Many people (including me) have been warning for a long time that because of the gaping Labour vacuum around Brexit, the Tories may end up denouncing it first.
We're not there yet but we're much closer.
If the Tories do reverse-ferret Labour will end up stuck.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-tory-brexit-mistake-b2680251.html
We're not there yet but we're much closer.
If the Tories do reverse-ferret Labour will end up stuck.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-tory-brexit-mistake-b2680251.html
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They are alost cause.
Pandering to the far right will not work.
Labour too ponderous and Starmer seems to think he can get a unique deal - a Half Brexit
The Tories will come out of this smelling of roses if labour let them.
Tories, the new party that listens to the people.
Brexit?
That was a different government!
it will actually be a gift to labour. they will look so stupid and it will be so easy to put it all on them.
See also...
https://medium.com/@edwinhayward/how-labour-can-avoid-a-one-term-disaster-a-brexit-and-pr-roadmap-28e7836a5004
https://bsky.app/profile/mermaidspursej.bsky.social/post/3lftxzbxeos2i
They are more expensive than the Tankies, who will support Putin for free.
We should never have left the EU - the damage to our economy and quality of life has been predictably catastrophic - but beware Tories offering solutions, the reality will disappoint.
As far as I can see, her point is that the Tories had "no plan" to capitalise on Brexit.
Surely, given her previous views, rather than reversing Brexit, she would look for a plan to implement a "harder" version?
Couching it in brexit terminology is unhelpful.
i dont know why he isnt even entertaining the customs union though. our new trade deals are like 0.1% of GDP, they're literally useless
Only EU M/Ss can be & are in the EUCU (except 3 "micro-locations" inside🇪🇺:Monaco & 2 🇬🇧 military bases on 🇨🇾)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Customs_Union
🇬🇧 could be in "a" bilateral CU with 🇪🇺 like Turkey.
Brexiter numbers have dwindled, sure, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is ready to rejoin.
It will take time.
They are the minority. They will never be happy. So, why waste any more time and effort on them?
Currently the biggest obstacle next to starmer is the dogma we must suffer for yrs before even starting the process.
Polls have consistently shown support for rejoin for years
Right now starmer won't even discuss SM or CU membership. Anyone serious about rejoin needs to make him see no rejoin = no vote in 2029.
They won't call the genocide in Gaza a war crime out of fear of offending the Israeli government.
They won't denounce brexit out of fear of offending leave voters.
They enforce tory-esq policy for fear of losing power.
Stand up labour. Christ.
And, he had to say that to get votes to gain power.
Take away his platform. N
If w can't ban it, we can certainly leave it barren.
He's in the pocket of Netanyahu, for one.
and then there's this:
He just needs to like and want the bone.
Are you shitting me?
He's done more flip flops than Skechers!
https://www.politico.eu/article/all-of-keir-starmers-u-turns-in-one-place/
They're supporting genocide FFS. That isn't the anti-fascist way.
What's going on?
Mind you I don't think it was a good idea, but we're currently stuck in this weird limbo where everyone is unhappy
(Letting the unshackled Tories in again won't be forgiven in a hurry, if at all.)
What a mess.
It is 1983 in 2024/5. Labour once evolved on Europe. Perhaps this is a start for the Tories?
Combine that with Starmer's intense and intensely misplaced fear of antagonising the RW media (hint: they already are and will always remain antagonistic) and you have the perfect conditions for head-in-sandism.
I would rather say:
PR is badly needed, and will result in fragmentation that some people will lament until they see its long-term advantages.
The EU won't even consider the UK as a member (even of the SM / CU) until they are happy that the Torie aren't going to storm out again as soon as they win an election.
The WU needs to see the vast majority of Parliament & Parties reject Brexit completely.
Or would you prefer to have a referendum on every matter that comes up in parliament? In which case we don’t need MPs, just executive ministers.
Labour need to get the narrative straight and get ahead of the curve
The damage to the economy and businesses is immense
Treachery from both members of the duopoly.
Even if the LibDems said "Our policy is to begin negotiations to rejoin the EU the day we take office" enough people know that they won't take office for it to not carry them over the line.
Begs the question of why they are still members/ supporters...
Modern members seem to continually ignore that.
Nonetheless can't wait for a serious debate to start about it
"Anytime soon" again hard to argue against that
But shifts do happen suddenly (the collapse of the Soviet Union etc) especially when the underlying tectonic plates are shifting too
From this day, the pro-EU camp should start sugar coating the Euro to the English.
https://www.socialeurope.eu/britains-brexit-reality-check-why-the-majority-now-want-back-in
Though tbf if Badenoch did say trash Brexit and suggest rejoining i reckon she'd get an exodus of Eurosceptics leaving the Tories for Reform. It could well sign her own death warrant.
But, yes, the risk would be losing a lot of MPs.
On the other hand, they're in opposition anyway and Reform could wipe them out at the next election.
I mean, i'm pretty centre on Fiscals, Economy, Monetary; I love Europe.
But do i trust the Tories to steer that ship? Without corruption? And racism? Nnnnnnope.
Now that Brexit ardour is cooling rapidly, Reform can have the knuckle-draggers while the Tories pivot back towards the centre.
Red lines to stop the whole brexit thing reigniting all the while knowing that circumstances and electoral & political expediency will mean they have to be quietly dropped or fudged over the course of the Parliament.
That is something to be feared, not hoped for.
Starmer’s position on Brexit is just pathetic and will achieve nothing other than boosting support for Farage.
It's now stupidity.
She forces the Labour lot into a hole.
She gambles with the brain dead coming back to her or jumping further to the right with the NF.
Need to rejoin the SM too, of course.