👀 In Judge Hollander's order enjoining DOGE at SSA, she included this (which I believe is NOT in the complaint). legacy.www.documentcloud.org/documents/25... - ThreadSky

emptywheel.bsky.social • 1 day ago

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In Judge Hollander's order enjoining DOGE at SSA, she included this (which I believe is NOT in the complaint).

https://legacy.www.documentcloud.org/documents/25599066-250320-afscme-md/#document/p52/a2628907

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mare-p.bsky.social•1 day ago

Mic drop!

bouldervoter.bsky.social•1 day ago

Reminder. John Roberts made him immune from prosecution and he still has pardon power. It seems like he and any one of his team can crime at will. No consequence.

bentripp.bsky.social•1 day ago

I hope Big Balls spends decades in prison

compliancedivision.bsky.social•18 hours ago

About fucking time

msarielknox.bsky.social•1 day ago

Elon buying Twitter & all our data wasn't a coincidence.

I was Head of Internal Security for a group, I know damn well what they're able to do with all the data they've mined.

bentripp.bsky.social•1 day ago

I find it sort of cosmically amusing that anyone thinks he bought Twitter just to lord it up. He didn't pay that much money for the lulz. He was buying a premier data mine. And given his family background, mining is something he knows.

msarielknox.bsky.social•1 day ago

Exploitation is his full name

bluedotredwithrage.bsky.social•1 day ago

PLEASE let this be the impetus for these fuckers to finally be arrested.

zen1924.bsky.social•1 day ago

Me like that part best!

sciencefrog.bsky.social•1 day ago

Prefect

soundsense.bsky.social•1 day ago

premonitions

peachymama.bsky.social•1 day ago

I have been wondering for a while if these DOGE kids have considered their potential legal jeopardy in all this.

mshew9.bsky.social•1 day ago

They all get pardons

copelahana.bsky.social•1 day ago

This part was my favorite judicial trap

emptywheel.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yup. There's a similar paragraph (which she cites) in Bates.

I wrote up the Agency question here.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/03/19/the-significance-of-amy-gleasons-fabulous-disappearing-act/

copelahana.bsky.social•1 day ago

I had read your write up, but now read again with new appreciation given Judge Hollander’s ruling. I feel like the judiciary is making real inroads here that will be upheld on appeal.

emptywheel.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think DOJ will go about appeals sideways. They're going after Chutkan's discovery order in New Mexico via Mandamus, possibly knowing they had a Henderson, Walker, Millet panel.

donnayoungdc.bsky.social•22 hours ago

🔔DING. DING. DING. DING. DING

It is also a federal crime for any person to "request[] or obtain[] any record concerning an individual from an agency under false pretenses."

Told ya! This is why Trump admin lawyers claimed Elon Musk not in charge of DOGE - to protect him!
https://bsky.app/profile/donnayoungdc.bsky.social/post/3lik25cwql22m

citizenjenn.bsky.social•1 day ago

Judge Hollander understands that nefarious purposes are behind DOGE’s access to personal information.

metacapitalism.bsky.social•1 day ago

Could be the start of prison sentences.

wellhellno.bsky.social•1 day ago

Woo Hoo!!!!

mdgranny.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yeah but it's a good point if SCOTUS can rule a Baker doesn't have to bake cakes for gay couples when there was no gay couples asking...that whole standing thing might be a sketchy yet surmountable problem

rocketsfriends.bsky.social•1 day ago

The clap back has taken too long. Right the ship 🚢.

beefunwellington.bsky.social•1 day ago

🤔

elderlyliberal.bsky.social•1 day ago

chefmj237.bsky.social•1 day ago

Arrest musk and all his criminal doges now!

marsyd.bsky.social•1 day ago

Good. Forward thinking.

rabbir.bsky.social•1 day ago

Maybe the reporting has not been great (whoda thunk it) but there should be a raft of lawsuits against Musk and his illegitimate DOGEers for wrongfully acting under color of state law to deprive people of their rights. What’s (not) going on?!

awakeneddragon.bsky.social•1 day ago

FYI - Current/Former IT Tech folks have been screaming (hair on fire) about this for weeks. We spent our careers protecting companies vs this kind of breach. Very happy everyone else understands the 5-alarm fire now.

eightxeroxedbutts.bsky.social•1 day ago

Physical access means all bets are off :/

tamarz.bsky.social•1 day ago

Last i heard, there were well over 100 lawsuits against trump/musk.
Here's a highly respected website that's tracking these lawsuits (actually 132 at this point):
https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/

rabbir.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sure but I haven’t seen any that proceed on the basis that Musk and Trump are acting “under color of law”

bobbysteelz.bsky.social•1 day ago

I always thought it was “under cover of law”…

tamarz.bsky.social•1 day ago

I am not a lawyer but I would assume there are lots of excellent lawyers who have brought these suits and they are choosing the legal strategy most likely to bring success.

rabbir.bsky.social•1 day ago

I am a lawyer and as far as I can tell, there are so far no actions other than narrowly focused on specifics, although it’s increasingly clear that the aperture needs to be widened.
Put another way, if the KKK showed up in the 1960’s at a state capitol and purported to do this kind of takeover…

tamarz.bsky.social•1 day ago

You have the training to comment on this. I don't.
I wonder what Jamie Raskin thinks about this.

bskwitter.bsky.social•1 day ago

so, 200 million counts of a new crime! /s ANGH

roadflipper.bsky.social•1 day ago

so "empty", most of us who read about these judge's decisions never see any evidence that a judges order has actually been followed. can we ask you to help us wit that?

saneenglish.bsky.social•1 day ago

About fucking time!

hodag1977.bsky.social•1 day ago

WTF are these guys doing snooping around in these classified government databases?

pdeenz.bsky.social•15 hours ago

When are we all going to receive data breach notification letters?

emwhitley.bsky.social•1 day ago

As I read it, this excerpt, if applied correctly, would mean that the folks that took over the SSA and then gave DOGE access would be liable for the breaches, along with the actual "hackers". Not sure what to call the operators.

gchance60.bsky.social•1 day ago

A roadmap to future actions?

keyoke420.bsky.social•1 day ago

A wee bit of good news.

sjnnyc.bsky.social•1 day ago

She’s like, just in case there ever is a real Justice Dept again during the statute of limitations…

pcunited.bsky.social•1 day ago

That felt like a grappling hook connected to wire rope; somebody is going down for this. Even if they're granted a pardon, their law career and life as they knew it, is toast.

goldstarmom.bsky.social•1 day ago

Someone is paying attention.

lluck002.bsky.social•21 hours ago

So, Elon is a person (debatable) who has obtained protected data under the false pretenses of government efficiency. It couldn’t be any clearer. It doesn’t take a Lawyer or a Judge to understand that he should be in jail. A fucking toddler could deduce this! #LockHimUp

talkingsnake.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Rule of Law!

plaintanjane.bsky.social•1 day ago

Do you mean the plaintiffs did not ask for this relief?

(3) Any person who knowingly and willfully requests or obtains any record concerning an individual from an agency under false pretenses shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/552a

emwhitley.bsky.social•1 day ago

That is a Privacy Act of 1974 violation, I believe. This lawsuit is not about that.

emwhitley.bsky.social•1 day ago

I was confused. This lawsuit (#00596) IS about The Privacy Act. So sorry if I misled anybody.

cathygellis.bsky.social•1 day ago

This one isn't, but Privacy Act claims are in SDNY, somewhat against DOGE (they are named, along with OPM, but it's not exactly the claim at issue against them, although it is the defendant agency named).

emwhitley.bsky.social•1 day ago

I was wrong about that, very sorry.

emptywheel.bsky.social•1 day ago

No. This includes privacy act. It's her primary harm.

She adopted Bates' ruling that the Economy Act says you have to be an agency to share under Privacy Act.

emwhitley.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thanks for keeping me straight, I got the cases mixed up.

daskinny1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Lessee, $5,000 x 3 years x (?)00,000,000 people = 🤦

plaintanjane.bsky.social•1 day ago

Right. I’m trying to ask Marcy what she means is not included in the complaint: “In Judge Hollander's order enjoining DOGE at SSA, she included this (which I believe is NOT in the complaint).”

daskinny1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Curiosity about that as well - here is the current state of trying to view the complaint on PACER.

mangobanjo.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sua sponte!

drrxufa.bsky.social•1 day ago

FAFO imminent for criminal gang and criminal consigliere’s Bondi and Martin

kimberleelynn.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think this is the opening to sue DOGE for improperly accessing PII.

Class action suit, anyone?

mrsnimz.bsky.social•1 day ago

🙋🏽‍♀️

skippy311.bsky.social•1 day ago

🙋‍♀️

dashamarush.bsky.social•1 day ago

It's about time. I fear there is no way to enforce any laws or rules when DOJ and Roberts are complicit in breaking them.

tiredofthisshit.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Every DOGE request is under false premise that there is any reason they need it.

jaywilliams.pro•1 day ago

that's an "Attention Getter"

and hope it works

yourmaineguy1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Need enforcement

yappydagger.bsky.social•1 day ago

The kind of thing I like to see

dbnewtondoors.bsky.social•1 day ago

Reading that makes me wonder what the judge knows about what DOGE and the trump minions have done that DOGE isn't admitting.

unmitigatedgaul1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Pretty sure we all do.

norsedog.bsky.social•1 day ago

Obviously she overlooked that federal crimes aren't pursued if republicans commit them these days. /s

pho13enix.bsky.social•1 day ago

That entire criminal cabal is a false pretense

md-sullivan.bsky.social•1 day ago

Those federal crimes would have to be prosecuted by Pam Biondi's DoJ, if at all. Good luck with that!

throwingschlitz.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is there a statute of limitations?

anna0612.bsky.social•12 hours ago

The data is proprietary, protected under Federal law , and specific to each individual with whom it refers, requiring individual requests and signed approval.
However this Ruling makes it a Federal Crime to even ask for access

anna0612.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Therefore per the Judges order Doge and Elon musk are committing a Federal Crime in requesting and or accessing American Citizens private data under every department of the United States because they 2. Did not request to do so 2. Even if they did it is a Federal Crime to do so
Thanks Judge !

bemoangamble.bsky.social•1 day ago

Mmm…I would say the Judge is submitting the “deliverables” to the Government attorneys in case they’ve forgotten how not to break laws and find themselves in contempt and in violation of local BAR rules.

Bravo to the Judge!

eightxeroxedbutts.bsky.social•1 day ago

On the other hand, the game seems to be how far they can push intransigence and obstinacy.