frankly sometimes I wouldn’t mind more right wing folks coming on here just so people I like would stop screaming at each other for five minutes and go yell at them instead
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Yeah. Some massive account yelled at me yesterday bc what I wrote read as serious, not sarcastic. And it’s like sure, sic your 200k+ followers on me, someone with 350ish followers, probably a lot of bot/follow back ppl. Punching down at people on the same team is always a great & unifying thing.
I deleted my comment and blocked the big account because I don’t need that in my life. No one does. It’s just extremely toxic too online behavior. I swear having a large following is as rotting to the brain as having billions of dollars
Humans are really good at continually dividing ourselves. In an ideal world we'd get "the bad guys" out and be happy again. In reality, we're constantly finding reasons why "you're wrong and don't belong here."
I know but these debates are productive, sometimes at least hahaha. Debating with MAGAs is a lost cause, see why stupidity is worse than evil by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Yeah you can't even insult red states on here without at least one other leftist coming to explain gerrymandering and voter suppression and how you need to be more nuanced and specific 😂
Folks are too quick to block. A writer for the Beaverton of all things blocked me because I respectfully commented on a post where she chastised people for not reading all responses before commenting to avoid repetition. I told her it was unlikely I'd read 800 comments before posting. Blocked!!
Yup, plenty of chuds here. They don’t have a thumb out on the scale for them like on the new X, and this site doesn’t boost people just for being controversial like twitter always did, so they just aren’t popular.
The right wing's wersion of argument is ad hominem, circular reasoning, strawmans, false equivalencies, red herring, non sequiturs and a host of other logical fallacies.
I mean... why do you think RWers think this place is an echo chamber? They poke there heads out, say their Nazi shit, and EVERYONE dunks on them for a couple days until the RWer stops posting.
That's why all this "Woke leftist echo chamber" bs keeps going around, a decentralized front against Nazis
As soon as you find one that doesn't spew lies and hate and is willing to have a rational discussion, I'm in.
Too many people I know who are republican voters went from thoughtful people willing to talk about different views, careened into today's Republican bullshit.
Yeah, there is. When you see your way of life being sold down a river of already wealthy people, you tend to get really pissed.
I'm no different. I'm a senior who's worried about the safety net for us and the country that my grandchildren will have left.
Not missed, just not correct.
No one has tried to take a vote from them.
No one has told their woman they must carry a child.
No one took any program away from them.
No one told them they had to read a book they didn't agree with.
Their beliefs are built on the hatred of one man.
Sound familiar?
I love the moments whenever one of them fuckers show up and all the leftists, shitlibs, and resistance winemoms just instantly stop yelling at each other in unison to go fkn play "Bully the everloving shit out of the Nazi" on them.
All for hearing Ibn Khaldun, Hobbes or Strauss style conservative takes but I don't think that kind of stuff appears to beef tallow-gorged Christian nationalists.
I'm down with not allowing people who have ruined our country and are gleeful about it to feel any peace for having done so for as long as I continue to draw breath. I respect we all have different bandwidths for that though and people should block who they want
some people are apparently reading this meme as me complaining about the echo chamber and threatening to move to Twitter? have any of you looked at my post count
i disagree with this. it used to be this way i think but recently there seems to have been a large uptick in users here and i don’t think that’s the case anymore. they might not call you and idiot or an asshole directly, but you can tell that’s what they mean with their words and tone
It's not even just names like idiot or asshole, they will go on your profile, look at your pictures, and find the most vile ways to insult you personally. That's what they always resort to in those other places, and the negativity is reinforced and amplified. They never want to talk in good faith.
I think it was older than that. I can assure you I’ve been called those things.
I do try to be polite in my disagreement, but I like challenging narratives, because I cannot bring myself to believe that the people of this country are cleanly divided between lovely people and Nazi fascists.
As a dumb motherfucker that likes to actually just ask 'hey what does this mean?' or 'whats the context for this being an -ism thing' I love being able to ask these questions, get actual answers and grow/gain knowledge as a result! shit's so cool, wish more people would try it!
I don't, typically, engage in political discussion because the GOP only has lies and idiocy.
I would be willing but I will only block that BS.
What are you doing to "discuss" with the GOP?
Any of us in need of or having family members in need of their social security will be back on twitter soon enough. I personally do not want my seventy five year old mother exposed to that cess pool simply so she can know what is happening with her SS payment. And it is a HUGE government overreach.
Haven’t used Twitter for ages, but is it no longer possible to just follow a handful of accounts and only see those posts?
I haven’t used Facebook for many years, but my daughter’s Girl Guides group has a page there so I’m obliged to check it. But it’s easy enough to simply ignore everything else.
You make a very good point! I wish it were so. It's a psych. social division, IMO. Pattern recognition keeps finding arguments good, but ending in frustration ("Why can't you understand what I'm saying?" type). Birds are flipped and holes are sought by each to verify that the point they are
attempting to convey makes sense and has followers. Repeat process until there are imaginary walls, one side not venturing to the other anymore because of expectation of repetition. Sure, cognitive bias is a rolling element, from work to the store, back home on the net. I was yelling into empty
space earlier today (alone), playing out situations where I was a "leave me be" person coming to the public stage and cursing the ones that do harm into an imaginary corner that they had lost all relevance in the world at this point. I yelled that the destruction of the U.S. economy and relations
with the rest of the world were to be immediately undone and set back into place as they were before the current point of garbage were even a blink in some whack jobs' eyes. I demanded the rich were in the cross hairs of everybody and there are three choices they have, and no more. First, flee
the country. Second, stand up and admit your wrongdoings; be neutrally examined, and pay all back taxes, trades, offshore accounts, properties of all types used in place of money, income tax, property tax, creatively modified bills due, etc. You pay until your amount owed, by law, without BS
An uncomfortable amount of my feed is already people screen-shotting Old Twitter posts by those right wing folks and screaming at/about them. No need for them to post here with the dedicated screamers already pulling them here unwillingly.
In truth, I don't think the problem is ideological diversity. It's topical diversity that lacks. As a whole, most discussion on here is politics. Bluesky just needs more pop culture and hobbyist accounts. More music, fashion, art, sports, etc.
The artists are mostly interacting with other artists because damn near everyone else is annoyed at how the lot of them don't Alt-Text their shit.
But also yeah, this place is mad segregated, where is DNBSky? *Shrug* BikeSky? I dunno, there's next to no organic crossover so we have to actively look
My circles mostly all use alt-tags, but I imagine there are many who are less connected with my communities who do not. Agree there's not as much community overlap as there once was in the era when Twitter was thriving (pre-2016)
I honestly feel like Bsky needs an algorithm of sorts, just so posts don't just stay in their respective groups. Like artists are only seeing artists posts, politics ppl are seeing only politics, and so on. There needs to be some growth :v
artist interactions: "cool piece, i love how the painterly style builds tension with the clean geometric forms". "that one is $750 here is a link to buy it.". "oh, i wanted to discuss the underlying theme of isolation and-". "commissions are open"
Meanwhile, actual artist interactions: "aww, thank you so much, I worked really hard on it! 🥰"
(If they do ask for money it's usually because they can't afford their meds this month and their cat has a $2000 vet bill).
Artists aren't a monolith, idk, but maybe you're interacting with the wrong kind of artists? I don't know anybody who is selling any art for hundreds of $$, I'm talking about working class artists who are scraping by on commissions, freelance, and selling stickers and keychains at conventions. 😂
I joined a little before inauguration day/meta moderation policy change/tiktok ban threat...the events that drove the exodus from twitter/fb/ig/tt brought everyone here to talk about politics. If there wasn't something horrible in the news happening every damn day we could probably see some variety.
tbh it would be better for the right wing people in general; twitter and most other avenues they're on these days have radicalized so hard that the hitler particles broke containment
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That's why all this "Woke leftist echo chamber" bs keeps going around, a decentralized front against Nazis
I will say though that at leas I'm arguing with people that generally argue in good faith.
Isn't arguing kind of the basis for society? The Socratic method and all.
Too many people I know who are republican voters went from thoughtful people willing to talk about different views, careened into today's Republican bullshit.
I'm no different. I'm a senior who's worried about the safety net for us and the country that my grandchildren will have left.
That’s exactly what they think you’re trying to do to them too!
No one has tried to take a vote from them.
No one has told their woman they must carry a child.
No one took any program away from them.
No one told them they had to read a book they didn't agree with.
Their beliefs are built on the hatred of one man.
Sound familiar?
Complete the metaphor by having them already killed, severely crippled or dismembered and parts of their body worn as a costume by another.
Like have Ted Cruz only use Bluesky for his sports posts
I’ve never said this before, but we need a higher grade of Right Wing trolls.
These Leftists don't tolerate anyone who disagrees.
All I do is question, and I’ve been called a Nazi / Fascist / Right wing plant, among other things.
I like debate so sometimes I ask challenging questions. They’re not “right wing”.
This place is a mirror image of X.
I do try to be polite in my disagreement, but I like challenging narratives, because I cannot bring myself to believe that the people of this country are cleanly divided between lovely people and Nazi fascists.
I would be willing but I will only block that BS.
What are you doing to "discuss" with the GOP?
I haven’t used Facebook for many years, but my daughter’s Girl Guides group has a page there so I’m obliged to check it. But it’s easy enough to simply ignore everything else.
Going to need gif support, though.
But also yeah, this place is mad segregated, where is DNBSky? *Shrug* BikeSky? I dunno, there's next to no organic crossover so we have to actively look
(If they do ask for money it's usually because they can't afford their meds this month and their cat has a $2000 vet bill).
Maybe you’re not hanging out in the correct neighborhoods?