for what it was in the moment because he didn’t really want to buy it, but then once he was made to buy it, he went all in on his fascist agenda

peppermintjack.bsky.social•6 days ago

[with angry tears in my eyes] once again, will stancil was right

sammiedidi.bsky.social•6 days ago

Would be cool if the rest of the world just made twitter.moon and made that like old twitter.
Completely stealing the old site and ignoring elon's crying.
Just run it on bsky's servers or something and claim its not beholden to earths laws.

acinonnap.bsky.social•6 days ago

There were a lot of people gloating about how the courts forced elon to complete the $44B deal, as if he wasn't getting a bargain (power > money). Grrr!

schroedinger.bsky.social•6 days ago

There was also a regular person reaction to "good, Twitter is slop anyhow, let it die" that I couldn't understand. It did take me a long time to get it, but my "aha" moment was back in like 2011 and it was how protest news was getting out of Iran, people were using the old SMS-to-text functionality.

schroedinger.bsky.social•6 days ago

Then I got interested in housing policy because I went on Twitter for live DC Metro updates and if you found yourself looking at transit Twitter you'd inevitably find housing Twitter. Then I got involved in local politics b/c I linked up with other YIMBYs via Twitter. It did a lot of good!

rincewind.run•6 days ago

and, frankly, it speaks incredibly poorly of so many of them that “I got annoyed by a leftist on Twitter so I prefer the company of open white supremacists” is the path they’ve chosen

joshlowe.bsky.social•6 days ago

They took the "guy shaving head and getting swastika tattoo while he says 'you made me do this'" comic as instructional.

pumpkinpal.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think what we're finding out is that the polite end of history consensus of the Bush Clinton Bush years was based on 2 lies:
That advertising worked well (propping up ad-supported entertainment)
and that meritocracy was real (propping up elite self esteem)

The Internet killed both, eventually

rincewind.run•6 days ago

legitimately, looking at what the Nazis on Twitter are talking about is now the best way to predict and understand government policy

pilargomez.bsky.social•6 days ago

I go and look to see what’s happening from time to time. Any half sensible tweet from
commentators or politicians has dozens and dozens of replies from rampant Trumpity accounts with those little blue ticks. Mostly paid grifters and fakes now. Sensible replies are virtually invisible.

trashpandamario.bsky.social•6 days ago

It's wild to me that the major outlets STILL aren't blasting Trump quoting Napoleon about ending democracy. In what universe is that not the top story of the day/year/decade/postwar era?

mi-forest.bsky.social•6 days ago

😭🤬

emdashel.bsky.social•6 days ago

Sure do hate to live in systems controlled by whiny babies, if they were so supreme because of immutable characteristics they wouldn’t be doing everything in their power to erase everything good about the world they didn’t create.

jaywillis.net•6 days ago

Micah, please, the blog post

rincewind.run•6 days ago

Jay I promise I will still read the blog post

jaywillis.net•6 days ago

that’s an ally

rincewind.run•6 days ago

not only did the boosting of blue check replies make the place unusable it vastly skewed how people saw the sentiment of the place because even the replies under sensible things are all filled with vapid bigoted garbage

“oh this seems reasonable, but everyone’s disagreeing with it”

notredale.bsky.social•6 days ago

The way to win is to not play. The “discourse” on Twitter that some say is worthwhile is the product they sell to literal Nazi advertisers.

Everyone should shrink that market by deactivating ASAP.

pa28.bsky.social•6 days ago

Sometimes I go there just to block advertisers. I know it is a useless gesture, but it makes me happy.

morganthemad.bsky.social•6 days ago

Oh god, I just realized. This is what happens when the government is technologically dependent, run by the technologically illiterate, and manipulated by technocrats who control everything they see online.

It's a fuckin' coup route via your grandma who believes everything on 'the facebooks'.

halihare.bsky.social•6 days ago

Useless to reply to bigotry with proof against them either cause most everyone's just gonna see that one initial comment.

maudlinmarionette.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yes, but I wonder how many of the boosted checkmarks were real people.

They seemed to come in two flavors. First, was the avalanche of one word replies like ‘Liar’ ‘Traitor’ ‘Clown’.

Second you had the account that just posted a retweet of a whole thesis paper on any tweet with 20 likes

mrmaresca.com•6 days ago

A person I knew in real life but had cut off because she went full MAGA-- for a while last year I'd still check what she was doing on Twitter, and I swear, if I didn't know she was a real person, I would have sworn she was a bot, because it was all Exact Same Replies to various politicians.

misterbone.bsky.social•6 days ago

You're doing the same thing here.

edwardtdean.org•6 days ago

What same thing is Micah doing?

misterbone.bsky.social•6 days ago

Telling people what to think In stead of thinking.

edwardtdean.org•6 days ago

How so?

misterbone.bsky.social•6 days ago

Ask an AI for for it.

edwardtdean.org•6 days ago

That would probably be just as productive

misterbone.bsky.social•6 days ago

I know, because I'm as well.

amymarie3456.bsky.social•6 days ago

It’s years of pent up resentment for being told they weren’t hired or promoted because they had to fill quotas when they weren’t hired because they weren’t as good. Had to “cater to trans employees who couldn’t take a joke”. Had to concede to women. Now, they claim, the workplace will thrive.

amymarie3456.bsky.social•6 days ago

I’m talking about the non-twitter lack of outrage and even glee because it’s gone. Entitlement runs deep. Talk radio, Fox, females who grew up as burdens using their body, appearance, opinions, identity and purpose in life to *be approved of and accepted by the man* just one of the guys.

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